If Jesus died to forgive us, then why is there a Hell?

Considering Darwinism is taught in every major school and also considering that 90% of most Americans believe in God, who is imposing what on others? All religionists want is to have a fair voice in the matter concerning what is taught to their own children. I see no reason why creationism cannot be taught as a differing historical view considering even scientists don't know what happens one split second before the big bang. I do not endorse doing away with Darwinism but I do support allowing young minds to consider divine intervention as regarding this life and creationism. Paganism, Judaism, Islam, Christianity, Hinduism and ever Buddhism to some extent all believe in an all powerful being, force, mother and/or father or light who set the universe into place.

And what happens to atheists and agnostics when they die? Do they go to hell or live for a billion years? The same exact argument can be put back on you? Science has no idea of an afterlife whatsoever... If you say people simply rot in the ground you are espousing yet another "religion" because no one truly knows of the soul and spirit of a being...

What makes your own conjecture of the afterlife any more valid or divinely inspired than the supposition presented in the Bible? Yes the Bible is antiquated culturally and even ethically out of date in many if not most places but it also has some valid universal truths that billions of people believe over the small percentage of closed minded naturists who want to silence the overwhelming majority of believers.

And if the earth was sufficiently covered with clouds?

RR, You are of coarse ignorant about the Discovery Institute, the religious who are trying to overturn Roe vs Wade, and all those people trying to push for "creationism" in our school's science curricula.

When you talk about christianity in a historical view, most people who have done any reading about Judism and how the new testament were written and gathered, what more do you need to know?

Divine intervention? That's what most people call "nature." There's nothing divine about it!

It doesn't matter what religious' belief anyone has when we die. We rot or get cremated, and we're completely gone from this life.

I rely on my conjecture from common sense and observation. I've never seen anyone come back from the dead. I've also never seen a flying saucer land and some alien step on earth.

For how many days and nights?

So do the others.

You don't really suppose the Genesis days were literal 24 hour days, do you?

That they are not is indicated by Genesis 2:4, which lumps all 6 into a single day.

That they are quite long is indicated by the fact that the seventh day has not been reported as having ended.

neo, Does that mean that when god rested on the seventh day, that he just disappeared, and we're still on the seventh day of his creation? It sure seems that way.

Of coarse during his first seven days of creation, he did say the day and night was the first day.

Have you read 2 Peter 3:8?
"that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."

there is no greater abomination than that of the human soul.
somebody said that.

CI in the same token you are ignorant of the liberal sierra club. In the beginning was Al Gore who created the internet and said let there be Google...

What, are we going to vote God out of the schools? Do you really think God cares if we are wearing a blind fold to divine existence?

There are so many unexplained holes in evolution, though, evolution is my own personal preferential theory of life, evolution does not explain itself clearly enough. Neither does evolution explain the beginning of the physical world. The big bang theory does not address how materials for the physical world came into existence in the first place neither does it even attempt to. So science draws a big giant zero there yet you seem to know better than science... Isn't your own denial of a possible divine creator anti science? For you draw a conclusion without the aid of scientific analysis, method and procedure. The subject of God is not a political poll that if people vote God out then God will simply appear or disappear at our own will...

By extension, one day might be a microsecond or a shave and a haircut might last several decades.

As for the subject of abortion, neither do you know when life begins and neither does science. Some believe that life begins even before procreation, that we are predestined to leave an impact on this word in our creators behalf. Yet you seem to know when life begins without even the need of science to tell you whether if there is a migrant souls and/or spirit. Haven't you not then created your own religion of pure speculation and unverifiable spaghetti monster truth? What gives your opinion any more verity than the next persons (or the Bibles) non scientific assessment of the matter?

I do not condone using the Bible as "God's word"... but, it does have many interesting arguments to some truths. Just as your own denial of a God is equally as viable in the whole scheme of the purely unknown.

There are two perceptible "time" beginnings. The beginning of the physical world i.e. the big bang and the beginning of human consciousness.

There is God's theoretical beginning of physical matter and there is the beginning of human consciousness of about 7 thousand years ago when we began to measure time with monoliths like Stonehenge. At that time we began to make tools and colonize great cities of learning. How biblical people knew of this is in itself a mystery.

Thus evolution happened before we were even conscious.

Genesis 1:12 KJV
And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

Comment: In science today this word KIND is still used as in "mankind"..

One then must question before humans became conscious of time and evolved from lesser beings were things not after their "kind"? This is what evolution suggests, that cats and dogs mated and made catty dogs.

What would make the writers of the bible state that Eden time was the end of evolution... There is much more than meets the eye in many biblical passages. Yet the Bible does not state that evolution did not once occur prior to a certain time, it just recognizes an end to it. And how would we know when this time occurred when we were not perceptibly conscious of time. Can we even trust the earth to reckon time in carbon dating when Einstein proved that time is relative to its observer?

The only holes in evolution are those that creationists love to believe. Please identify for us "all" the holes in evolution that you see?

Life begins when the semen connects with the egg; many are aborted naturally. Some babies die at birth.

RR wrote:

Never mind that the word "mankind" is English, and the original writings of the bible were in an Aramaic (Arabic and Hebrew) language.

Adam and Eve sinned and died in the seventh day, Just as they had been warned.

And by the end of the seventh day, this prophecy will have been fulfilled:
(Genesis 3:15) . . .And I shall put enmity between you and the woman and between your seed and her seed. He will bruise you in the head and you will bruise him in the heel. . .

The intervening time may seem excessive to us, but to God it is as a day.

How long has your haircut lasted, Edgar?

(snicker)

Interesting. . .
A believer with no basis for belief.

RR is not alone in his confusion about the bible. Is this how god plays tricks on "believers?" Do as I say, not as I do.