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If Jesus died to forgive us, then why is there a Hell?

 
 
neologist
 
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Wed 29 Apr, 2015 09:01 am
@AdaG,
Welcome to a2k!
This is a fun place, albeit with few who profess belief.
But, please explain.
Does it really make sense to you that infinite punishment could be assigned for a finite sin? Particularly in the light of Paul's words at Romans 6:7?
Quote:
. . . he who has died has been acquitted from his sin
neologist
 
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Wed 29 Apr, 2015 09:04 am
@FBM,
Heh heh.
I believe I am witnessing an a2k sashay.
Very adroit.
izzythepush
 
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Wed 29 Apr, 2015 09:25 am
@neologist,
Hillah isn't exactly deserted.
Smileyrius
 
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Wed 29 Apr, 2015 03:36 pm
@AdaG,
Welcome to A2K Adag, in scripture, there were three words that are translated as Hell, Gehenna, Hades/Sheol and Tartaroo.

Which of these would you suggest is set aside for Satan and humans?
Frank Apisa
 
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Wed 29 Apr, 2015 03:40 pm
Sounds to me as though the Jehovah's Witnesses have taken over the farm.

The crop should be interesting
.
InfraBlue
 
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Wed 29 Apr, 2015 04:47 pm
@Smileyrius,
Smileyrius wrote:
...there were three words that are translated as Hell, Gehenna, Hades/Sheol and Tartaroo

You've listed four words.
neologist
 
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Wed 29 Apr, 2015 04:49 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Well, the JWs most likely agree with you when they say "if you die, you're dead"
Smileyrius
 
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Wed 29 Apr, 2015 04:50 pm
@InfraBlue,
You would not be wrong,

As Hades is the Greek translation for the word She'ol, perhaps at error, I don't often separate the two.
InfraBlue
 
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Wed 29 Apr, 2015 04:57 pm
@Smileyrius,
Smileyrius wrote:

You would not be wrong,

As Hades is the Greek translation for the word She'ol, perhaps at error, I don't often separate the two.

Hades is used independently of the word She'ol in the New Testament books that were written in Koine Greek.
Frank Apisa
 
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Wed 29 Apr, 2015 05:11 pm
@neologist,
neologist wrote:

Well, the JWs most likely agree with you when they say "if you die, you're dead"


What makes you think I say that, Neo?
Smileyrius
 
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Wed 29 Apr, 2015 05:15 pm
@InfraBlue,
Could you give me some examples for study purposes?
neologist
 
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Wed 29 Apr, 2015 05:22 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Just a guess, Frank. I could be wrong.
FBM
 
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Wed 29 Apr, 2015 05:23 pm
@neologist,
neologist wrote:

Heh heh.
I believe I am witnessing an a2k sashay.
Very adroit.


??? What do you mean?
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FBM
 
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Wed 29 Apr, 2015 05:23 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

Hillah isn't exactly deserted.


You beat me to it.
neologist
 
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Wed 29 Apr, 2015 05:30 pm
@FBM,
U. S. intends to rebuild.
What are the odds?
And will it ever be Babylon again?
FBM
 
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Wed 29 Apr, 2015 05:38 pm
@neologist,
Will it forever be populated only by ostriches and goats and whatnot? The only logical way to find out if "never" and "forever" are true prophecies is to wait until the end of time, unless you know a way to see into the future. There are people living in the area now.

And to say that Babylon will never exist again as the same political and social entity is hardly prophecy. I'd link you to the Wiki page list of ancient cities that don't exist anymore, but I know you have a phobia about off-site links. The list is extensive.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Thu 30 Apr, 2015 05:08 am
@neologist,
You are wrong, Neo.

I have no idea about what happens after death...if anything.
neologist
 
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Thu 30 Apr, 2015 01:57 pm
@Frank Apisa,
That's interesting, old friend.
Does it suggest your perception of possible indefinite future time allows you to speculate you may experience it?
It is my hope you will experience it right here on earth, you and your loved ones.
Frank Apisa
 
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Thu 30 Apr, 2015 02:27 pm
@neologist,
neologist wrote:

That's interesting, old friend.
Does it suggest your perception of possible indefinite future time allows you to speculate you may experience it?
It is my hope you will experience it right here on earth, you and your loved ones.


When I say, "I have no idea about what happens after death...if anything."...what it should suggest is: I HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS AFTER DEATH...IF ANYTHING.

I live my life as though this is the only chance I will get. One of my favorite expressions is, "This is not a dress rehearsal." (It may be, but I say it anyway.)

This may be all there is...and there may be much more. I am not going to guess either way...and I will continue to live this life as if it is the only...and if there is more, I get an unexpected bonus.

In any case, I think the Jehovah's Witness's round and round on this is way beneath someone as intelligent as you, Neo.

I do not mean this disrespectfully no matter how it sounds, my friend, but I think you, and your fellow JW's, have been had.

neologist
 
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Thu 30 Apr, 2015 03:13 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Beer tastes the same to both of us, Frank.
We value our loved ones just the same.

What's the loss?
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