Frank Apisa wrote:neologist wrote:Frank Apisa wrote:Intrepid wrote:Neo,
Adam was not perfect. If he was perfect, he would not have created the first sin.
"Sin" is anything done that offends your god.
When did Satan first offend your god?
If Satan had sinned before tempting Eve, why would we not have been told of it? Even after the Edenic episode, in Noah's time, many angels chose to side with Satan. Were they also naive?
Hello...hello...Earth calling Neo:
My question was "When did Satan first offend your god?"
Any chance you can answer that?
And if Satan was the serpent...why was that so...considering Satan still was an angel according to you and your cult.
When did Satan first offend your god?
As you said to me...surely we should have been told that.
What part of "If Satan had sinned before tempting Eve, why would we not have been told of it?" do you not understand. Frank? You are so much fun.
neologist wrote:Frank Apisa wrote:neologist wrote:Frank Apisa wrote:Intrepid wrote:Neo,
Adam was not perfect. If he was perfect, he would not have created the first sin.
"Sin" is anything done that offends your god.
When did Satan first offend your god?
If Satan had sinned before tempting Eve, why would we not have been told of it? Even after the Edenic episode, in Noah's time, many angels chose to side with Satan. Were they also naive?
Hello...hello...Earth calling Neo:
My question was "When did Satan first offend your god?"
Any chance you can answer that?
And if Satan was the serpent...why was that so...considering Satan still was an angel according to you and your cult.
When did Satan first offend your god?
As you said to me...surely we should have been told that.
What part of "If Satan had sinned before tempting Eve, why would we not have been told of it?" do you not understand. Frank? You are so much fun.
Okay...we apparently now know when it didn't happen. So when did it happen.
You are a ball also, Neo. That is why I love it when you post.
Let's see . . . Satan didn't sin before tempting Eve . . and after tempting Eve it was apparent that he had sinned . . .hmm.
Not before . . .
Not after . . .
Yet Jesus called him the 'father of the lie'.
This could take a while, Frank. Anyone else care to jump in?
The serpent was the instrument of Satan.
I think Frank is referring to the timing of Satan's sin.
neologist wrote:I think Frank is referring to the timing of Satan's sin.
You mean he wants an exact chronological report of every event? Ain't gonna happen.
I don't want to give away the answer because Frank is having so much fun.
Hint: Did God know Satan was going to use the serpent to tempt Eve before he went through with it?
It's a stupid question, I know. But I didn't ask it.
neologist wrote:I don't want to give away the answer because Frank is having so much fun.
Hint: Did God know Satan was going to use the serpent to tempt Eve before he went through with it?
The folks that wrote the book knew. It's called "plot."
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Frank salutes you all:
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Frank; Is that the beer that made Milwaukee famous?
Well, you gotta admit....Frank is a man of his word. Would have been nice to toast us with champagne, but I guess Frank has beer tastes.
:-)
Thanx for the toast and the pic Frank! See you around the 13th!
neologist wrote:Let's see . . . Satan didn't sin before tempting Eve . . and after tempting Eve it was apparent that he had sinned . . .hmm.
Not before . . .
Not after . . .
Yet Jesus called him the 'father of the lie'.
This could take a while, Frank. Anyone else care to jump in?
Poor Neo...stuck for an answer...so he trys mocking the question.
Neo...you have mouthed off about not accepting anything that is not in the Bible.
You have also asserted that Satan did not sin before his encounter with Adam...(an assertion apparently made because you want your idiot god to be taken by surprise that Satan tempted Eve.)
Now...I am asking you to furnish the Biblical reference that tells us when Satan was thrown out of heaven from the host of angels.
You show enough ignorance with your posts without doing any pretense of ignorance, Neo.
Answer the question or dodge it...but don't try to make the question the problem.
Frank,
Here are two biblical references for when Satan was cast out of heaven.
Isaiah 14: 12-15
How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! You said in your heart, "I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain. I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High. But you are brought down to the grave to the depths of the pit.
Also, Ezekiel 28: 11-19
The word of the Lord came to me: Son of man, take up a lament concerning the King of Tyre and say to him: This is what the Sovereign Lord sas: You were the model of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. You were in Eden, the garden of God; every precious stone adorned you: ruby, topaz and emerald, chrysolite, onyx and jasper, sapphire, turquoise and beryl. Your settings and mountings were made of gold; on the day you were created they were prepared. You were anointed as a guardian cherub, for so I ordained you. You were on the holy mount of God; you walked among the fiery stones. You were blameless in your ways from the day you were created till wickedness was found in you. Through your widespread trade you were filled with violence, and you sinned. So I drove you in disgrace from the mount of God, and I expelled you, O guardian cherub, from among the fiery stones. Your heart became proud on account of your beauty, and you corrupted your wisdom because of your splendor, So I threw you to the earth; I made a spectacle of you before kings. By your many sins and dishonest trade have you desecrated your sanctuaries. So I made a fire come out from you and it consumed you, and I reduced you to ashes on the ground in the sight of all who were watching. All the nations who knew you are appalled at you.
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled on the world was convincing us he didn't exist.
-Verbal Kent (Kevin Spacey)-
from the movie the Usual Suspects
Even Satan believes in God
Hi Snood!
That was one awesome movie! I never miss a Kevin Spacey film! Good to see you!
You too, M.A.
Nill Illigitimi Carborundum!
