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Minuteman organizer James Gilchrist defends white racists

 
 
dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 8 Apr, 2005 10:53 am
White supremacist groups are part of the campaign. The Aryan Nations has a link to the Minuteman Project on its Web site, under the banner of "A Call to All Aryans." The National Alliance, a neo-Nazi group, arrived in southern Arizona a few days prior to the official start of the Minuteman Project, and distributed racist, anti-immigrant flyers in Douglas, Ariz.

These anti-immigrant forces came to Arizona armed to the teeth. Minuteman Project organizer James Gilchrist had the nerve to play the victim, claiming that volunteers needed weapons because they have been threatened by a Latino gang. But the vigilantes are taking the opportunity to "play Wyatt Earp," admitted Sean Pearce, a police officer from suburban Phoenix, as he listened at a rally for the vigilantes in Tombstone, Ariz., leaning on his pickup with a gun in the holster on his hip.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Fri 8 Apr, 2005 10:54 am
Damn right every one of them should be armed if they are legal to carry. No question.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 8 Apr, 2005 11:00 am
dyslexia wrote:
White supremacist groups are part of the campaign. The Aryan Nations has a link to the Minuteman Project on its Web site, under the banner of "A Call to All Aryans." The National Alliance, a neo-Nazi group, arrived in southern Arizona a few days prior to the official start of the Minuteman Project, and distributed racist, anti-immigrant flyers in Douglas, Ariz.

These anti-immigrant forces came to Arizona armed to the teeth. Minuteman Project organizer James Gilchrist had the nerve to play the victim, claiming that volunteers needed weapons because they have been threatened by a Latino gang. But the vigilantes are taking the opportunity to "play Wyatt Earp," admitted Sean Pearce, a police officer from suburban Phoenix, as he listened at a rally for the vigilantes in Tombstone, Ariz., leaning on his pickup with a gun in the holster on his hip.


Are you willing to pay more taxs to support your illegal friends? I also suppose that you supported the protesting of military bases befroe during and since the end of major combat operations? Why is it ok for one group to have a form of protest but not the other? I guess it is more of the same when it comes to freedom of speech for the left and the right. When the right does something it has got to be illegal or racist.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Fri 8 Apr, 2005 11:00 am
Folds up to "pistol" size.

http://www.kel-tec.com/images/su16cside.jpg

Nice CCW gun eh?
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Fri 8 Apr, 2005 11:35 am
Quote:
When the right does something it has got to be illegal or racist.


Um, well, it generally seems to be the case these days...
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Einherjar
 
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Reply Fri 8 Apr, 2005 11:49 am
Why don't these people just donate money to the border guard budget?

(don't tell me, it's the infomous fifteen minuites isn't it)
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Fri 8 Apr, 2005 11:58 am
Why don't they write a letter to their illustrious leader in the White House to do something about the borders? You know, like increase the funding?

And einherjar, you are partially right, it IS about the fifteen minutes, as these morons get their rednecks on television and the leaders get to appear on national television...

YeeHAW!!
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Fri 8 Apr, 2005 12:50 pm
cjhsa wrote:
Folds up to "pistol" size.

http://www.kel-tec.com/images/su16cside.jpg

Nice CCW gun eh?


Prolly not legal in Commifornia, however. At the same time, I'm quite sure that Dookie is thrilled by his or her inability to legally defend their own life against MS-13 and other wonderful "immigrants", as he likes to call them.
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flyboy804
 
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Reply Fri 8 Apr, 2005 01:11 pm
Many of these people (particularly the leaders) probably do write to their congressmen and senators and possibly the president trying to get whatever is necessary to tighten the borders. They are also active in election campaigns backing those who are in agreement with them with respect to tight borders and opposing those who are not.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Fri 8 Apr, 2005 03:42 pm
I'd like to know why a citizen can detain me under citizens arrest for fishing without a license (until the DNR shows up), yet some here have a problem with the minutemen.

You who have a problem with it have more problems than you know. Where's Edgar? Off with his head!
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 8 Apr, 2005 05:21 pm
An `arrestable' offence is one for which there is a general right to arrest without warrant. Most other offences require the arrestor to obtain a warrant of arrest from a magistrate. However, a number of statutes grant powers to the police to arrest without warrant in specific circumstances.
So what is an arrestable offence? Essentially it is offence for which an adult could - at least in principle - be sentenced to at least five years' imprisonment. This includes homicides, serious and indecent assaults, rape, criminal damage, arson, and most theft-related offences.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Fri 8 Apr, 2005 05:26 pm
cjhsa
Thank you very much. You are a real gentleman and I appreciate dialogging with you.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 8 Apr, 2005 05:35 pm
dyslexia wrote:
An `arrestable' offence is one for which there is a general right to arrest without warrant. Most other offences require the arrestor to obtain a warrant of arrest from a magistrate. However, a number of statutes grant powers to the police to arrest without warrant in specific circumstances.
So what is an arrestable offence? Essentially it is offence for which an adult could - at least in principle - be sentenced to at least five years' imprisonment. This includes homicides, serious and indecent assaults, rape, criminal damage, arson, and most theft-related offences.


You forgot to add crossing the border illegally.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 8 Apr, 2005 05:37 pm
no I didn't
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 8 Apr, 2005 05:50 pm
dyslexia wrote:
no I didn't


It wasn't mentioned in your listing.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 8 Apr, 2005 05:55 pm
illegal border crossing is a federal offense, requiring a federal officer, a citizen without a warrant would be liable for illegal detention and the detainee would have the legal right to resist with reasonable force.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 8 Apr, 2005 06:09 pm
dyslexia wrote:
illegal border crossing is a federal offense, requiring a federal officer, a citizen without a warrant would be liable for illegal detention and the detainee would have the legal right to resist with reasonable force.


You don't think it would fall under a citizen's arrest? I think if they are crossing illegally then they should be detained and held till they are picked up. No violence involved unless they are trying to hurt someone then apply equal force. People have to remember that this is our country not theirs and we should be allowed to protect our borders regardless of their civil rights. In fact only people that are supposed to be here should have civil rights, everyone else is trespassing.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 8 Apr, 2005 06:14 pm
When you have someone holding someone against their will with the use or the threat of the use of force, you've crossed the line between a citizen's arrest and unlawful detention.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 8 Apr, 2005 06:19 pm
dyslexia wrote:
When you have someone holding someone against their will with the use or the threat of the use of force, you've crossed the line between a citizen's arrest and unlawful detention.


So entering our country without permission is ok as long as someone isn't trying to stop you?
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Fri 8 Apr, 2005 06:34 pm
There's a river of bleeding heart in this thread.
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