Can Souls in Hell be Forgiven and Saved and Go to Heaven?

@Leadfoot,

You, then, don't understand the primary premise of christianity.

@Leadfoot,

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That could be true, but not a universal truth. The bible never recommends being a member of the majority

And what does the Bible recommend we do if we were born into a country where the Bible is not the accepted religious text?

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@Glennn,

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And what does the Bible recommend we do if we were born into a country where the Bible is not the accepted religious text?

According to the book, there were only two requirement for a 'passing grade' :

1. Love God first. (seems reasonable since according to the book he is completely responsible for your very existence)

2. Love others as you love yourself.

JC said all the requirements were fulfilled in these. Nothing said about reading some specific book.

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@Leadfoot,

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JC said all the requirements were fulfilled in these. Nothing said about reading some specific book.

And yet even that is something you learned from the book.

So, you're saying that as long as I treat my neighbor as I would want to be treated, I'm going to make the grade? And is it okay if I love Allah first?

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@Glennn,

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And yet even that is something you learned from the book.

Actually I didn't learn that from the book. I think those two things are natural conclusions anyone could reach by merely observing their own existence.

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So, you're saying that as long as I treat my neighbor as I would want to be treated, I'm going to make the grade? And is it okay if I love Allah first?

Yes, that's what I'm saying. It don't think it matters what name you call God as long as you recognize the reality of owing your existence to him and show the same respect to others as you grant yourself.

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@Leadfoot,

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as long as you recognize the reality of owing your existence to him

It needs me to thank it for my existence? This is another example of the god's insecurity.

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@Leadfoot,

I always thought I owed my existence to my parents.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

You, then, don't understand the primary premise of christianity.

Then, what is the primary purpose of christianity, in your opinion?

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@neologist,

To convert heathens to christianity, a man-made religion that uses the carrot snd the stick. Have you ever visited the Vatican? With so many poor people starving, why such a grand building? Just the cost of upkeep must be enormous~!

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@cicerone imposter,

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I always thought I owed my existence to my parents.

If the reality is that you are just so many pounds of hamburger, that is true.

By engaging in a thread about souls, hell and heaven, you are either ready to ponder the possibility of those things or you're just trolling. Either is fine by me, just pick a side.

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@Leadfoot,

I already have. I'm an atheist.

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@cicerone imposter,

You equate the vatican with christianity? Have you really compared, or are you just going on what others say?

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@neologist,

OK, Roman Catholics.

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@cicerone imposter,

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OK, Roman Catholics.

Same question. Only substitute words:
You equate Roman Catholics with christianity? Have you really compared, or are you just going on what others say?
I know the Roman Catholics equate themselves with christianity. But that's not my question.

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@cicerone imposter,

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I already have. I'm an atheist.

So you were just trolling. I won't trouble you again unless you recant your confession.

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If catholics are true christians, I'm Nanny McPhee.. Smile

Satan has suckered them into praying to Jesus's mum and to human "saints", even though nowhere in the bible does it say do that.
Their prayers are therefore like firing blanks and they might just as well save their breath and whistle dixie.. Smile

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@Harry Blake,

Actually, HB, they feel comfort and security when they pray. That is a benefit.

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@cicerone imposter,

Praying to Jesus's mum didn't do Fredo Corleone much good out in that boat on the lake-
"Holy Mary mother of God..." BAM!.
Incidentally Jesus was not God, he said so himself, so catholics are wrong on that count too.. Smile

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@Harry Blake,

It really doesn't matter which god an individual prays to. They get the same benefit of comfort and security. They sincerely 'feel it.'

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Failure is eternal once done. Why should one rectify a circle into a square ? Circles are circles n squares are squares.

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