Seems there are many questions and remarks since I last visited the forum.
OK. Lets go...
Thank you
??????? for your replies,
??????? wrote:But the God of Christianity tells us that we are to love our enemies and pray for those who persecute us
And how many Christians apply this? Did not the 2 destructive world wars involve many Christian countries? Are not the Christian American governments who made (and make) attrocities in Hirochima, Nagazaki, Kandahar, Falloujah, Guantanamo, Abu Ghrib... ?
??????? wrote:Why did Allah wait 6 centuries after the death of Christ and the spurt of Christianity to introduce the doctrine of the Quran to Muhammad? Does that sound logical?
First, your (and my) Creator answers you in the Holy Quran:
"Allah knoweth best where (and how) to carry out His mission." [Glorious Qur'an 6:124]
Secondly, I do not discuss why Jesus (peace be upon him) came 2005 years ago (God forbid) - God knows best when and where to send Messengers -, but I discuss the "salvation through Jesus's blood" and why, If it is the
only way to Heaven, did it came so late.
PS: You could argue that Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) came later than Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him). We believe that Islam was the religion of all the prophets, beginning from Adam (peace be upon him), they were all were Muslims, and the only way to Paradise is Islam:
"If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter He will be in the ranks of those who have lost (All spiritual good). " [Glorious Qur'an 3:85]
??????? wrote:your comment that He is far from being God is taken from your belief which you believe is true.
Not only from my belief but also from the logic which says that this inimaginably beautiful and complex universe is created and run by a God Who is so Perfect, and would not have a human, imperfect state.
??????? wrote:those contradictions were handed down from a friend of mines who doesn't know too much of the Quran but debates with Muslims on another forum.
It is always important to study a religion and gather knowledge about it before trying to refute it.
I call upon your friend to read the Glorious Qur'an and study it in an impartial manner.
??????? wrote:There are however a few passages which I can indeed quote which every muslim I have come across can not sufficiently present a logistical and exegetical refutation
If a brother/sister is new to Islam and is therefore unable to refute an allegation, this does not mean the allegation is true. God (Allah in Arabic) orders us to seek knowledge. Indeed, the first revealed word (in chronological order of revelation) was:
"Read" [Glorious Qur'an 96:1]
??????? wrote:My goal is to examine the differences between your belief and mines and why they are contrary (ESPECIALLY DOCTRINE) to each other when supposedly the God of Islam is supposedly the God of Christianity, which BTW I disagree.
I appreciate your frankness here. We - Muslims - worship the God who created the Heavens and the Earth, the God who is the Sustainer of the whole universe, the God of Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Muhammad... the God who is most Gracious, most Merciful, most Powerful, the God who Has dominance over all things, the God who Has the most perfect of attributes. I don't think Christians or Jews would worship another god...
If the word
Allah poses problem, then many Lebanese and Egyptian Christians call God
Allah. As I said in many occasions,
Allah is the Arabic word for God.
??????? wrote:hmmm..., if you look at my refutations from an unbiased viewpoint you will agree that I am correct and the bible has not contradictions, but a lack of scriptural understanding will lead to this.
Do not forget that we agreed on a previous post that the use of BOTH the brain and heart will lead us to the truth. Didn't we?
??????? wrote:The fact remains that a copyist error does not nullify the inspiration or the authority of Scripture. You must keep consider that God Himself inspired the originals, which were without error.
I completely agree here. In Islam, we believe that God revealed the originals which were without error, by name: The Taurah (to Moses peace be upon him), The Zaboor (to David peace be upon him), The Injeel (to Jesus peace be upon him). But, due to copyist errors and other reasons, the Bible we have today is, with all due respect, not exactly the one revealed by God.
??????? wrote:However, they in no way affect any "doctrinal" areas.
And here is the vital point! Do you have
any proof that "The Trinity", "Jesus is son of God", "Jesus is God", "Salvation is only throught Jesus" are not simply copyist errors, just like Ahaziah story?
??????? wrote:Interesting, the bible never uses such words, it lets the believer exalt God and not the book. The bible can be called the Holy Bible or just plain "bible", and I don't believe it makes a bit of a difference to the God of Christianity if the book is given an exalted name.
In Islam, we worship God alone. Now, the Glorious Qur'an is so important because it was, is and will be a guide to many people towards the truth.
??????? wrote:Since you consider the Quran the "Word of God", do you take offense that the Bible calls Jesus the "Word of God"?
First, the Glorious Qur'an is the
book revealed to Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) by God almighty.
Secondly, maybe you'll be surprised, but the Glorious Qur'an also calls Jesus (peace be upon him) a "Word of God". In fact:
"Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah."[Glorious Qur'an 3:45]
Jesus (peace be upon him) is called "Word of God" because God created him with a single word:
Be! and he was.
??????? wrote:And I also respect yours and am not trying to change it because it is apparent that you stand firm in your belief.
I indeed stand very firm in my belief, not due to an intelligence or strength from my part (God forbid), but thanks to a guidance from my Creator. All Praise be to God alone.
??????? wrote:I on the other hand have ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT that Jesus died for my sins
Sure? Do not the copyist errors put doubts on the integrity of the Bible (which is the heart of the Christian belief)? God almighty does not make any error...
??????? wrote:That my friend is your opinion and nothing more.
No, more than that. It is (and will be) the opinion of billions (including some non-muslims). It is a fact, my friend.
??????? wrote:Then why question if God Almighty can protect believers from "deadly poision" and defy science?
First, it is in the definition of believers that we disagree, not in the fact that God Has the ability to do everything.
Secondly, I have never come across or read about a Christian who passed (unintentionally) the "deadly poison" test and proved that.
??????? wrote:So as to whether I truly believe what I believe to be the truth, I believe that Jesus is the Son of God and that He is the only way to receive forgiveness of sins and eternal life.
That is your belief and the one of many others. Although I respect it, I (and many many others) believe it is NOT the truth.
??????? wrote:Jesus on the other hand voluntarly humbled Himself and became a "servant", this pleased God the Father.
If this act of Jesus pleased God the Father, this means they are different entities, otherwise could God do something to please Himself? I recognize that I still have (serious) problems understanding the oneness of God in Christianity.
On the other hand, in Islam, there is
One and a
Unique God.
The Bible wrote:Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. (John 8:58)
Even if Jesus meant to claim by these words that he was alive before Abraham was, is this sufficient ground to say that he was divine? If Jesus lived in heaven then came to earth it might mean something remarkable, but it would not be enough to establish him as God incarnate. Additionally, it should be noted that these words are open to other interpretation. Christians do not imagine that the prophet Jeremiah had a pre-human existence and so they find a suitable way of interpreting the words of Jeremiah 1:5 which portray such a situation, if taken literally, why not apply a similar understanding in the case of John 8:58?
For the third time, would you mind commenting on my question:
muslim1 wrote:One may wonder why are priests not allowed to marry and therefore to have sons?
englishmajor wrote:Is Allah portrayed as a violent God?
Thank you
englishmajor for your important question,
Allah (which is the Arabic word for God) Has the Most perfect of attributes, He is not violent, He is indeed the Most Gracious the Most Merciful. But His punishment is a severe one, because He is also
Just.
Here is a list of 99 names (or attributes) of our Great Creator:
http://www.islamicity.com/Mosque/99names.htm
Steve wrote:Muslim1...Did Mohammed perform miracles?
I welcome again your questions,
Steve, and I thank you for this important one.
Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) had many miracles: the splitting of the moon, the night journey to Jerusalem and then to the Heavens, healing many diseases, recovering the sight for some people...
Here is a gallery of pictures that shows some miracles of Islam that happened just years ago:
http://www.geocities.com/islamimiracles/miracles_of_Allah_Almighty.htm
But, there are two major miracles:
1) Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) himself:
He was an unlettered Prophet, living in the deserts of Arabia, lost his parents and many members of his family, had many enemies (including some of his relatives), Arabia was encircled by two super-power enemies: the Persians and the Romans... Yet, from all that darkness, Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) could perfectly deliver God's message to all human beings. And today, 1400 years after, Islam is still a major religion with numerous reverts everyday, and the teachings of our beloved Prophet are and will be valid in the future. How great a Prophet is Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him), we love him more than our families, more than ourselves.
2) The Glorious Qur'an:
1400 years after its revelation, the Noble Qur'an is still valid and challenges whosoever to find any mistake or contradiction. Many people converted (I say reverted) to Islam only on hearing verses from the Qur'an. For example, Professor Tajaten Tajasen, the former head of the Department of Anatomy and Embryology and the present dean of the college of Medicine at the university of Chang-mi Thailand, only by hearing and reading the verses that deal with embryology in the Glorious Qur'an (especially 22:5) reverted to the true religion (with my due respect to other religion) and completely changed his life.
I can give you tens of other stories from renounced people who reverted to Islam by reading the Qur'an.
Here are some stories of a few reverts:
http://thetruereligion.org/modules/xfsection/
And Allah (God) knows best.