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Trump, be a leader, not a blamer.

 
 
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sat 25 Apr, 2020 11:53 am
@coldjoint,
And even more importantly: Jews kill more Jews, whites kill more whites, Moslems kill more moslems, Christians kills more Christians, PoC kill more PoC .... than any of them kill outside their groups.

Give a rest. You hate Moslems/Islam for irrational reasons. We get it. Find new tune for Pete's sakes.

Cherry picking news stories don't prove a thing except that hate is a pretty damn universal thing.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 25 Apr, 2020 11:55 am
@bobsal u1553115,
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You hate Moslems/Islam for irrational reasons.

They are very rational reasons. Did you see the number of terrorist attacks? Did you see the people killed in the past few days? You have no idea about Islam. Do not pretend that you do.
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Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."

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Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

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Sahih Bukhari (52:177) - Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sat 25 Apr, 2020 12:07 pm
@coldjoint,
Never read the Bible very well have you?

Leviticus 18:21 ESV / 36 helpful votes
You shall not give any of your children to offer them to Molech, and so profane the name of your God: I am the Lord.

Jeremiah 48:10 ESV / 2 helpful votes
“Cursed is he who does the work of the Lord with slackness, and cursed is he who keeps back his sword from bloodshed.

Isaiah 14:21 ESV / 2 helpful votes
Prepare slaughter for his sons because of the guilt of their fathers, lest they rise and possess the earth, and fill the face of the world with cities.”

2 Chronicles 15:12-13 ESV / 2 helpful votes
And they entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and with all their soul, but that whoever would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, should be put to death, whether young or old, man or woman.

1 Samuel 15:3 ESV / 2 helpful votes
Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’”

Deuteronomy 17:12 ESV / 2 helpful votes
The man who acts presumptuously by not obeying the priest who stands to minister there before the Lord your God, or the judge, that man shall die. So you shall purge the evil from Israel.

Deuteronomy 13:13-18 ESV / 2 helpful votes
That certain worthless fellows have gone out among you and have drawn away the inhabitants of their city, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods,’ which you have not known, then you shall inquire and make search and ask diligently. And behold, if it be true and certain that such an abomination has been done among you, you shall surely put the inhabitants of that city to the sword, devoting it to destruction, all who are in it and its cattle, with the edge of the sword. You shall gather all its spoil into the midst of its open square and burn the city and all its spoil with fire, as a whole burnt offering to the Lord your God. It shall be a heap forever. It shall not be built again. None of the devoted things shall stick to your hand, that the Lord may turn from the fierceness of his anger and show you mercy and have compassion on you and multiply you, as he swore to your fathers, ...

Deuteronomy 13:7-12 ESV / 2 helpful votes
Some of the gods of the peoples who are around you, whether near you or far off from you, from the one end of the earth to the other, you shall not yield to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him, nor shall you conceal him. But you shall kill him. Your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterward the hand of all the people. You shall stone him to death with stones, because he sought to draw you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. And all Israel shall hear and fear and never again do any such wickedness as this among you. ...

Leviticus 20:10 ESV / 2 helpful votes
“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

Deuteronomy 12:29-31 ESV / 134
"When the Lord your God cuts off before you the nations whom you go in to dispossess, and you dispossess them and dwell in their land, take care that you be not ensnared to follow them, after they have been destroyed before you, and that you do not inquire about their gods, saying, 'How did ...



1 Samuel 15:3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

NUMBERS 21:3 The Lord gave the Canaanites over to Israel, who "completely destroyed them and their towns."

NUMBERS 31:17-18 God commanded Moses to kill all of the male Midianite children and "kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man." The virgins were presumably raped.

Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)

2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, “You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord.” When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through. (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)

1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sat 25 Apr, 2020 12:31 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Let alone the fact that Christ (Issa) is mentioned quit a lot in the Koran and is highly respect prophet, Mary (Mariam) is extremely respected becayuse of her sanctity in the virgin birth pf Issa, one of the very few women discussed in the Koran, and in fact her portrait was kept on the alter in the Kaaba, and you know how Islam is about portraits.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 25 Apr, 2020 01:21 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
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Never read the Bible very well have you?

This not about the Bible.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 25 Apr, 2020 01:32 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
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Let alone the fact that Christ (Issa) is mentioned quit a lot in the Koran

So what? It also says he is not the son of God and did not die on the cross or was resurrected. In fact the Koran has Mary living at the same time as Alexander the Great. Lying about Jesus is not respect, it is lying.

None of that changes the fact the religion teaches hate for anything not Islamic. It condones rape and says it is a weapon to be used in war. It says parents can murder their children without retaliation.

You are versed in apologies not facts.

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Ishaq:587 “Our onslaught will not be a weak faltering affair. We shall fight as long as we live.We will fight until you turn to Islam, humbly seeking refuge. We will fight not caring whom we meet. We will fight whether we destroy ancient holdings or newly gotten gains. We have mutilated every opponent. We have driven them violently before us at the command of Allah and Islam. We will fight until our religion is established. And we will plunder them,for they must suffer disgrace.”


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coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 25 Apr, 2020 01:57 pm
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Muslim:C40B20N4676“Jihad Is Compulsory.”


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Qur’an 8:12“I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle.”

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Bukhari:V9B87N127 “The Prophet said, ‘I have been given the keys of eloquent speech and given victory with terror.’”

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Bukhari:V5B59N512“The Prophet had their men killed, their children and woman taken captive.
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goldberg
 
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Reply Sat 25 Apr, 2020 09:08 pm
@glitterbag,
Trump's non compos mentis. He doesn't know anything about state-building; he simply uses his power to line his own pockets or even help his family members rake it in. Case in point: for all Trump's bluster and repeated threats to curtail Chinese companies' investments in America, his daughter Ivanka Trump's own business ties in China are still cloaked in secrecy even she claimed that she had closed down fashion and accessories brand. The fact is Ivanka has continued to win trademarks in China-that is to say, she still has a chance to make a bundle with sales from wedding dresses, sunglasses, and child-care products in China.

That's why it's well-neigh impossible for Trump to act like a cerebral leader. He's just another Shylock described by Shakespeare in "The Merchant of Venice." Worst yet, Trump's perfunctory approach in dealing with Covid-19 only reinforces the perception that a bon vivant like him doesn't care about thin cats; he merely expresses concern when he needs their votes just like most politicians.

Michael Jackson wrote a song called " They Don't Care About Us" back to the 90s, in which he lacerates nobs or the powers that be for not paying heed to the needs of the poor. There is no denying that well-to-do folk like Trump still don't care about us, which reminds me of some harsh words uttered by an ancient Chinese intellectual. He argued that rich people simply live in a world steeped in the thinking that a well-off man only wants to socialize with other high earners while heaping scorn on people who are still skint, including his own cash-strapped relatives.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 25 Apr, 2020 09:23 pm
@goldberg,
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his daughter Ivanka Trump's own business ties in China are still cloaked in secrecy even she claimed that she had closed down fashion and accessories brand. The fact is Ivanka has continued to win trademarks in China-that is to say, she still has a chance to make a bundle with sales from wedding dresses, sunglasses, and child-care products in China.

Now prove it.
goldberg
 
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Reply Sat 25 Apr, 2020 09:38 pm
@coldjoint,
You could visit Chinese websites if you want to find out more about Ivanka Trump's business dealings in China. She even cajoled her own daughter into studying Chinese in a bid to please Chinese functionaries, using it to cement business ties with Chinese business people.
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Sat 25 Apr, 2020 09:39 pm
@coldjoint,
Ivanka Trump wins 16 Chinese trademarks despite shutting down her business

Benjamin Goggin Nov 5, 2018, 8:18 PM

Ivanka Trump's brand won a slew of new Chinese trademarks in October despite its doors being closed in July.

The trademarks were filed for everything from umbrellas to sausages.
Critics warn that the trademarks raise questions of continued conflicts of interest.

Ivanka Trump, President Donald Trump's daughter and senior adviser, won initial approval for 16 Chinese trademarks despite the company shutting its doors in July, according to records released by Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington.

The trademarks are the largest grouping approved in a single month for the brand since Trump's election, and raise questions surrounding continued conflicts of interest for one of Trump's senior advisers.

The applications for the trademarks, which pertain to everything from bags to umbrellas to sausages, were filed in May 2016, but were notably not withdrawn when Ivanka's business was shuttered.

In July, Ivanka closed down her business, saying "my focus for the foreseeable future will be the work I am doing here in Washington."

"I do not know when or if I will ever return to the business,” she said.

But according to an unnamed source from a July report in The Washington Post, the president's daughter planned to continue to seek trademarks, even after her company shut down.

Shut down, but not shut out

Ivanka's brand received intense scrutiny after Trump's election. Her products were almost exclusively made overseas despite her and her fathers championing of local labor, and the brand was dropped from retailers like Marshall's, Nordstrom, and TJ Maxx. Those developments were prompted in part by public animus toward her father. By June 2018, sales had dropped nearly 45%, according to a Wall Street Journal report.

In May, Ivanka's brand received approval for seven trademarks. The same month, Trump announced that he had reached a deal with China to lift the US ban on telecom giant ZTE. The timing of that news raised some eyebrows as well.

Noah Bookbinder, executive director of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, told Business Insider in May that "It raises significant questions about corruption, as it invites the possibility that she could be benefiting financially from her position and her father's presidency or that she could be influenced in her policy work by countries' treatment of her business."

When Ivanka announced her brand's closure in July, it was speculated that certain ethics conundrums stemming from the business would be sealed.

But according to Caroline Zhang, social media manager at Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, these new approvals revive previous concerns of conflicts of interest: "Since she has retained her foreign trademarks, the public will continue to have to ask whether Trump has made foreign policy decisions in the interest of his and his family’s businesses."

Previously, officials from Ivanka's company have claimed that her international trademarks were measures to prevent foreign entities from capitalizing on her name.

When reached for comment, Peter Mirijanian, spokesperson for Ivanka's ethics attorney Abbe Lowell, took a similar stance: "These trademarks were sought to broadly protect Ms. Trump’s name, and to prevent others from stealing her name and using it to sell their products. This is a common trademark practice, which is why the trademark applications were granted.”

Whether or not Ivanka's plans go beyond simple protection isn't yet clear.

This post was updated at 12:16 PM on November 6, 2018 with a statement from Ivanka Trump's attorney.

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goldberg
 
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Reply Sat 25 Apr, 2020 09:40 pm
@coldjoint,
Do you want to study Chinese just like her daughter?
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 25 Apr, 2020 09:41 pm
@goldberg,
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You could visit Chinese websites

No. You could. You are the one claiming it is true, not me.
goldberg
 
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Reply Sat 25 Apr, 2020 09:42 pm
@coldjoint,
Just Google it. You can find related news on American websites as well.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 25 Apr, 2020 09:43 pm
@goldberg,
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Do you want to study Chinese just like her daughter?

Do you want to try and bullshit someone else?
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 25 Apr, 2020 09:44 pm
@goldberg,
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Just Google it.

If you are too lazy, or too dishonest, to source your posts do not expect my help.
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Sat 25 Apr, 2020 09:45 pm
I'm not sure what's the better advertising model:

Ivanka's Tried And True Sausages: Never Fails To Satisfy!

Or

Trump's Sausage: Get your Orange Big One Now!
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goldberg
 
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Reply Sat 25 Apr, 2020 09:45 pm
@coldjoint,
Negative. I'm not the surly Trump who gets kicks out of mauling people as is his wont. I'm not that old like Trump or you.
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goldberg
 
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Reply Sat 25 Apr, 2020 09:49 pm
@coldjoint,
The Chinese would use the word tofu-brained to describe a fogy like you.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 25 Apr, 2020 09:57 pm
@goldberg,
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The Chinese would use the word tofu-brained to describe a fogy like you.

So you are not going to source your claims. But calling me a name will somehow prove your bullshit. Nope. Laughing Laughing Laughing
 

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