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Do Warner Bros. and Disney still dominate the TV toon market like they did in the late 20th century?

 
 
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jun, 2020 12:45 pm
@Rebelofnj,
I'm not a fan of Game Of Thrones. It's basically a pornographic Lord Of The Rings. I saw a few minutes of an episode of GOT on TV when I had HBO. I was offended by what I saw and I quickly changed channels.
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jun, 2020 12:47 pm
@Rebelofnj,
I wonder if anyone ever catalogued all the cartoon shorts Walter Lantz produced for Universal.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jun, 2020 12:51 pm
@JGoldman10,
The first season was more graphic than subsequent ones.

I don’t think it needed as much sex, but that got a lot of randy bastards watching.

I think nudity gets more people tuning in that turning off.

My problem with Game of Thrones is the last season.

How are you? Are you coping alright during the lockdown? Are you getting enough to eat?

Any joy getting that cheque cashed?

You take care.
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jun, 2020 12:58 pm
@izzythepush,
I didn't want to see a nude woman in the few minutes or few seconds of that episode of GOT I briefly watched. I was channel surfing and I stumbled upon GOT. I didn't want to see that mess.

Nudity in a TV show is not necessary.

My family got rid of a lot of the smut channels we had with the cable/satellite TV service we had at the time.
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JGoldman10
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jun, 2020 01:10 pm
@izzythepush,
I'm still working towards getting myself and my mother situated with Social Security. After that's done I can deal with employment like a normal person.

I had my new physician fax a note to my S.S. case worker stating I'm capable of becoming my own S.S. payee. I retained a copy for my records.

I haven't worked on getting my stimulus check cashed as of yet.

Yes I've been acquiring food. I've been working on making it last.

At times I've felt maddened by the whole situation regarding Covid-19 but I'm not letting it get me down.
Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jun, 2020 01:34 pm
@JGoldman10,
I didn't say anything about Game of Thrones. I never saw the series, nor have I read the books it's based on.

I am not suggesting at all to watch Game of Thrones.

I only mentioned the very kid-friendly crossover with Sesame Street. No profanity, no nudity.


The article I linked only said that Looney Tunes is the most popular likely due to Game of Thrones' decline in quality in recent years and its polarizing final episodes.
Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jun, 2020 08:28 pm
@JGoldman10,
They will likely appear in the new Peacock streaming service next month.

Woody Woodpecker is specifically mentioned when NBCUniversal talked about kids programming.
https://www.cnet.com/news/nbc-peacock-streaming-prices-devices-us-launch-dates-shows-movies-originals/
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 9 Jun, 2020 12:03 am
@JGoldman10,
Good, take care.
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Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Tue 9 Jun, 2020 01:37 pm
@JGoldman10,
So, Peacock is available now for Comcast X1 customers, like me, as a special preview before the official July launch.

Going through the catalogue, it looks like only the 1999 Woody Woodpecker show is available and not the original Lantz shorts

It seems that there are barely any cartoons on Peacock that is made before 1970. Even the Felix The Cat cartoons available are from the 90s Twisted Tales of Felix the Cat series.
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Tue 9 Jun, 2020 04:40 pm
@Rebelofnj,
Okay.
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JGoldman10
 
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Reply Tue 9 Jun, 2020 04:43 pm
I would like to look at some old cartoons to get ideas for my own stuff. See how cartoons were put together and such. I've been out of art school since the late '90s - I have time to focus on working towards getting some toons and comics developed. I can do that now that my brother is not around.

My only issue right now, after I get done dealing with all the personal business I have to deal with, is getting the training I want and need to learn how to voice act professionally and to produce comics professionally in light of what is going on in the world regarding the Covid-19 crisis.

I would like to be able to take courses to get such training in person but I don't know if that's doable at this point in time. I hope I can get this training done online but I don't know how that is going to work.

I presume you'd have to have a webcam in order to interact with instructors for online courses but I don't have one of those.

My focus right now is getting myself and my mother squared away with Social Security and getting my stimulus check cashed.

Then I can deal with employment.

I have to have money for these courses.

Am I jealous of indie animation and comics people who have their work showcased online, and have monetized it and had success with it?

No.

I'm focusing on me.
Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Tue 9 Jun, 2020 04:59 pm
@JGoldman10,
Then subscribe to Boomerang (which has a more complete collection of classic cartoons than HBO MAX) or Disney Plus (which includes nearly all of their Goldern Era cartoons).

JGoldman10
 
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Reply Tue 9 Jun, 2020 05:07 pm
@Rebelofnj,
I can handle mature stuff. I was saying I don't like Game Of Thrones.
Forgive me for assuming you were a fan.

I think there are a lot of far worse things on cable/satellite TV than Game of Thrones.
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JGoldman10
 
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Reply Tue 9 Jun, 2020 05:11 pm
@Rebelofnj,
I could go to WbKids.com - they have an extensive catalogue of Looney Tunes cartoons, old and new.

I'm interested in looking at the classic Woody Woodpecker cartoons and the other cartoons Walter Lantz worked on.
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Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Tue 9 Jun, 2020 05:24 pm
@JGoldman10,
Don't you already have several textbooks on animation and how-to guides, not to mention the books I sent you via email?

As you mentioned, WB Kids have several cartoons on YouTube, as well as the streaming services available that have classic cartoons.

I learned a lot about animation through Disney Animated films' special features on Disney Plus. There is even a documentary about Disney's famed 9 Old Men: the expert animators who were responsible for Disney's Golden, Silver, and Bronze era films, and teaching the animators who worked on the Renaissance and Modern Era films.
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Tue 9 Jun, 2020 05:44 pm
@Rebelofnj,
No, I have two Walter Foster books on producing animation and a few books on animation history. I have one book on the making of Space Jam, some fanboy books about cartoons and a few books about producing comics that I bought a long time ago. I think I have other books about animation and comics but I'm not sure, I have to look. It's been a long time since I consulted any of these books. I'm not interested in looking at feature animation unless there are certain scenes from animated and/or live-action/animated films I want to study.

I have a list of books that a comic book/strip creativity instructor suggested I buy when I took his course at a local art school a number of years ago. I have to find that list.

I think looking at cartoon shorts and episodes from certain cartoon shows is sufficient.
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Tue 9 Jun, 2020 05:51 pm
@Rebelofnj,
As I said I'm still interested in learning how to voice act professionally. I've seen some videos on YouTube in which veteran pro voice actors have talked about their experience voice acting professionally and they've given some pointers on how to do this.

I would still like to get training to learn how to do this professionally.

Right now I need to get my stimulus check cashed and deal with personal expenses.

I want to use part of my check to pay my mother's Spectrum bill off. We no longer have Spectrum service since Spectrum's charter equipment was returned to them but the bill still needs to be paid.

After that's done the internet service on my laptop will be reinstated.

Then I can get the ink I need for my inkjet printer.

I've been forced to use my smartphone for the past couple of months. I've been forced to live with certain restrictions, due in part to the Covid-19 crisis going on.
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Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Tue 9 Jun, 2020 06:11 pm
@JGoldman10,
It shouldn't be too difficult to use the information found in those books and apply them to the production of cartoon shorts.

Plot structure is different between films and shorts, but both still use similar animation techniques.
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Tue 9 Jun, 2020 06:18 pm
@Rebelofnj,
Nothing in the resources I have cover anything about how to do voice acting professionally.
Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Tue 9 Jun, 2020 06:29 pm
@JGoldman10,
For some films, Disney Plus does have special features about the voice actors working on the animated films. Not exactly "how to do voice acting" guides, though.

The Beauty and the Beast Blu-Ray has a 6 minute special about working with the voice actors and how their actions while recording influenced the design of the characters.
 

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