If Jesus died to forgive us, then why is there a Hell?

thats for the mods to tell me. all i was trying to do was to find a possible/ plausibe reason as to why someoe should react at a harmless comment like he did.

are are you also confused as to why i used the term redneck??

does everyone who's ever used the word redneck, get misconstrued similarly i wonder.

whats actually in order is better understanding of another persons point of view and intent.

Please read "What God wants" By Neale Walsch

Welcome again to the forum chrys.

There is no way I will read an overly long post, much less an entire book, to support an argument which I may conclude is false in its premise.

It would be helpful if you could state your ideas simply and in your own words.

I'm really not all that bright; I must admit.

BTW, brahmin; You are probably right about the windstorm your redneck flatus has created.

God wants simplicity of thoughts and a purity of the heart.

The Christian Bible is the embodiment of profound teaching and prophecy, symbolically and allegorically expressed. It is not meant to be taken literally, and, if it is, it leads to the present confusion of fundamentalist and orthodox Christians in relation to the reappearance of the Christ. It is not, as Christians fondly believe, the only book of Divine revelation, but for long years to come it will serve many millions of Christians . Freed of the man-made dogmas and doctrines, the Christian Bible will find a new lease of life in the demonstration of the age-old story of initiation through the Gospel of the life of Jesus, and as a constant reminder of the interaction of God and man in man's long journey to divinity. :wink:

All anyone can do with regard to the nature of the Bible is to guess. Any reasonable, intelligent, not-superstitious person would have to come to the conclusion that it is a book of self-serving history of the early Hebrew people...interspersed with a comic book level mythology.

It is highly codified,the key is given to very few...
Those who understand it really, cannot talk about because there is noone to understand them!

And I suppose you are one of the one's that has this key.

Which means, of course, that everyone should listen to your "codified" wisdom.

Time for another Xingu.

because jesus didn't die to forgive, thats why. he died because he got hanged, you know it happens.

Or you may say he was nailed for creating disharmony among the Jews.

Apparently quite a stir. But, there may be more to it.

Jesus had doubts until His final hours, but when He cried: "My Lord, My Lord, why hast Thou forsaken me,' He was given a vision. He understood then that the mind should not run after spiritual forces" . "

... When Jesus saw this He said, "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do" . In this way He realized, in mind, spirit, and body "that the relative and the absolute are the two sides of Light. Jesus realized that all beings are created by God and that we are all reacting to the laws of nature. Then silence prevailed. He was satisfied".

That He succeeded in His mission is certain. He anchored on the earth certain energies of Love and Will which have opened the door to vast possibilities for human accomplishment. In addition He left a legacy for all who would follow - His life and work is a promise that we too, though we stumble and fall, can ultimately achieve the greatest of goals. We can aspire to His powers, overcome death, and find resurrection.

Perhaps that is exactly what He meant to give us, the true Light He cast upon the path, "In truth, in very truth I tell you, he who has faith in me will do what I am doing; and he will do greater things still because I am going to the Father" (Jn 14:12). Therein lies our hope, our future, and the possibility of our true at-one-ment with God! :wink:

Beginning at age 15, I thought hell was just a garbled version of the notion of re-incarnation. Later, I thought hell was living in New Hampshire.

Ya, I bet them N.H. summers are awful.

I kind of miss Bristol and Newfound Lake.

First of all, the people were unfriendly to the point of armed warfare.

Second, I just hated having to spend two weeks on a lake in the middle of NH, cooking dinner for the people my ex-husband invited over. Once, I scraped my shin so badly that the bone was visible. He told me to "pull down the skin, bandage it and make dinner for my guests."

Yikes!

I can see why he's an ex-husband.

Nobody takes anyone seriously when they write like an idiot one day....and a scholar the next.

Pick a persona and stick with it.