George Galloway blasts the Senate

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and has she ever been romantically linked with George Galloway?

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Actually, Miss Winfrey has shown far more integrity as regards her private life than most figures in the public eye. She displays a dignity uncommon in those who pursue her profession, and rather than seeking the lowest common denominator, she seeks to "elevate" her audience. She sometimes seems to me to be rather stilted, but it would be difficult to be "genuine" on cue five days a week, throughout the year. She has a book club which promotes the reading of new fiction, and when i've come across her recommendations, they are often quite good. There are few people in her profession whom i admire, and i don't respect the most of them. I do respect her, even if i don't have much interest in watching her program.

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cicerone imposter wrote:

McT and Steve, We're not talking about Europe; we're talking about how much influence Oprah has in the US. My god, don't you people listen?

Ehem, Oprah arrived at Hermes, vouchsafed she was a stellar personage, waited to be waited upon. Staff said, who is that short dusky woman, star she evidently is not. Please let her know that she should remove herself from outside our important window, now closed, or we shall summon the gendarmerie. This happened in Paris, France.

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You see, that doesn't matter that it happened in kenbucktu. Oprah made her case to the American People - not the French or English or any European for that matter. Oprah has "influence in the US." That's what matters.

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and did she ever blast the senate, or even dare i ask a senator?

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cicerone imposter wrote:

You see, that doesn't matter that it happened in kenbucktu. Oprah made her case to the American People - not the French or English or any European for that matter. Oprah has "influence in the US." That's what matters.

Before Steve manages to bring this thread back on-topic, we seem to be at crossed purposes here, c.i.

You have not acknowledged my point, which is that Oprah seems to have said that she was not treated the way white stars would have been, and I am saying, perhaps this is because in Paris, she could go unrecognised by francophone shop assistants. That is why the location is relevant (to me).

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I rather suspect not. On those occassions (someone's waiting room, airport, etc.) when i've seen any portion of her program, it seems to be all about "self-help" topics and positive messages. I had not ever seen her work in television news, but since she has become a syndicated commodity, i suspect that she has never "gone gunning for" any members of Congress.

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McT, We are at cross-purposes. I'm not here to argue whether Oprah is right or wrong. I'm just saying she has great influence here in the US. It will be up to the American People to decide how they react to Oprah's claim. Whether right or wrong, I believe Hermes' sales will suffer.

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Oprah can sell books, of that there is ample proof. In Britain though, more books are bought than are read...maybe the US is similar in that regard.

I am doubtful if many of Oprah's target audience shop in that store.

I don't think it should hurt the Hermes brand too much...and it may have the opposite effect, for very un-PC reasons.

I'm sure George Galloway has a Hermes silk tie (necktie) or six, btw.

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" George Galloway has a Hermes silk tie"

Thank God...for a moment (actually several pages) thought we were straying off subject Smile

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McT, Mine is only an "opinion" about Hermes' sales dropping.

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Boycotting Hermes eh? However will she manage?

I suppose she'll have to make do with Gucci, like the rest of us.

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McTag wrote:

I'm sure George Galloway has a Hermes silk tie (necktie) or six, btw.

Thank God we have finally cleared up where all that oil for food money went. Neckties from Hermes. I did see they were $145 US on their website. He must have bought several based on his profits.

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Lord Ellpus wrote:

Boycotting Hermes eh? However will she manage?

I suppose she'll have to make do with Gucci, like the rest of us.

M'lord, I never figured you to be one to go slumming at Gucci.

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I'm not a consumer of those hytone products, so it doesn't bother me none. I'll stick with my Levis and Rockport; they're made pretty good for the price.

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My apologies, C.I. It seems you've taken many of the stings and arrows which should have been flung my way as it was I who introduced the off-topic of Oprah/Hermes.

For some reason I thought the whole Galloway hullaballo had dissipated in Steve's hiatus ... it seemed to have digressed to polls, perceptions, and gay fish if I recall.

I believe the pertinent question asked was why Americans should care about European opinions about us when the French have elevated arrogance to a national art form ... and hence the Hermes report.

Personally, I believe an American business that displayed such racial insensitivity would have been pilloried. And there are racial issues, if anyone bothered reading the short blurb on this obscure American television type:

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Oprah-Winfrey-Stopped-to-Shop-From-Hermes-Store-On-Racial-Reasons-3553.shtml

The issue really was never whether Hermes' sales would be affected by the incident. It was about the continued reinforcement of the French image as difficult and arrogant & their overall indifference (even pride?) toward that American perception.

Yet Americans should be losing sleep over whether or not Europeans like us?

Back to the topic ... George Galloway! What a maverick! He sure showed those self-righteous Americans, didn't he?!

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Whooda - with respect, if Oprah's "do you know WHO I AM???" approach didn't work in France after closing hours of a shop already preparing for an after-hours PR event, then it shouldn't have.

For the record: I personally have never been a member of the "21" Club in New York, the Petroleum Club in Dallas, or any number of such establishments from San Francisco to Mobile, Alabama, to Geneva, Switzerland, to Hong Kong and points east - and yet whenever I showed up (with any number of guests) I was freely admitted and given a table without any question. Time and time again while giving my coat to the attendant I happened to notice perfectly respectable-looking black people entering the vestibule, being promptly told "Very sorry, this is a private club" and having to leave.

Sad it may be, but we'd be hypocrites in criticizing the French on that particular subject. Sorry, and as prefaced, with respect Smile

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Whooda, No apologies necessary. I think it was a matter of some misunderstanding. I just made the comment that Oprah was very influential in the US, and it was my opinion, rightly or wrongly, she had the influence to affect sales at Hermes stores. I could be wrong. I have not made any judgements about the incident about why Oprah may have felt snubbed.

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HofT wrote:

Whooda - with respect, if Oprah's "do you know WHO I AM???" approach didn't work in France after closing hours of a shop already preparing for an after-hours PR event, then it shouldn't have.

For the record: I personally have never been a member of the "21" Club in New York, the Petroleum Club in Dallas, or any number of such establishments from San Francisco to Mobile, Alabama, to Geneva, Switzerland, to Hong Kong and points east - and yet whenever I showed up (with any number of guests) I was freely admitted and given a table without any question. Time and time again while giving my coat to the attendant I happened to notice perfectly respectable-looking black people entering the vestibule, being promptly told "Very sorry, this is a private club" and having to leave.

Sad it may be, but we'd be hypocrites in criticizing the French on that particular subject. Sorry, and as prefaced, with respect

I can't find the clapping emoticon but you deserve a ton of 'em, no tons of 'em for your refreshing honesty, HofT. [Deep bow] Very Happy

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HofT wrote:

Whooda - with respect, if Oprah's "do you know WHO I AM???" approach didn't work in France after closing hours of a shop already preparing for an after-hours PR event, then it shouldn't have.

For the record: I personally have never been a member of the "21" Club in New York, the Petroleum Club in Dallas, or any number of such establishments from San Francisco to Mobile, Alabama, to Geneva, Switzerland, to Hong Kong and points east - and yet whenever I showed up (with any number of guests) I was freely admitted and given a table without any question. Time and time again while giving my coat to the attendant I happened to notice perfectly respectable-looking black people entering the vestibule, being promptly told "Very sorry, this is a private club" and having to leave.

Sad it may be, but we'd be hypocrites in criticizing the French on that particular subject. Sorry, and as prefaced, with respect

Helen: I understand your point, and as I stated earlier, at a certain level I enjoyed the rebuff to O's do-you-know-who-I-am approach, but I also found Hermes' nonchalant "North African problem" clarification totally unacceptable. I am well aware racism exists at different levels (white to black, black to white, black to hispanic, pick any color really) in this country and elsewhere. It's simply not acceptable any place, any time.

I'm guessing, though, that O will not let this issue die quietly as she has already indicated she will discuss it in her upcoming season. If so, it will generate even more illwill toward France and, IMO, the French should simply yawn ... just as every American should each time another national popularity poll gets released (my original point - why should we care?)

Maybe we'll eventually find an a2k thread entitled "Oprah Winfrey Blasts the French."

Until then, I suppose we're stuck with Galloway.

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