Robert Allen Zimmerman aka BOB DYLAN

I'll do just that, panz manz.

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He's just attuned.

If Mr. Tambourine Man is good, what about Blowin' in the Wind? Iconic... the man's words moved a generation. I've been looking at the compilation of lyrics -- what a huge body of work!

I think Dylan's early love songs are as full of feeling as his great songs of protest... Girl from the North Country, Tonight, I'll be Staying (here with you), Boots of Spanish Leather, Big Girl, To Be Alone With You, ...

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Ev'rything is always right
When I'm alone with you.

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Love is so simple, to quote a phrase,
You've known it all the time, I'm learnin' it these days.

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We had a falling-out, like lovers often will
And to think of how she left that night, it still brings me a chill...

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Kick your shoes off, do not fear,
Bring that bottle over here.
I'll be your baby tonight.

Then, he had that long, painful and self-revealing era of love, religion, children -- not my favorite period which I still don't quite "get" -- followed by the plaintive "Well, you'd be honest with me if only you knew."

These are songs from the man's soul. We've seen him grow up, have fun, protest, fall in love & be devastated. It is almost too much, too telling. As Spendius (I think) said, it is hard to imagine life without Dylan's songs.

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I must add to the observations of Piffka:- When taken in relationship to the meek character Zimmerman appears to be, his lyrics issue atomic merits of ability. Where does it come from?

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In the words of Dylan Thomas:
"Your pain shall be a music in your string,
And fill the mouths of heaven with your tongue."

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Nice juxtaposition

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At one point in the lives of the rebel hippies, a Jesus movement became vogue. Hence such songs as "Jesus is Just All right with Me." Think of Cat Stevens, etc. Bob Dylan was simply following the trend, although he did it with true verve. Frankly, as Cavfancier and I once discussed, the Jewish mind is superior in so many ways. Genetics, perhaps?

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Letty Betty it is infrequent that I disagree with you but I don't like talk of genetics and superior minds...reminds me too much of the Weimar republic. I've never encountered any information showing that Dylan was immersed in the Jewish faith. But then ...who knows?

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Panz, It may not be factual. I know so little about genetics, but I have observed certain things. If you'll look back, you will note that I said, "..in certain things....".

Superior was a poor choice of words. Perhaps a better word would have been attuned, and as much as I hate to admit it, the ethnic quality that helps certain groups to fit closest to the environment in which they find themselves. Survival in the music business is almost as difficult as surviving in nature.

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That I can agree with.

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Well, for the sake of this gold thread, I suppose I should see if I can remember my Mom's Froggie:

Froggie went a courtin' how he did ride,
UhHuh, UhHuh.
Froggie went a courtin' how he did ride,
Sword and a pistol by his side,
UhHuh.

Went up to Miss Mousie's door,
UhHuh, UhHuh.
Went up to Miss Mousie's door,
Rapped and he rapped til he made it roar,
UnHuh.

and so on and so on and so on.

At the end, the old grey goose and all the creatures get eaten by a big black snake who soon dies with the belly ache.

Ah, such pathos, Mathos. Very Happy

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I'm still here. On a different timezone that's all. Cool

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Panzade:-

He was once asked about being Jewish.A press conference in Rome I think.

He said,"I'm Jewish when I want to be."

I read he was Bar Mitzahed and he's been photographed at the wall in a yarmulke(?).

If you check out Gates of Eden you will find what seems to me to be a contemptuous dismissal of psychoanalysis.

I'm on memory here-

"At dawn my lover comes to me
And tells me of her dreams
With no attempt to shovel the glimpse
Into the ditch of what each one means."

It's an early song and the dismissal (ditch) suggests a religious nature.There are no truths outside the gates of Eden.Have you heard any live versions of What Can I Do For You.

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spendius wrote:

.Have you heard any live versions of What Can I Do For You.

No I haven't, but then I tuned out at the time of Lay Lady Lay.
Thanks for discussing his religious feelings. I'd like to know more.
Especially how growing up Jewish in Hibbing Minnesota affected his writing.

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Edgar is quite knowledgeable about Dylan as this thread points out.

http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3431

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Letty wrote:

<smile> and now from a walrus to a fox to a frog:

Dear Letty:- You have it all, or as Zimmerman said:-

Ah you fake just like a woman, yes, you do
You make love just like a woman, yes, you do
Then you ache just like a woman
But you break just like a little girl.

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panzade wrote:

Edgar is quite knowledgeable about Dylan as this thread points out.

http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3431

Panzade, I concur with you. The interest is quite alarming, in a pleasant manner. It may surprise you to know, I was recently in Chiang Rai northern Thailand and sought overnight accommodation in a pleasant hotel, (The Little Duck). After dinner in The Coffee Shop, a quartet of young Thai's arrived to entertain. They set up their equipment on stage, I was amazed at their quality act, especially when they sang Zimmerman's "Knockin' on heavens door."

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Spendius:- Your knowledge, especially as you quote from memory, is impressive to say the least.
Have you seen Zimmerman live? The question is open to any who have been fortunate enough to have had the priveledge. We seem to be firing on all six.

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strange, Mathos. You and Dylan just about summed me up with one exception. I really don't do any faking, but I do know about fake books. (Jazz style).

edgar is our walking, talking discographer on A2K.

I also noticed that Dylan went through a country phase. Panz and I can really appreciate that as well.

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Letty wrote:

strange, Mathos. You and Dylan just about summed me up with one exception. I really don't do any faking, but I do know about fake books. (Jazz style).

edgar is our walking, talking discographer on A2K.

I also noticed that Dylan went through a country phase. Panz and I can really appreciate that as well.

Explain your 'fake book' theory Letty, and your use of the esperanto, which I have enjoyed, tis a trait unusual and rarely seen. Bravo Dear Lady!

"If it sounds country man, must be country"

Who on earth do you think said those few words?

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Mathos, I will return later to guess and explain. Right now, I have hussy chores to do. Very Happy

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