sorry let me correct my mistake:
not ONE of the EIGHT black boxes - two per plane - survived!
I have zero belief in your theory rafick. But there are a lot of people in this forum who love the muslims and love the suicide bombing culture they bring, and would simply do anything to believe that it wasn't their poor little suicide bombers who did the deed. So, all you have to do is to sell your story to them rafick. It will be like giving candy to a baby.
Do you know the kind of crash these black boxes are designed to withstand? almost indestructible
http://www.ntsb.gov/aviation/cvr_fdr.htm
australia wrote:I have zero belief in your theory rafick.
DOWNLOAD : 911 IN PLANE SITE (104 MB)
http://www.septembereleventh.org/forum/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=2018&page=&view=&sb=5&o=
the proof is in the pudding :
What about the bali bombings rafick? That was the Australian government I suppose.
I read the article. It is 100% pure bullshit.
I can't say for the twin towers because i wasn't there but the bali article is bullshit.
It's good to see that there are causes that can bring us together and agree on.
I wonder who would go to the trouble of writing that bullshit on the websites he promotes. I suppose there a few gullible people would believe it.
Thanks mcgentrix. Hope your having a good day.
There were folks who were convinced Grant set Custer up, and folks who insist the geologic and fossil evidence of the origins of life are a fraud, that Roosevelt engineered Pearl Harbor, who deny the Holocaust happened, or insist that Stalin's purges never happened, that this, that or another outfit had Kennedy killed by this that or another number of assassns for this, that, or another of reasons, that "The Government" has been in contact with "Aliens" for over half a century, who say the Moon Landings were staged, that flouride in drinking water is a communist plot, that Reagan pulled the strings for the Iranian Revolution, that Mars once had a thriving civilization, and folks who feel Michael Moore is a serious documentarian, and that a vast Republican plot stole yet another election from the Democrats. Note I said folks who were "convinced", who "insist", who "say", who "feel" - the word "think" simply doesn't apply. The more preposterous the notion, the more outlandish the claim, the more passionate an audience it will gain. The oil comapnies are supressing the hundred-mile-per-gallon carburetor. Magic bracelets cure arthritis. This pill, that powder, or another potion will enhance your body, restore your potency, improve your memory, irresistably attract the opposite sex. A wonder plan will make you rich with no more effort on your part than sticking stamps on a few envelopes. Some anonymous Nigerian will gift you a fortune if only you'll help spirit unclaimed millions from the country. AIDS is a government genocide plot. "Someone to be trusted" sent this "Important warning" about a "Dangerous virus" you will find on your computer and which you must delete immediately.
There is little point confronting such folks, pointing out the error and absurdity of their particular cherished notion; that it appeals to them is all the foundation such pap needs to be taken as incontestible dogma, and any who oppose the notions are participating in the evil plot to harm us all. Offering such folks facts, evidence, logic and reason is like trying to fight a forrest fire with gasoline.
Re: Just Wondering...
Excellent questions .... let me tell you some of my theories. I have other theories as well, but these are the most germane to the questions you've asked:
[quote="Rafick"]OK so why did they leave out are a multitude of serious questions about what actually happened on 9/11, and questions the official explanation completely fails to raise, let alone answer:
1. Why is there no evidence of any of the supposed hijackers actually being on any of the flights, or indeed any firm facts about who they were? (almost half have turned up alive or were dead before 9/11) [/quote]
Of course many will point to those photos of Mohamed Atta and that other "supposed terrorist" with him at the Boston airport as they boarded the doomed plane. I had initially thought they were innocent passengers the government just decided to pin the blame on, but I'm now convinced they were set up in flight school by the government. And I've also thought it possible that they never actually got on the plane at all that day. In fact, now that you mention it, it's probable that they were killed by the government before the flight. That would make sense. I doubt they would let them live - after all, they might talk.
[quote="Rafick"]2. What is the significance of the seismic activity at the *beginning* of each collapse of the WTC towers (i.e., before the debris hit the ground)?[/quote]
Well, if there was seismic activity prior to the collapse of the towers, and I must admit this is the first I've heard of it, I can only assume it was probably the small nuclear devices that were planted by the government at the base of each tower.
[quote="Rafick"]3. Why do the details of the WTC collapses provided by the official story openly conflict with laws of physics and thermodynamics? [/quote]
Exactly. All the "so-called" structural engineers who have come up with theories for how it makes sense that huge airliners loaded with jet fuel traveling at high speeds could cause the collapses -- you know, the super-heating of the lateral steel supports by the jet fuel which ultimately weakened the structure to the point it just pancaked down on top of itself -- makes no sense to me. I think a small nucear device was detonated at the base of each tower. I haven't worked out how that didn't cause a big explosion at the base, but I know there is an explanation for that. (And I haven't ruled out that an explosion at the base didn't occur. The non-happening of a base explosion hasn't been proven to my satisfaction.) The point being that airplanes with hijackers didn't cause the buildings to come down ... the government did.
[quote="Rafick"]Why did Building 7 fall? [/quote]
Small thermo-nuclear device planted at its base.
[quote="Rafick"]4. Where are the remnants of Flight 77, which supposedly hit the Pentagon? [/quote]
Flight 77 never hit the Pentagon ... that was a missile. Flight 77 either: (A) never actually existed, in which case the "supposed" passengers on the flight were probably killed by the government when they got on that "supposed" flight, or (B) Fllight 77 was diverted over the Atlantic where it was taken out by a missile so there would be no witnesses. Any "supposed telephone calls" made by "supposed passengers" on that flight were prerecorded prior to all this taking place. The level of sophisticated planning that went into the 9/11 plan was amazing, when you think about it.
[quote="Rafick"]And how did a soft-nose airliner go through six containment walls? [/quote]
It didn't. Any "so-called" expert who tries to explain convoluted theories of mass and speed to account for the destruction at the Pentagon is full of beans. Any witnesses who say they saw a plane flying towards the Pentagon that morning are plants by the government. It was struck by a missile.
[quote="Rafick"]The hole in the Pentagon is too small for an airliner, so what actually hit the building? [/quote]
A missile ... a small missile.
[quote="Rafick"]5. What is the story behind the alleged hijackers, and their activities at Florida flight schools connected to the U.S. military/intelligence? (www.madcowprod.com) [/quote]
I've already established that these "alleged hijackers" never actually got on the planes that day. They were killed before hand. I think US military/intelligence must have set them up at these Florida flight schools in order to establish an elaborate story so they could try and pin the "supposed hijackings" on them. Then they had them killed before they got on the "supposed flights."
I'm not fully convinced of any of my theories, mind you, and I'm rather convinced the Jews had a big role to play in planning this elaborate ruse -- they are cunning. Keep up the good work ....
[/sarcastic therapy session for Rafick]
Actually, if you must know, the whole deal was engineered by folks with a grudge against the investment firm Marsh and McLennan. The other WTC tower, the Pennsylvania crash, the Pentagon strike, the whole terrorism angle, and the attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq are nothing more nor less than parts of the incredibly well-thought-out and effective coverup conspiracy. But havin' told ya this, I really gotta kill ya all now. Nothin' personal, mind ya - just business. Hope you'll unnerstand.
Please step away from the furniture.
Without getting into detail, as I'm about to walk out the door, I'd recommend that people watch the film before knocking it, despite the, shall we say, interesting theories put forth by our newest member.
There are some excellent points raised in the film, and it's a very serious work.
Cycloptichorn
The really sad thing is that so many people...were this to come to light as an inside job...and I'm not saying I believe it was necessarily, would not be greatly surprised....I can remember a time when the government had our trust.....
Oh, I've seen the film, and others of similar slant, and FLASH and PowerPoint presentations, and have read all sortsa related rantin', wild-eyed, breathless speculation. There certainly are questions unanswered by "The Official Version", but those questions are neither addressed nor answered by the Chicken Little crowd.
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:The really sad thing is that so many people...were this to come to light as an inside job...and I'm not saying I believe it was necessarily, would not be greatly surprised....I can remember a time when the government had our trust.....
to an extent anyway :wink:
I read on the internet that Santa is just one big bastard conspiracy. Perpetrated by the government, parents and the toy industry. Anyone who subscribes to this theory is seriously mental. They say he doesn't eat the mince pie (ya Dad does), they say he couldn't possibly deliver to all the boys and girls in one night (what about quantum theory?).
Just think of the effort involved! They'd have to make up songs about Santa and get everyone in the world to sing them. They'd have to give him a name in every language!
No, no, it beggers belief, and I'm not that gullible! :wink:
Sarah Santa is, of course, an anagram of Satan. Coincidence? I think not.......
Satan baby, put a sable under the tree........
