If Jesus died to forgive us, then why is there a Hell?

Once he created light, night and day were a given. That's if you understand physics. He didn't have to divide it between light and darkness.

According to physics there is dark matter and dark energy. Also light travels which shows it has some sort of life or automation. Even atoms have a unique intelligent design. I do not disbelieve in god and angels I just disbelieve in the God portrayed by the bible in general. The bible contains some great truths in spite of the fact that it also is mixed with allot of untruth.

This is the best you can do, right?

So, if you were explaining to primitive farmers how day and night came to be, what words would you use?

No words required; in the dark, shine a flashlight on a round object. One side is light, and the other side is (my god!) dark.

Would you suggest calling night day and darkness light also?

If that was the original word for those events, then yes.

Everything in genesis is positively Earthbound -- there's absolutely no cosmology there for obvious reasons. Genesis was written when there was virtually zero science or it was so suppressed, none of the wandering scribes in the desert were aware that what they were writing was total nonsense based on not just mythology of the time but total, unimaginative fantasy fiction. The Bible is mostly poorly written and horribly edited by the religious plutocracy that rose out of Constantine's "acceptance" of Christianity. Of course, they had some poorly paid monks to do all the cutting and pasting of the time to come up with the written words in the Bible as they mostly stand today. The word poppycock was invented especially for them.

Don't forget reflected light and the slight halo that forms around the dark edge. Physics and the nature of light in the open air, but also in space where it responds differently, belies the "I'm-ma gonna call this Day (capitalized!) and I'm-ma gonna call this Night (capitalized!)" Pardon me, I have to pick my nose while I'm doin' all this work. Remarkable. NOT

(The affectations in writing the Bible are an oxymoron -- laughably unfunny).

Who created physics? Are you suggesting the laws of physics as you know them existed at the time God created light?

Yes ... God is obviously no cosmologist.

Actually, the word literally means “as fine as powdered doll ****.”

Yes, but:

A nothing can't create anything. That also goes for santa.

How dare you dash my illusion about Santa -- next thing you know, you'll be attacking the Tooth Fairy. It's Christimas, so unless someone has lost a tooth, the Tooth Fairy is fair game.

So this is how you would explain to a primitive farmer?

CI: Get a flashlight.

Og: Huh?

All this erudition from a hairy horny beast!

Shocking!

Anybody who doesn't understand simple physics, and believes what the bible says. Picture worth a thousand words. They might just grasp the idea that in the dark a light shone on a ball will have a light and dark side to it.

As a matter of fact, the results will be more impressive out in the field at night. Don't forget to shine that flashlight some distance from the ball, because the sun is 91 million miles from earth.

But we should believe what you say instead CI?

I have learned over the years not to hold my own interpretation of religious books over common sense and over my care for other humans ideas as long as I and others keep religion in its own perspective much can be learned from it and much is simply errant. What troubles me is you don't seem to have the same disdain for say, Egyptian religion etc... your hatred seems to unfairly be directed at the only the bible.

This signals to me that you have an unhealthy bias that is not based upon reason and rational thought but bias toward specifically the bible. If god separated the brown cows from the purple cows you would still find fault in that... Once you lift away the hatred for the bible you might realize it is not much different than the Egyptians worshiping cats and the like as gods. Or the Hindus saying the Atman was light or Buddhism saying that Buddha was reincarnated as a being of light. No your only rub seems to be with the bible. You might want to examine your bias because it seems disproportionate and prejudiced and thus seems likewise unreliable at best.

The same goes for Light Wizard. I don't see you scrutinizing other religious texts say the pagans to the same level of scrutiny though millions have held that religion and other religions in the exact same esteem as those who venerate the bible today.

"The word poppycock was invented especially for them."

Especially for THEM? Or, for those who believe in god irregardless of their faith?

I would reconsider my motives if I had it constantly out for only one faith and left others religions to perpetuate much of the same dogma. What is it about specifically the bible that makes it any worse than say, the Quran which also calls for public stonings and the likes possibly in an even more brutal manner. Is this some sort of appeasement and newfangled leftist strategy? Kill Christmas and the likes... Where the bible does seem to back off its brutality when the scope of the book is taken into consideration... Remember it was Jesus who said "he who is without sin cast the first stone" It is also the bible that says "god is love" and "love thy neighbor..." "honor thy father and mother" etc...

Do you think your own words are any better where much of the bible is simply recording history from a human perspective and is not always espousing a way of life?

Considering that the new testament openly admits faults in the old testament is it not conceivable that there may be ever more testaments to come before humans get things right?

The measurement of time used to be from sunset to sunrise and it is our culture that uses AM and PM. So what that verse is saying is regarding time and when humans began to count days reckoned by sunrise and sunset. Monuments like Stonehenge were erected to do exactly that to separated night from day yet you don't seem to have the same disdain for them... Perhaps you even admire the religiosity of the builders of Stonehenge when they were worshiping their very own spaghetti monster. Does it really need to be much more? Does Genesis need to record e=mc2 to demonstrate that God exists?

RR, The Egyptian religion (or most other religions for that matter) doesn't try to intrude into my life like christianity in this country. Some religious' christian nuts also try to introduce "creationism" into our schools as "science." Christianity also slows medical progress (Bush limited stem cell research), and prevents women from free choice in how to control their own bodies.

"Only at the bible" seems relevant in the discussion of the christian religion, since most of the beliefs of adherents are based on "faith" and nothing much else. The bible is replete with errors and omissions, but only people who look at this book with an open mind can see all the problems inherent in it.

The bible claims the earth is 7,000 years old, but people who believe in science know that the earth is 4.5 billion years old. There never was a great flood, but the bible claims there was.

Open your eyes and your mind; it's logical and based on common sense.

As for your "motives," we are all aware that god is a vengeful god, and if you don't live by the scriptures, you'll end up in hell and miss out on everlasting (boring) life.

When people go to heaven, do they all arrive at the age they died on earth? Do you age in heaven?

So, you live for another billion years; how boring!