layman
 
  -2  
Reply Fri 27 Mar, 2020 06:12 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:

that's what they used to say about smallpox and cholera and the plague. It's just nature.. but we got rid of smallpox and cholera and the plague.


That's exactly what I said. Viruses try to kill us, and we try to kill them. That's "natural selection" at work. If nothing else, once the virus kills off all the weaklings, it won't have any human prey left.
RABEL222
 
  2  
Reply Fri 27 Mar, 2020 09:25 pm
@layman,
You mean kill all the people over 65, than we can do away with social security and medicare. Right?
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layman
 
  -2  
Reply Sat 28 Mar, 2020 12:35 am
From Harvard U.:

Quote:
why flu strikes in winter

Why is there a flu season at all? After all, what does a virus living in a host who provides a dependable, cozy incubation chamber of 98°F, care whether it is freezing and snowy outside or warm and sunny? This question has bothered people for a long time, but only recently have we begun to understand the answer.

The flu is highly contagious. Adults are able to spread the virus one day prior to the appearance of symptoms and up to seven days after symptoms begin. The flu is most serious for the elderly, the very young, or people who have a weakened immune system.

A common misconception is that the flu is caused by cold temperatures. In fact, some people have argued that it is not cold temperatures that make the flu more common in the winter. Rather, they attest that the lack of sunlight or the different lifestyles people lead in winter months are the primary contributing factors. Here are the most popular theories about why the flu strikes in winter:

1) During the winter, people spend more time indoors with the windows sealed, so they are more likely to breathe the same air as someone who has the flu and thus contract the virus (3).

2) Days are shorter during the winter, and lack of sunlight leads to low levels of vitamin D and melatonin, both of which require sunlight for their generation. This compromises our immune systems, which in turn decreases ability to fight the virus (3).

3) The influenza virus may survive better in colder, drier climates, and therefore be able to infect more people (3).

For many years, it was impossible to test these hypotheses, since most lab animals do not catch the flu like humans do, and using humans as test subjects for this sort of thing is generally frowned upon.

Around 2007, however, a researcher named Dr. Peter Palese found a peculiar comment in an old paper published after the 1918 flu pandemic. Palese tried infecting a few guinea pigs with influenza, and sure enough, the guinea pigs got sick. Importantly, the virus was transmitted from one guinea pig to another. Now that Palese had a model organism, he was able to begin experiments to get to the bottom of the flu season.

However, Palese’s initial experiment did not explain why the virus was transmitted best at cooler temperatures and low humidity. Palese tested the immune systems of the animals to find out if the immune system functions poorly at low temperatures and low humidity, but he found no difference in innate immunity among the guinea pigs.

....Unfortunately, not much research has been done to explain these contradictory results, so it’s unclear why the flu behaves so differently in disparate environments. This emphasizes the need for continued influenza research. ...we can conclude that, at least in regions that have a winter season, the influenza virus survives longer in cold, dry air, so it has a greater chance of infecting another person. Although other factors probably contribute as well, the main reason we have a flu season may simply be that the influenza virus is happier in cold, dry weather and thus better able to invade our bodies.

The flu season in the U.S. can begin as early as October, but usually does not get into full swing until December. The season generally reaches its peak in February and ends in March.


http://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2014/the-reason-for-the-season-why-flu-strikes-in-winter/

March has damn near done come and gone, know what I'm sayin?

"1) During the winter, people spend more time indoors with the windows sealed, so they are more likely to breathe the same air as someone who has the flu and thus contract the virus."<----Maybe holin up at home aint such a great idea after all, eh?

Wait, this kinda **** is what they call "science," aint it? Science sucks balls. I don't believe a word of it. As I always say:

WE'RE ALL GUNNA DIE, I TELLS YA!


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layman
 
  -2  
Reply Sat 28 Mar, 2020 12:54 am
More suspect "science," eh?

Quote:
Will Warmer Weather Stop the Spread of the Coronavirus?

President Donald Trump suggested in February that springtime temperatures could make COVID-19 “miraculously” go away.

There’s precedent for the idea that the COVID-19 outbreak will collapse with the onset of summer.

The common cold is most prevalent in the winter and spring, and influenza is most common during the fall and winter in the U.S., with flu activity peaking between December and February, according to the CDC.

Several new studies provide some hope that the heat might slow the spread of the virus.

Infectious disease experts say the factors that cause other viruses to retreat during the summer months could affect this coronavirus in a similar way...

An analysis by scientists at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology posted online on Mar. 19, found that the transmission of coronavirus had most frequently occurred in regions with colder annual average temperatures, between about 37° and 63° F. The total number of cases in countries with an average temperature above about 64° F is less than 6%, according to the study. Two other recently published studies draw similar conclusions...


https://time.com/5790880/coronavirus-warm-weather-summer/

Just more lies from Trump, obviously. Like that brilliant reporter asked Trump: "What do you say to people who are afraid?"

Turmp's answer: "I say you're a terrible reporter, that's what I say."

As usual, Trump tried to change the topic in order to hide his lies.

Be afraid. VERY AFRAID.

We're all gunna die, I tells ya!
layman
 
  -1  
Reply Sat 28 Mar, 2020 01:16 am
@layman,
Quote:
Just more lies from Trump, obviously. Like that brilliant reporter asked Trump: "What do you say to people who are afraid?"

Turmp's answer: "I say you're a terrible reporter, that's what I say."


Of course, the reporter displayed his brilliancy with a preface to that question, to wit:

"You're trying to put a positive spin on things. You're misleading the public."

In other words, Trump was obviously lying.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 28 Mar, 2020 01:18 am
@layman,
layman wrote:
The question was how and why.
They use an Airbus A310 MedEvac, the flying intensive care unit of the Bundeswehr.
There are up to six places on board for intensive medical treatment.
In addition, there are 38 more berths, with increased medical monitoring with monitors for 16 patients. Thus 44 patients can be transported lying down.

The medical crew counts up to 25 people. The air force always keeps a MedEvac Airbus on 24-hour standby at Cologne Wahn Airport.
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Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Reply Sat 28 Mar, 2020 01:50 am
It's not only that this about EU-citizens ("pervs" as you call us) but we take humans before America first.

And it has nothing to do with Merkel or the conservatives but with our commitment to our constitution, humanity ... and to the EU treaties
layman
 
  -2  
Reply Sat 28 Mar, 2020 01:57 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

It's not only that this about EU-citizens ("pervs" as you call us) but we take humans before America first.

And it has nothing to do with Merkel or the conservatives but with our commitment to our constitution, humanity ... and to the EU treaties


"Treaties." eh? Well, as Trump done learned from his extensive studies of Hitler, treaties are made to be broken.

Just curious, Walt. Is Germany still inviting in every muslim that can make their way to Germany?
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Reply Sat 28 Mar, 2020 02:07 am
@layman,
Indeed, Hitler, Obama, Clinton, we European pervs ...
layman
 
  -2  
Reply Sat 28 Mar, 2020 02:16 am
@Walter Hinteler,
I read where some environmentalist whacko injected himself with all kinds of virus strains. He knew it would kill him, but he took great pride in protecting endangered species, like those viruses.

Kinda sounds like Germany, know what I'm sayin?
layman
 
  -2  
Reply Sat 28 Mar, 2020 02:38 am
These yellow "journalists" just won't quit, eh?

Quote:
Trump scolds ABC News reporter during tense exchange at White House presser: 'Don't be a cutie pie'

President Trump had some choice words for ABC News White House correspondent Jonathan Karl over the availability of ventilators during Friday's coronavirus press briefing.

Karl asked the president if "everybody who needs a ventilator will get a ventilator" after Trump officially ordered General Motors to make them under the Defense Production Act.

"We've distributed vast numbers of ventilators and we're prepared to do vast numbers. I think we're in great shape. I hope that's the case. I hope that we're going to have leftovers so that we can help other people, other countries," Trump responded.

Karl pressed Trump:"Everyone who needs one will get a ventilator?"

"Look, don't be a cutie pie, okay? You know, 'everyone who needs one,'" the president shot back.... everything I took over was a mess. It was a broken country in so many ways and in so many ways other than this. We had a bad testing system. We had a bad stockpile system. We had nothing in the stockpile system."

He added, "So I wouldn't tell me what, you know, being a wise guy."


Trump then motioned to the Secret Service, who dragged Karl out of the press conference into the alley and pistol-whipped his sorry ass for a good long spell.
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hightor
 
  6  
Reply Sat 28 Mar, 2020 02:44 am
Quote:

I am just posting this for the record. I don't plan to get involved here any further. By and large it's just a complete waste of time. There is no reason to try to "debate" people whose only idea of debate is to attempt to insult, ridicule, and demean anyone who disagrees with their often absurd contentions.
Leadfoot
 
  -3  
Reply Sat 28 Mar, 2020 02:53 am
If I were bet'n, Trump is the voice of reason on CV-19 as far as how to respond. The chickens are liable to run around in circles til they die, even with their heads still attached. That is assuming you want the world to return to 'normal'.
Stay calm, those many old folks (and probably some young ones too) were probably ready to go.
layman
 
  -3  
Reply Sat 28 Mar, 2020 03:01 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

Quote:

I am just posting this for the record. I don't plan to get involved here any further. By and large it's just a complete waste of time. There is no reason to try to "debate" people whose only idea of debate is to attempt to insult, ridicule, and demean anyone who disagrees with their often absurd contentions.



Heh, I 've noticed that cheese-eaters will never make any substantive comments on my counter-narrative posts, eh? They just disappear when confronted with an alternative view of things. They don't debate the facts, they just ignore all inconvenient facts as if they didn't exist.

At the same time, they want to get back to getting high fives from every cheese-eater in their circle jerk. They don't want to just "close shop." So what's the solution?

The usual, they try to make anyone who challenges them disappear, so they can get back to business as usual.

Nice try, cheese-eaters.
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layman
 
  -2  
Reply Sat 28 Mar, 2020 03:14 am
@Leadfoot,
Quote:
Stay calm, those many old folks (and probably some young ones too) were probably ready to go.


Well, Leddy, I've found that you just can't deter drama queens from their histrionics. I guess they can't help it. They're sick.

Quote:
Histrionic Personality Disorder

Histrionic personality disorder is one of a group of conditions called "Cluster B" or "dramatic" personality disorders. People with these disorders have intense, unstable emotions and distorted self-images. The word histrionic means "dramatic or theatrical."

For people with histrionic personality disorder, their self-esteem depends on the approval of others and does not arise from a true feeling of self-worth. They have an overwhelming desire to be noticed, and often behave dramatically or inappropriately to get attention.


https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/histrionic-personality-disorder#1

As with a schizophrenic, it is useless to try to "reason" with them. They don't play dat.
layman
 
  -3  
Reply Sat 28 Mar, 2020 03:25 am
@layman,
Quote:
What Are the Symptoms of Histrionic Personality Disorder?

A person with this disorder might:

Act very dramatically, as though performing before an audience, with exaggerated emotions and expressions, yet appears to lack sincerity.

constantly seek reassurance or approval

Not think before acting

Be excessively sensitive to criticism or disapproval

Be gullible and easily influenced by others


Sounds like most of the cheese-eaters I've run across, sho nuff.
Lash
 
  5  
Reply Sat 28 Mar, 2020 03:56 am
https://www.thecanary.co/global/world-analysis/2020/03/26/us-response-to-coronavirus-is-exposing-its-sociopathically-warped-priorities/
Excerpt:
Having first played down the severity of the coronavirus (Covid-19) pandemic, Donald Trump’s government is now reacting. But as we might expect, pushing major social reform to improve the lives of ordinary people hasn’t exactly been its top priority. Instead, it’s been exposing its truly sociopathic tendencies by exploiting the crisis to further regime-change efforts abroad and corporate welfare at home.
layman
 
  -4  
Reply Sat 28 Mar, 2020 04:06 am
@hightor,
By the way, Hi, I noticed that you ignored this post after making your "America is a dumpster fire," post, eh?:

https://able2know.org/topic/468987-863#post-6979763

What's up with that?
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Walter Hinteler
 
  5  
Reply Sat 28 Mar, 2020 04:25 am
@layman,
layman wrote:
Kinda sounds like Germany, know what I'm sayin?
No. Since your knowledge of Germany certainly is better than mine.
But perhaps you are kind enough to illuminate my dark ignorance and lack of knowledge?
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Leadfoot
 
  1  
Reply Sat 28 Mar, 2020 06:24 am
@Lash,
I would be reluctant to give up the left seat in my plane to the Donald, but I do believe we are more at risk from shoppers trampling us in the paper goods isle, metaphorically speaking.

It will be interesting to revisit this topic in ninety days or so. It will probably fade as quickly as the LasVegas shooter or any other story. No one can focus on anything for that long anymore. Or we'll just get bored with the dead body count on the news, just like in the good ole days of Vietnam et al. At least its mostly old wrinkled people this time. So far we have been spared the scrolling names and pictures of the dead.

And why is that? Oh yeah, they are mostly ugly old sick people. That wouldn’t make for good TV.
 

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