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If you think men should help decide if a woman gets an abortion, just shut up.

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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jul, 2018 12:03 pm
@maporsche,
maporsche wrote:
Yeah, you're a paragon of virtue and honesty.
/sarcasm
No need for sarcasm since that statement is true.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jul, 2018 12:09 pm
@maporsche,
maporsche wrote:
You are wrong. That is all. I won't try to explain to you how, but everyone here can see.
You won't try to explain how because you can't point out a single thing that I'm wrong about.

You just think that bluffing about imaginary errors will obscure the fact that I'm right while you beat a hasty retreat.
maporsche
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jul, 2018 12:18 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

maporsche wrote:
You are wrong. That is all. I won't try to explain to you how, but everyone here can see.
You won't try to explain how because you can't point out a single thing that I'm wrong about.

You just think that bluffing about imaginary errors will obscure the fact that I'm right while you beat a hasty retreat.


Keep on keeping on oralloy.

You know why geniuses don't have to go on telling people how high their IQs are but little people who think they're big people have to remind people over and over and over?

It's a rhetorical question. You don't have to answer.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jul, 2018 01:15 pm
@oralloy,
So What's your problem with the pills? Why should women do without contraception?
ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jul, 2018 01:27 pm
@maporsche,
maporsche wrote:

You are wrong. That is all. I won't try to explain to you how, but everyone here can see.


yup

100%
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jul, 2018 01:48 pm
@maporsche,
maporsche wrote:
You know why geniuses don't have to go on telling people how high their IQs are but little people who think they're big people have to remind people over and over and over?
The only person who keeps talking about IQ here is you.

I only address my superiority over you when you bring up the subject.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jul, 2018 01:49 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:
So What's your problem with the pills?
Who says I have a problem with birth control pills?

Olivier5 wrote:
Why should women do without contraception?
Why should men?
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jul, 2018 01:50 pm
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:
maporsche wrote:
You are wrong. That is all. I won't try to explain to you how, but everyone here can see.
yup
100%
I call your bluff. You cannot point out a single thing that I am wrong about.
chai2
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jul, 2018 01:56 pm
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:



sex

people like to have sex

if they don't want to have children as a result, they need to have birth control options

sex

sex is a good thing

it's a fun thing

it should be encouraged for consenting adults

sex

sex is a healthy thing - physically and emotionally

a variety of birth control options is a good thing

__



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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jul, 2018 02:21 pm
@oralloy,
hon - there are pages of posts by people proving that you were wrong about innumerable things - they've been proving it for years

literally innumerable

Sceletera has recently been doing a superb job of it.

__

your regular "I'm xxx times smarter than x" routine which results when you get upset about being proven wrong is the reason I generally leave you unread. Looks like we're going back to that happy place.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jul, 2018 02:23 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
my superiority over you


right on schedule
Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jul, 2018 02:39 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
Who says I have a problem with birth control pills?

Alright, so you have no objection in principle to birth control pills. Thanks for clearing that up.

Olivier5 wrote:
Why should women do without contraception?
Quote:
Why should men?


Men shouldn't and aren't.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jul, 2018 02:43 pm
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:
hon - there are pages of posts by people proving that you were wrong about innumerable things - they've been proving it for years
literally innumerable
If that were true, you would be able to provide examples. I call your bluff. You can't provide any such examples.

ehBeth wrote:
Sceletera has recently been doing a superb job of it.
Sceletera pointed out a single error on my part, on a minor point that didn't really impact the main point of contention (which I was still correct about). This occurrence was some time ago, and not at all recent.

Although, I guess "recent" is subjective.

You cannot provide any other examples of Sceletera proving that I am wrong.

ehBeth wrote:
your regular "I'm xxx times smarter than x" routine which results when you get upset about being proven wrong
That is doubly wrong.

First, I do not get upset on the extremely rare occasions when someone demonstrates that I am wrong about something.

Second, my regular "I'm xxx times smarter than x" routine does not come when people prove me wrong. It comes when people make an untrue statement about my intellect.

ehBeth wrote:
is the reason I generally leave you unread. Looks like we're going back to that happy place.
Let the record show that you did not point out a single instance of me being wrong when I called your bluff.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jul, 2018 02:44 pm
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:
right on schedule
When people make untrue statements about me, I feel that it is reasonable for me to set the record straight.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jul, 2018 02:49 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:
Alright, so you have no objection in principle to birth control pills.
Correct.

Olivier5 wrote:
Thanks for clearing that up.
You're welcome.

Olivier5 wrote:
Men shouldn't and aren't.
That is incorrect. Men currently are not provided a reliable method of birth control.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jul, 2018 02:52 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
Men currently are not provided a reliable method of birth control.

Yes they are: condoms.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jul, 2018 02:54 pm
@Olivier5,
If the use of condoms is good enough, then there is no need for birth control pills and abortions. Women can get by with condom use too.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jul, 2018 02:59 pm
@oralloy,
Women may wish to not depend on men's forms of birth control and vice versa. The important thing is that any individual, male or female, should be able to control his/her own personal fertility.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jul, 2018 03:03 pm
@Olivier5,
Before men are able to control their fertility, there will have to be a serious effort to provide the means for them to do so.

At the moment there is not much of an effort on that front.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jul, 2018 03:09 pm
@oralloy,
You're welcome to put your money where your mouth is and help fund research into male contraception. Meanwhile, I for one use condoms regularly, and can assure you that they work.
 

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