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Coronavirus

 
 
Mame
 
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Mon 23 Jan, 2023 06:17 pm
@Builder,
We had similar lockdowns but a little easier than yours. We weren't banned to go anywhere (nothing was open anyway Mar 2020 to end of June-is 2020, and again from Dec 2020 to Feb 2021), we were encouraged to get out walking and cycling, and we were able to be in a cohort of 6. But once they opened up, we needed to wear masks and restaurants etc opened to limited capacity. No singing was initially allowed, then they could behind plexiglass. Once people got their two vaccinations, they had to show proof.

The fear-mongering that went on was crazy. Every province held a news conference every morning with data, warnings, and measures. That must have gone on for over a year. I stopped watching. 2021 was the worst here.

There were protests galore, especially within the church communities in rural areas. One pastor was fined and then arrested. The farther you went out of the city (say to a bar), the more infractions occurred. This province is considered Texas north.

Crazy times, eh? Some people lived in their pj's, some despaired, some cut their own hair Smile I worked in the library and we had to spray books, put them in plastic bags, and put them on a table outside for pick up. Then we had to wipe down the phones every time we used them.

Shoppers would shout at each other if someone wasn't following the arrows on the floor (going the wrong way) or someone stood less than 6 feet from them, even though everyone was facing the same way.

People wore masks in their cars and back yards even when they were alone.

Alberta residents who visited vacation property in BC reported being yelled at in their cars for travelling out of province and some had vandalism done.

But the saddest result was friendships and family being torn apart. A friend of mine who didn't get jabbed lost a few friends and now has a very strained relationship with her sister. Five out of our six in the cohort got vaccinated; she was the outlier. Two of the others had issues with it.

Protests against mandatory vaccinations have always happened. I was actually surprised about that when I did a bit of research on it as to how far back it occurred.

I think the authorities' main concerns were overwhelming hospitals, beleaguered health care workers, the extreme number of deaths, and the shambles the whole health care system is in.
Builder
 
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Mon 23 Jan, 2023 06:44 pm
@Mame,
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I think the authorities' main concerns were overwhelming hospitals, beleaguered health care workers, the extreme number of deaths, and the shambles the whole health care system is in.


The irony being, that's the situation they're in now that the pandemic has been declared over.

On the daily "news" conference, we had them here, too, the boffins would drive into the city centre, mingle with strangers (camera crew, various "celebrities" and sporting types), to tell us to stay home. Unless we had the sniffles or a scratchy throat. Then their advice was to line up in the thousands with strangers, to get tested.

I was in the "essential" workers list, and my regular visits to the commercial and industrial zones, to purchase materials, showed no actual difference in the status quo, except for the occasional driver who was wearing a mask.

Business as usual.
Mame
 
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Mon 23 Jan, 2023 06:49 pm
@Builder,
It was bad before the pandemic and now that the pandemic is 'over', it's still a shambles. They are really under-funded. There was a complaint in the Letters section about mice running around, dirty floors, etc. Who wants to go in for an operation? A friend of mine had her appendix out and wound up getting a respiratory infection - she was on oxygen for 2.5 weeks.
Builder
 
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Mon 23 Jan, 2023 07:18 pm
@Mame,
Many health professionals refused to be coerced here, with the odd situation that public servants couldn't be mandated, but health workers in the public sector had to be.

That led to major staff shortages, and lengthening of the waiting lists for elective surgery.

Emergency departments, already under pressure, and now filled to capacity with ambulance cases, in what they call "ramping". Until a patient is signed in, they remain the responsibility of the ambulance teams, effectively taking them off the streets, and their usual duties.

The AMA ( our Australian Medical Association) has taken over the Medicare fraud detection unit (my sister worked for them in establishing the data base) and while she still has a role, she hands over the findings to the AMA, which now suspends the offending doctor or clinic from "bulk billing" directly. That means most people who can't afford to pay up front for a doctor's appointment, have to go to the ER at a public hospital, and wait their turn.

Can't help thinking this isn't just coincidental.
Mame
 
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Mon 23 Jan, 2023 07:31 pm
@Builder,
Builder wrote:

Emergency departments, already under pressure, and now filled to capacity with ambulance cases, in what they call "ramping". Until a patient is signed in, they remain the responsibility of the ambulance teams, effectively taking them off the streets, and their usual duties.


We have the same situation - don't know why they can't sign off to a nurse or nurse practitioner.

One thing which would help ease the backlog and delays is allowing immigrant doctors and nurses to do some of these things. There's no reason why a foreign professional can't write an exam and then be qualified to work in the system. I believe in this province once they've reviewed and approved their education, they work with another doctor for a year or so and then take the exam. And kids with a fever and runny nose (and other minor ailments) can be seen by a nurse practitioner.
jespah
 
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Mon 23 Jan, 2023 08:15 pm
@Mame,
I think one big thing the pandemic has done is reveal to anyone who wasn't sure that in a lot of countries the healthcare system is a shambles.
Builder
 
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Tue 24 Jan, 2023 01:19 am
@Mame,
Quote:
One thing which would help ease the backlog and delays is allowing immigrant doctors and nurses to do some of these things.


Australia's AMA actually created a doctor shortage (they tell the govt how many training places to allot for new doctors) to allow them to increase the cost of a doctor visit.

This also made it basically essential to "import" doctors from nearby nations, mostly Pakistan, Sri Lanka, and India.

According to my sister, who worked for the medicare fraud team, these imported doctors are highly represented in the cases she presents to the AMA as being fraudulent.
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Builder
 
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Tue 24 Jan, 2023 03:59 am
@jespah,
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I think one big thing the pandemic has done is reveal to anyone who wasn't sure that in a lot of countries the healthcare system is a shambles.


You forgot to include; completely usurped by corporate criminals in the pharmaceutical lobby.
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izzythepush
 
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Tue 24 Jan, 2023 05:04 am
Glenn's motivation for spreading disinformation about the vaccine, and for his obsession with guns.

Quote:
I wanted to be a conservation officer because I hated people and wanted to be as far from them as possible. I mean, haven't you ever noticed how damn near all of your problems stem from either the actions or the word of others? It's not a coincidence.


https://able2know.org/topic/55093-1358#post-7299199

hightor
 
  3  
Tue 24 Jan, 2023 05:30 am
@jespah,
Our supply chains were revealed to be pretty fragile as well.
Glennn
 
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Tue 24 Jan, 2023 10:21 am
@izzythepush,
Had to go to a thread where I joke around to find something you might be able to make a point about, didn't ya? Weak!

I'm guessing that trying to get you to answer relevant questions is going to be about as successful as it's always been, but let's give it another go.

When I tell you that the test doesn't tell you what you need to know, do you consider that to be disinformation? If so, why?

And when I tell you that the experimental injection doesn't prevent infection or transmission, do you consider that to be disinformation? If so, why?

When I tell you that tony lied when he said the experimental injection is a roadblock to the virus, do you consider that to be disinformation? If not, why not?

Are ya up to it?
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Builder
 
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Tue 24 Jan, 2023 04:22 pm
@hightor,
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Our supply chains were revealed to be pretty fragile as well.


According to some sources, 20% of their truck drivers have quit over mandates for the injections.

Logistics in general have slowed considerably, and while fuel prices remain high (no rationale for that has been offered) the food supply chain has remained adequate.

Massive flooding in the Kimberley region will likely have more of an affect on the mining and live cattle export industries, than on food supply. Hundreds of kilometres of hiway have been destroyed, and due to a shortage of workers in many industries, there's no indication that the roads and bridges can be repaired any time soon.

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Wilso
 
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Wed 25 Jan, 2023 01:27 am
Every time I see a story about an anti-vax covid denier dying, I have a little chuckle. Darwinism at work.
Builder
 
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Wed 25 Jan, 2023 02:05 am
@Wilso,
You might want to point out one of those stories, or maybe, ya know, link to one of them, for the audience to share your candor and malice?

We're only seeing cases they label SADS, because even an autopsy can't fathom what killed them, and they're all fully tanked up with the boosters and all.
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izzythepush
 
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Wed 25 Jan, 2023 02:24 am
@Wilso,
That's some DNA the human race could do without.
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Builder
 
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Wed 25 Jan, 2023 02:33 am
@Wilso,
You know, articles from reputable sources like this...

DOCTORS in Australia are developing the country’s first SADS registry after recent incidents of healthy young people dying from Sudden Adult Death Syndrome.

Sudden Adult Death Syndrome, or Sudden Arrhythmic Death Syndrome (SADS), is an “umbrella term to describe unexpected deaths in young people” and this ‘mysterious’ syndrome is said to have left doctors in Australia searching for more answers.

This has led doctors at Melbourne’s Baker Heart and Diabetes Institute to create the country’s first SADS registry which they hope to roll out across the country in order to gain more information about this sudden death phenomenon.

“In our registry, there are approximately 750 cases per year of people aged under 50 in Victoria suddenly having their heart stop (a cardiac arrest),” a spokeswoman said.

“Of these, approximately 100 young people per year will have no cause found even after extensive investigations such as a full autopsy (the SADS phenomenon).”

According to the Royal Australian College of General Practitioners (RACGP), SADS usually occurs in healthy adults under 40 and the term is used when a post-mortem can find no obvious cause of death.
Mame
 
  1  
Wed 25 Jan, 2023 08:22 am
@Builder,
Good luck to them. Doctors have been studying SIDS for decades and still have no clue.
Builder
 
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Wed 25 Jan, 2023 06:38 pm
@Mame,
Yes, but in the case of SADS, the sudden increase in deaths, particularly in young, fit, healthy males, is in the last two/three years.

German studies show the correlation between SADS and the "rollout" of C19 injections.


Exhaustive study of German mortality data finds excess deaths tightly correlated with mass vaccination

Excess mortality in Germany 2020–2022 is a preprint by Christof Kuhbandner (a psychologist at Regensburg) and Matthias Reitzner (a statistician at Osnabrück) that applies sophisticated actuarial analysis to the publicly available all-cause mortality data provided by the German government.
It turns out that when you account for historical mortality trends, the virus no longer looks so dangerous, and the vaccines no longer look so great.
Mame
 
  1  
Wed 25 Jan, 2023 06:42 pm
@Builder,
Just saying, doctors don't know everything.
Builder
 
  -2  
Wed 25 Jan, 2023 07:28 pm
@Mame,
The study I linked to was done by a statistician and a psychologist, based on data released by the German government on excess deaths.

Doctors in Australia were forbidden to share their observations, under threat of losing their registration as doctors.

So much for trusting the science, eh?
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