hamburger wrote:... will canada and australia have to come to the defence of the queen ? hbg
I can't speak for Canada, but I doubt it, hamburger, I doubt it ... :wink:
as you can see in the pix, camilla is in command and charlie boy is carrying out her orders. hbg
It's always been that way hamburger. First his mother was in command over his life, and then Camilla took over.
In essence, it is Queen Moms fault, that he became such
a sissy
I feel impelled to say Miss Jane that your conclusion there is a trifle impulsive.I don't think the gallant Prince can realistically be designated a "sissy".He is not in the least effeminate which is what the word you used means.He may have other faults like the rest of us but being sissy is not one.
I should imagine that a close encounter with the comely Duchess of Cornwall would make most men's knees sound like a busy woodpecker.
Then there's his school,his military career,his farming and his sport none of which are sissy activities.
spendius : i think you are right; charliie is not a sissy. as you said, camilla is just making his knees buckle. he is used being ordered around by women, but that doesn't make him a sissy. hbg
I agree that Charles is many things but not a sissy. Remeber how during a visit to Oz a protester ran up on the stage carrying something (was it a gun?) and was wrestled down by security only feet away from the prince? A sissy would not have kept his compsure and stiff upper lip, but Charles remained unperturbed and did not budge an inch.
So, not necessarily an admirable character, but not a sissy either.
I can't recall that one, but I do remember the famous Oz "bikini girl" episode: an adoring bikini-clad girl jumped out off the sea & a grabbed photo opportunity as Prince Charles passed by on some Oz beach, years ago. He looked a wee bit uncomfortable, but coped!
It wasn't just security - it was the Premier of the State of NSW!
Been a long time since a politician was willing to take a bullet for anyone, less a royal!
"I still believe Charles will not be king, it is his son who
will be groomed for it. Queen Elisabeth will hold out until
William is ready. He seems to have the sense of decency his father is lacking."
The only way Charles will not become king is if he pre deceases his mother, or renounces the thrown.
He will do neither.
The idea of the queen "holding out" until William "is ready" and then abdicating in favour of her grandson is ridiculous, because on her death the throne goes to the first in line, Charles, whether his mother wants it or not. And if she abdicates, there is no constitutional mechanism allowing her to lay down conditions on who becomes king next, it goes to Charles as first in line, thats why its called "first in line".
Steve:
Oh, I never implied that the Queen could pass over her son just by her say-so.
I think that Charles might be persuaded to renounce the throne.
I think Charles' decision to marry Camilla might be a signal that he really doesn't intend to take the throne. I don't think the British public can really envision Charles and Camilla as the King and Queen of England, with all the symbolism that implies, after the Diana fiasco played itself out in the press over the course of years. I think if Charles really planned to take the throne, he would have ended the affair with Camilla, moved on and married someone else less tainted by the past.
If the Queen goes on a few more years, Charles will be 65-retirement age-by the time he gets the chance to ascend to the throne.
The monarchy is getting less and less popular with the British public, so polls show. Charles' behavior during the Diana years is no doubt a big reason why, though there are others, I am sure.
As the son of both Diana and Charles, William will be in a unique position to heal the wounds from that unhappy period. Charles might be persuaded to think of the larger picture, for once, and to give his son a head start on trying to restore respect and confidence in the monarchy.
Surely, Charles is in no position to do that.
If charles did renounce the throne then it would go to the second in line William.
But charles old fashioned, stubborn and completely set in his ways. He has been brought up to believe he will be King. He wants to be King. He is legally entitled to ascend the throne. He will be king God willing. (But not steve willing)
Steve, but what If Queen Mom stroke a deal with him:
he can marry Camilla and has to descend the throne?
I really believe (as a non Brit), that's how it worked.
No chance.
I agree with Steve.Prince Charles wants to be king and if he doesn't predecease The Queen he will be.
The way has been cleared already for the Duchess of Cornwall and it doesn't matter what opinion polls show.
Charles is selfish too.
He wants Camilla
He wants to be Supreme Govenor of the Church of England
He wants to be King.
At one time those three things seemed absolutely incompatible. But thanks to the malleability and contortions of the British Establishment such that they can kiss their own backsides and pronounce it sweet, it looks like he'll get it.
We are quite flexible Steve.It seems to work.
I think it would have been most fitting if the C of E which came into being because a former king wanted a divorce, should be abandoned as the established church because the future king wanted to marry a divorcee in it.
The hypocrisy and double standards are what make it all so entertaining. Expensive for us, but entertaining for the rest of the world
It sells stuff as well.There's another side to it but I don't know which is in credit.My guess is the sales side.
I also think Henry might have had another agenda besides which strumpet he slept with.
It all boils down to raging hormones, the English
obviously can't control to well.
Paaskynen wrote:I agree that Charles is many things but not a sissy. Remeber how during a visit to Oz a protester ran up on the stage carrying something (was it a gun?) and was wrestled down by security only feet away from the prince? A sissy would not have kept his compsure and stiff upper lip, but Charles remained unperturbed and did not budge an inch.
So, not necessarily an admirable character, but not a sissy either.
You do know that Royal's have, "Super Power's?"
There hasn't been a King since the Revolution Period. Which makes me wonder if the next King, William or Charles, may cause some trouble, for the US. I wonder who really caused 9/11.