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If Jesus died to forgive us, then why is there a Hell?

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Caesar
 
Sat 16 Apr, 2005 01:18 am
It doesnt make sense. Jesus dies so that "all" of us can be saved, yet we still need a place for the un-saved people...Explain.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Sat 16 Apr, 2005 07:42 am
I think that I am going to have a bumper sticker made up:

"Never attempt to explain by logic and reason, something that is neither logical nor reasonable".
Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Sat 16 Apr, 2005 07:45 am
because some people, like liberal democrats, filthy queers, and anti war hippies won't accept Jesus as their personal savior.
squinney
 
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Sat 16 Apr, 2005 07:46 am
Re: If Jesus died to forgive us, then why is there a Hell?
Caesar wrote:
It doesnt make sense. Jesus dies so that "all" of us can be saved, yet we still need a place for the un-saved people...Explain.


I've highletd the important word in your question. Just because everyone CAN be, doesn't mean they will be since we have free will.

Actually, I think God was just really sickened by all the dead lambs and goats that kept being laid at his doorstep by people that would knock and run.
LionTamerX
 
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Sat 16 Apr, 2005 07:54 am
So does that mean that my cat worships me because he leaves mice at my doorstep ?

Interesting perspective.
Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Sat 16 Apr, 2005 07:57 am
LionTamerX wrote:
So does that mean that my cat worships me because he leaves mice at my doorstep ?

Interesting perspective.


Cats are the souls of the damned. Don't fall for that **** I beg you.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Sat 16 Apr, 2005 07:58 am
LionTamerX wrote:
So does that mean that my cat worships me because he leaves mice at my doorstep ?

Interesting perspective.


Absolutely. To your pet, YOU are God.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Sat 16 Apr, 2005 08:10 am
Phoenix32890 wrote:
LionTamerX wrote:
So does that mean that my cat worships me because he leaves mice at my doorstep ?

Interesting perspective.


Absolutely. To your pet, YOU are God.


then why does my dog occasionally poop on the altar at my church? That's no way to treat someone you worship. Rolling Eyes
Phoenix32890
 
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Sat 16 Apr, 2005 08:11 am
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then why does my dog occasionally poop on the altar at my church? That's no way to treat someone you worship.


Maybe because in the dog's mind, he is giving something of himself! :wink:
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Sat 16 Apr, 2005 08:15 am
Phoenix32890 wrote:
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then why does my dog occasionally poop on the altar at my church? That's no way to treat someone you worship.


Maybe because in the dog's mind, he is giving something of himself! :wink:


This is not a savory aroma to the Lord. Evil or Very Mad
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LionTamerX
 
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Sat 16 Apr, 2005 08:18 am
To a dog, poop is currency.
It's a tithe of sorts.
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au1929
 
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Sat 16 Apr, 2005 02:57 pm
He only died for people who believe the rest of us are going to hell. Or so I have been informed. Razz
watchmakers guidedog
 
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Sun 17 Apr, 2005 02:46 am
Dude, you try coming up with an explanation for why your supposedly omnipotent messiah got killed so easily on the spot with bunches of followers anxiously awaiting for you to make it all make sense for them.

Under those circumstances the guy was lucky to think of saying "uh, yeah. He died for us, it was deliberate".
xingu
 
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Sun 17 Apr, 2005 03:39 am
What make you so certain there's a hell?

If god is a god of perfect love then hell would not exist.

Only hate creates hell. Hate is the domain of humans.

When humans can't express their hate in the manner they desire they give that task to their gods.

Then, with their incredible imagination, humans tell all the horrible things their gods will do to those who will not believe as they do.

God cares not what we believe. If god did then why has he provided souls to all manners of faith and non-belief?
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roverroad
 
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Sun 17 Apr, 2005 03:59 am
There's nothing about religion that makes sense. It's all completely illogical. I guess that's why they try to push the faith justification.
snood
 
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Sun 17 Apr, 2005 05:54 am
Other illogical things:
Love, Hope, Heroism and Children.

What a blighted world it would be if everything had to be logical.
watchmakers guidedog
 
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Sun 17 Apr, 2005 06:15 am
snood wrote:
What a blighted world it would be if everything had to be logical.


What a beautiful world... *sighs*

A wonderful dream snood, but not going to happen.
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fredjones
 
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Mon 18 Apr, 2005 04:56 pm
say it ain't so
au1929 wrote:
He only died for people who believe the rest of us are going to hell. Or so I have been informed. Razz


Pure genius...! I had to register just so I could agree. Pretty sick on my part, I guess.
au1929
 
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Mon 18 Apr, 2005 04:59 pm
fredjones
Welcome aboard
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watchmakers guidedog
 
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Mon 18 Apr, 2005 10:19 pm
Re: say it ain't so
FredJones: Love the avatar. Good ol' Don Hertzfeld.
 

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