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911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB OUR NATION IS IN PERIL

 
 
kickycan
 
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Reply Mon 20 Dec, 2004 02:54 pm
Rafick wrote:
Iam not here to convince you people about any theories or Conspiracies just here to speak my mind, i though i might get some intelligent responses back guess i was wrong, you cant get blood out of stone.


Just wondering. How much intelligence does it take to cut and paste some crap that you found on the internet? I'm pretty damn stupid, but I bet even I can do that.
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Rafick
 
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Reply Mon 20 Dec, 2004 02:59 pm
Facts are Facts dont matter where they come from,


you belive that there is a moon above the sky without going there and touching it right? cuz you can see, so why not open your eyes.

download the videos and watch before you speak.
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Rafick
 
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Reply Mon 20 Dec, 2004 03:05 pm
kickycan wrote:
Rafick wrote:
Iam not here to convince you people about any theories or Conspiracies just here to speak my mind, i though i might get some intelligent responses back guess i was wrong, you cant get blood out of stone.


Just wondering. How much intelligence does it take to cut and paste some crap that you found on the internet? I'm pretty damn stupid, but I bet even I can do that.


Well i beat you to it, your to slow wonder why? Confused

there are many people out there that might find this place and say "wow i didnt know this" google search brings you right here do you get the point Smile
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Mon 20 Dec, 2004 03:14 pm
A silly-lookin' outfit is a silly lookin' outfit, whether the wearer is silly or not, Rafik. Whats bein' hit with criticism here is not so much you, but rather more your haberdasher. Seems most folks here don't shop the same places you do.
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Slappy Doo Hoo
 
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Reply Mon 20 Dec, 2004 03:19 pm
The Jews?

I thought it was the Ninjas from WESSIDE! who did it.
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Rafick
 
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Reply Mon 20 Dec, 2004 03:20 pm
The only way to find out the truth behind "all this crap" is to ask questions and hope for Intelligent answers that might destroy the Conspiracy theories, but so far only 1-2 people have bothered..
No need to be shy it wont hurt to find out the truth Smile
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Rafick
 
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Reply Mon 20 Dec, 2004 03:24 pm
so go ahead and try answer some of the questions Smile
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 20 Dec, 2004 03:25 pm
Ninja's... heh.
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kickycan
 
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Reply Mon 20 Dec, 2004 03:27 pm
Rafick, your real name wouldn't happen to be Xior, would it?
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Mon 20 Dec, 2004 03:31 pm
Just for argument sake, Rafick, you realize, of course, that a person can find anything he or she wants on the internet. The key is knowing what's fact and what's speculation.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Mon 20 Dec, 2004 03:34 pm
where is my dignity then? I've been searching for years....
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Rafick
 
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Reply Mon 20 Dec, 2004 03:34 pm
e.g
1, Given the absence of any DNA evidence, and the use of false passports by the hijackers, how was the government able to come up with the list of 19 names so quickly?

2,Regarding the 19 suspected hijackers...why is it that none of them appeared on the original passenger lists of the airlines.

3,How come all the passport survived the crash, where as the voice recorder didn't?

The evidence is such that the only people we can be sure DID NOT carry out the WTC bombing are the Arabs

1) The WTC attack, described as brilliantly planned and executed by professionals, who some how forget to acquire (easily obtainable) false driver's licenses for identification and, if you can believe it (and most people can not) used their real names when boarding the aircraft. The FBI suspect list was comprised using the assumption that those on the passenger lists had used their real names (real smart,.. these guys really earn their money eh?).

2, These same professionals, leave a car at an airport (which is found within hours of the attack,.. what a surprise!) with incriminating documents (a flight training manual in Arabic). Professionals, (actually any sane persons) not wanting their "ground support" to be compromised, would take taxis to the airports.

3, When it is established that many, if not all the hi-jackers were using false identities the FBI suspect list did not change (yeah, morons run the FBI).

4,One of the accused carries a passport on an internal flight (in case he wants to travel overseas after the attack).

5,This passport, originally in the accuseds luggage or on his person, rips through the suitcase or jacket, survives the fireball, punches a hole through the WTC and then flutters to the ground a few blocks away. Fortunately, the passport had the name of the accused on it and is generally in great condition, although apparently somewhat muddy.

6,One of the accused (Mohammed Atta) packs a suitcase (in case he wants to visit relatives for a few days after the attack) with a "how to be a terrorist in the US" document (just part of the professionalism, mentioned above) that just happens not to be loaded on the plane (so that the incriminating document survives,.. what a surprise!).

7,Mohammed Atta travels to Portland Maine to fly to Boston (why not drive straight to Boston) and transfer to the suicide flight. This is utterly unbelievable. This introduces a huge potential problem. What happens if his flight is delayed. How embarrassing for the so called leader of the terrorists, if he can't make his connection. That would throw a spanner in the works. Transferring flights like this offers no upside but huge downside, and is considerable evidence that Atta has been framed

8, And do not forget that phone calls were made from the planes blamed the hijacking on Israelis (actually, they used the words "middle eastern looking" but we all know that many Israelis are very Arab looking).

These laughable "facts" which all point to the Arabs can be viewed as strong evidence that the WTC was not carried out by the Arabs. These nonsense "facts" all point to an event where someone is being framed.

etc etc etc...
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Rafick
 
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Reply Mon 20 Dec, 2004 03:38 pm
D'artagnan wrote:
Just for argument sake, Rafick, you realize, of course, that a person can find anything he or she wants on the internet. The key is knowing what's fact and what's speculation.


Good thing iam trying to get everything in one place Smile
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Mon 20 Dec, 2004 03:43 pm
Whether or not them two get the same grin back from the shavin' mirror, Kicky ... writin' style and subject choice and treatment seem pretty different to me ... they do seem to favor the same cut of cloth, don't they?
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Rafick
 
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Reply Mon 20 Dec, 2004 03:48 pm
i got to do some real work soon so hope to see some good answers tomorrow Smile
leave you with a poem..

Prime of Life

Life is so fragile, gone in a wink,
all that was visible, right down the sink.
Searching for answers that will never be found,
find only questions, with meanings profound.

Taken with wonder about how could this be,
gone is our innocence ...a gross tragedy.
Right at this moment, in the prime of our life,
our symbols of majesty ~ taken down so precise.

Why did this happen ...to achieve martyrdom?
something so final that can't be undone.
The question arises that is unbearably sad,
those refused life's ambitions, when clearly prepared.

Fairness is absent and fate intervenes,
has karma been finished behind all the scenes?
Looking for meaning that's been lost in absurd,
angels are singing with sounds still unheard...

The message must be to somebody else,
gain wisdom & insight inside of yourself.
Compassion or vengeance ...the time has begun,
and it started like clockwork as we reached 911.

Smile bye
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Mon 20 Dec, 2004 03:51 pm
Rafick wrote:
Good thing iam trying to get everything in one place Smile


I s'pose that beats leavin' the crap scattered all over the place ... makes it easier to avoid. Still, watchin this kinda thing unfold is sorta like drivin' by a nasty car wreck - ya know ya ain't gonna like - or benefit from - what you're likely to see, but ya just can't help slowin' down and starin' at it anyhow.
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Mon 20 Dec, 2004 03:53 pm
Agreed. But Rafick says he as to do "some real work soon" (sounds ominous) so we'll be without these gems for a while, I guess...
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Mon 20 Dec, 2004 03:53 pm
Don't pay any attention to them Rafick, I have it on good information that Timber, Farmerman and Kicky all forget to wear their hats at night. Keep wearing yours

http://www.osmond-riba.org/lis/graphics/Tinfoil1.jpg



and you'll stay one step in front of them.

http://www.cnn.com/interactive/us/0004/army.helicopters/mh.6.little.bird.jpg
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Mon 20 Dec, 2004 03:58 pm
Don't forget the guys in black suits, narrow ties, spit-shined shoes, and dark glasses, either, O'Bill.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Mon 20 Dec, 2004 04:00 pm
timberlandko wrote:
Don't forget the guys in black suits, narrow ties, spit-shined shoes, and dark glasses, either, O'Bill.


timber, are you getting jiggy with it or something?
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