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If Jesus died to forgive us, then why is there a Hell?

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Frank Apisa
 
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Wed 20 Jul, 2005 12:25 pm
Momma Angel wrote:
Seems to me there has to be something greater out there.


Why?

Other than the fact that you want "something greater out there"....what makes you feel that way?

And why, oh why, would you call the god described in the Bible "something greater?"

Even if it were as apparent as you suppose that there is "something greater out there"....why couldn't it be something very, very, very much different from that cartoon god of the Bible?



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So, what, we all just materialized?


The answer to that question, from just about all indications, is: We do not know!

If you are guessing that the only reasonable answer is "Because the god of the Bible made us all!"....you really should back it up.

Care to do so.
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Arella Mae
 
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Wed 20 Jul, 2005 12:33 pm
Gee Frank, let's see. You want me to explain that obstinate statement to you, but when I ask you what God's name is, you ignore that.

I don't mind a discussion, but, it has to be a fair discussion.

You try to goad others into a "challenge" but ignore their simple question put to you.

What's up with that, Frank?
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Lightwizard
 
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Wed 20 Jul, 2005 12:36 pm
Amigo wrote:
Momma don't quite. Smile


Laughing I hear music!
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Arella Mae
 
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Wed 20 Jul, 2005 12:40 pm
Lightwizard Wrote:

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Loosely translated, you semantics and understand of the Bible or science is on a third grade level. Bye now.


Best take that plank out of your own eye before you point out the dust in mine.

So, you know more science than English. Ok, that's a given.

Third grade level? Wow! I am learning. I feel I have so much more to learn! I am what you would call a "baby Christian". I have not gotten to the point of being a theologian, as of yet.
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Arella Mae
 
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Wed 20 Jul, 2005 12:41 pm
Amigo,

Laughing Momma won't quit. Momma just getting started! But, Momma does play fair. No tricks, no cards up the sleeve.
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Lightwizard
 
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Wed 20 Jul, 2005 12:46 pm
Momma Angel wrote:
Lightwizard Wrote:

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Loosely translated, you semantics and understand of the Bible or science is on a third grade level. Bye now.


Best take that plank out of your own eye before you point out the dust in mine.

So, you know more science than English. Ok, that's a given.

Third grade level? Wow! I am learning. I feel I have so much more to learn! I am what you would call a "baby Christian". I have not gotten to the point of being a theologian, as of yet.


Best take the plank our of your rear end before blowing dust.

Are you speaking the King's English, or just the usual schoolyard gibberish?

I think the latter.
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Arella Mae
 
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Wed 20 Jul, 2005 12:54 pm
Now, that's what I am talking about.

It's ok for you to say I am wrong (mistaken) but God forbid, I should say the same to you?

You know, if your buttons weren't sticking out so far, no one would be able to push them! :wink:
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Amigo
 
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Wed 20 Jul, 2005 12:54 pm
I hear Darwin excepted Christ on his death bed,No joke
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Arella Mae
 
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Wed 20 Jul, 2005 12:58 pm
Amigo,

Hence came the saying "entering the Kingdom of Heaven with their coattails afire."

Many have, many do, and many will. :wink:
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Amigo
 
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Wed 20 Jul, 2005 01:02 pm
You should check this freud thing out momma.Freud...... the atheist god Laughing
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Arella Mae
 
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Wed 20 Jul, 2005 01:08 pm
Amigo,

I will have to research that one. Freud has never been one of my favorite readings but I am always willing to do a bit of research.

So, Amigo, are you sitting on the fence or have you picked your field?
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Lightwizard
 
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Wed 20 Jul, 2005 01:09 pm
Momma's gonna enter heaven with her panties afire.
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Amigo
 
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Wed 20 Jul, 2005 01:12 pm
Lightwizard wrote:
Momma's gonna enter heaven with her panties afire.
I'm laghing my ass off right now Laughing Laughing .Wizard check out constitutional democracy thread please
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Frank Apisa
 
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Wed 20 Jul, 2005 01:14 pm
Momma Angel wrote:
Gee Frank, let's see. You want me to explain that obstinate statement to you, but when I ask you what God's name is, you ignore that.

I don't mind a discussion, but, it has to be a fair discussion.

You try to goad others into a "challenge" but ignore their simple question put to you.

What's up with that, Frank?


Jehovah.

Zeus.

Pan.

Isis.

Osiris.

Jove.

Saddam.

Caligula.

Caesar.

Take yer pick.

They're free.

This...THIS...is what you call dodging something?????

Momma....you need some attention.
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kickycan
 
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Wed 20 Jul, 2005 01:17 pm
I have a question.

If someone has never been exposed to the Christian God and/or religion, and therefore never accepts Jesus as his/her savior, but otherwise lives their life in a good and "Christian" way, will they go to heaven or hell?
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Arella Mae
 
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Wed 20 Jul, 2005 01:17 pm
Sorry Frank. God told Moses what His name was.

Not dodging. I told you, I am not accepting your challenge and I also told you why. Remember that? Now, if I believe Jesus is Lord and Savior and He would not be goaded into a challenge by the devil, and I am trying to follow in Christ's footsteps, why, oh why, would I think I am better than Jesus and accept your challenge?
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Amigo
 
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Wed 20 Jul, 2005 01:18 pm
Momma,How can argue about religion and not know the basics of Freud.Have you noticed we all know a thing or two about your religion.Find somthing that puts freud simply.Put be careful.God forbid you loose your faith.Do your home work Momma.
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Arella Mae
 
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Wed 20 Jul, 2005 01:20 pm
Kickycan,

Good question! As I understand it, if one has never heard of of God, then no, they will not go to hell. Just as there is standards set forth for those too young to understand. God is not unjust.
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Arella Mae
 
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Wed 20 Jul, 2005 01:28 pm
Amigo,

I guess I don't really understand what Freud has to do with the teachings of Jesus? Enlighten me, friend.
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Amigo
 
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Wed 20 Jul, 2005 01:32 pm
Momma Angel wrote:
Kickycan,

Good question! As I understand it, if one has never heard of of God, then no, they will not go to hell. Just as there is standards set forth for those too young to understand. God is not unjust.
You mean to tell When christians gave me knowledge god in the process of trying to save my soul they actually damned me to hell,ain't that'a bitch
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