Can Souls in Hell be Forgiven and Saved and Go to Heaven?

@InfraBlue,

OK.

@neologist,

Thank you.

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@SN95,

I believe that if your in heaven and someone you love is in hell, it's because they are supposed to be there and you being in heaven should understand that that is God's will so if you've made it and you really want your loved one to be there as well, ask him. if he says no then he says no. he may be saying not right now. its literally just how much faith you have in him. if he says they can come to heaven if.... then you know that's something that they have to do on their own. eventually they will realize or God will grant you permission to tell them... just believe in what you want to believe and if its wrong you will undoubtedly find out that is. as long as you have faith in him.

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@TeddyTuesday,

Wow! Is this the straight dope from god?

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@extra medium,

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Does anyone here know for an absolute certainty that the Bible actually states human souls in Hell have no chance for forgiveness?

For openers, no one on Earth actually knows, based on scientific evidence that there is a Hell. Since most Christians (and Jews, and Muslims ) believe in a kind and gentle Creator, they most likely believe, that if a soul ends up in a place commonly referred to as Hell after death, that for sure a kind and gentle Creator will forgive the owner of that soul and release the soul from Hell.

While we all know that there is "hell on earth", no one who has lived/died can state with certainty that there is a Hell in the afterlife.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

Wow! Is this the straight dope from god?

Yep!!! I was cc'd on the email

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@glitterbag,

In that case.....

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

Wow! Is this the straight dope from god?

That's one hell of a story, ain't it?

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@extra medium,

Does anyone here know for an absolute certainty that the Bible actually states human souls in Hell have no chance for forgiveness?
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Yes, once in, never out.. Smile

In Jesus's parable of the rich man and the beggar, the rich man in hell asks to be let out or at least to be allowed visits from his family, but Abraham in heaven tells him-
"..between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us." (Luke 16:26)

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@Harry Blake,

The bible is fiction. There were many writers and books. Many were left out. What's included in the bible has many errors, omissions, and contradictions.

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@cicerone imposter,

Said -"The bible is fiction"
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Prove it.. Smile

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@Harry Blake,

Yeah, but the bible says when you're dead, you're dead

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For the living know that they will die;
But the dead know nothing,
And they have no more reward,
For the memory of them is forgotten.
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Also their love, their hatred, and their envy have now perished;
Nevermore will they have a share
In anything done under the sun. (Ecclesiastes 9: 5,6)

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There is no intermediate place or condition of soul sleep

What do you think Paul meant when he said: 'I would not have you ignorant about the dead; they sleep.'

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@neologist,

Yes, Ecclesiastes says when you're dead you're dead, but that's in the OLD Testament when they didn't know any better.
If God wanted us to stick with the Old T, he wouldn't have sent Jesus to give us the NEW T.. Smile

Jesus said:-"Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life" (Matt 25:46)

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@Leadfoot,

When Jesus returns, the dead get a wake-up call-
Jesus said- “Why all this commotion and wailing? The child is not dead but asleep.” (Mark 5:39)

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@Harry Blake,

Yeah, just pointing out that there are clearly two 'deaths' being spoken about in the bible. Only the second one is permanent.

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@Leadfoot,

Can't Jesus just let me go play another computer game elsewhere ? Gosh !

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@Fil Albuquerque,

Sure. I don't why you were on this thread to begin with. No 'maths' or 'machines' here for you to be interested.

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@Harry Blake,

Harry Blake wrote:

Yes, Ecclesiastes says when you're dead you're dead, but that's in the OLD Testament when they didn't know any better.
If God wanted us to stick with the Old T, he wouldn't have sent Jesus to give us the NEW T..
Jesus said:-"Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life" (Matt 25:46)

The "Old T"?
So, as far as you are concerned, Adam and Eve could not have existed?
Or, Jesus was having mental lapses when he quoted from the "Old T"?
For that matter, why would Paul quote from the "Old T"? Especially when he was inspired to say at 2 Timothy 3:16 " . . . all scripture is inspired of God . . .?
Or perhaps, you are saying God himself "didn't know any better" when he inspired Solomon to write?

You suffer from an affliction common to many nominal christians: the inability to connect natural Israel with spiritual Israel. The Hebrew and Greek (Aramaic) writings are linked.

Also, you must know that there are many "testaments" contained in the Hebrew texts. Only one of them has been made obsolete by Jesus' sacrifice.

So, you do realized that the soul is mortal . . . . Or, do you?

Harry Blake wrote:

When Jesus returns, the dead get a wake-up call-
Jesus said- “Why all this commotion and wailing? The child is not dead but asleep.” (Mark 5:39)

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@Leadfoot,

I am nosy in my gaming.

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