If you think men should help decide if a woman gets an abortion, just shut up.

Guess you don't pay attention to my posts.

My husband had one more than 10 years before we met.

I did, right after your reading your incorrect post about doctors needing receive proof of persmission from the spouse (not some doctors), asked him if he said he needed his then wifes permission to give to the doctor.

His response? "No more than she needed my permission to get pregnant the year before I got the vasectomy done." Which, for what it's worth, wasn't what ended their marriage.

You asked one dude... Well, me and the other 7 guys I know, minus my brother because he was single when he got his done, all had consent forms in their consultation packets when they left the Dr's office. We all had different Dr's, so that isn't the case either.

And if you had stated that, along with whether or not all these 7 other guys signed the consents, and that they were told it was a requirement, your post would have been completely different.

As far as my vasectomy went, I had to have permission from my wife, all of the guys I know who had it done also had to have their spouses permission and in most cases, they wanted you to already have kids because doing a reversal was painful and not always successful. There were signed consent forms indicating her agreement with the procedure, if she had disagreed, the Dr would not have done it.

As you stated it, your meaning was clear that it was a requirement with doctors that it must be signed.

Untrue.

No bubbles burst here that you don't read some or all of my posts. Again, I made a stand alone statement. If you had read at least one of my posts, you would have known I was aquainted with at least one person who has had a vasectomy. You said "ask any men", which includes asking one. Now I guess I need to ask a certain number. No idea how many other men I know who have had vasectomies.

Don't make muddled statements that don't say (apparantly) what you mean, and expect others to understand your meaning.

But then, you wouldn't have all the back and forth fun of explaining and twisting your words to make them work. Which I take is what you're after.

Watch it Chai, next he'll be accusing you of hacking into A2K and editing his posts to make him look like an idiot.

That's what he did when I showed him up.

Every once in a while, someone – usually a man – will ask if men should “have a say” in a woman’s decisions about abortion. So sure, guys, yammer away all you want. It’s a free country.

But under no circumstances should men have any legal rights over women’s pregnancies.