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Why I left the Democratic Party

 
 
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Fri 27 Apr, 2018 04:07 pm
As I see it, both parties ought to be in jail. That or wipe the slate clean and get some honest elections underway. Honest elections in any case.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 28 Apr, 2018 06:36 pm
https://youtu.be/JjaB2lKvYbM

CIA, FBI, 1968

Robert Kennedy
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 28 Apr, 2018 07:38 pm
@Lash,
Can't go through Bobby's murder again. Memory's still too raw.
Lash
 
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Reply Sat 28 Apr, 2018 07:46 pm
@edgarblythe,
I can’t do it with dry eyes either, but he reminds me so much of Bernie. I want to remind myself.

Did you know that Sirhan was pointing his weapon from the front, and the fatal wounds were at point-blank range from behind him?

I didn’t.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 28 Apr, 2018 07:56 pm
@Lash,
I didn't remember that, but I recall he was quoted in something I read, before that night, "There are bullets between me an the White House." Just as with Kennedy and King, I always believed there is a wider conspiracy than random murders of these figures.
Lash
 
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Reply Sun 29 Apr, 2018 06:52 am
@edgarblythe,
Same.

It’s more than a little chilling that both Bobby Kennedy and King were hellbent on social and economic justice — as is Bernie — and both Kennedys were intent on busting up the corrupt powers in the CIA.

I think at best, the CIA stood aside and allowed assassinations; at worst, made sure they were successful.

That unelected, unaccountable power still does at it pleases.


If you have access to the Netflix show, I recommend it.

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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 30 Apr, 2018 11:06 am
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:

The thought occurs that the Democrats refusing pac money, certain ones, may have secret deals to get paid off when they win.

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revelette1
 
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Reply Mon 30 Apr, 2018 06:10 pm
Quote:
Ever since Republicans passed the biggest overhaul of the United States tax code in over three decades, there have been a flurry of reports detailing just how much corporations and the ultra-wealthy will benefit from the GOP tax law.

The Senate Finance Committee even held hearings last week on the initial impacts Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, with Democrat lawmakers raising fears the legislation is too skewed toward corporate America.

Americans For Tax Fairness, a political advocacy group devoted to tax reform, released a report last week analyzing the tax bill’s effect on the pharmaceutical industry. Big Pharma stands to reap billions of dollars from the tax bill, and not a penny of that will “trickle down” to American workers, according to the report.

Tax cut estimates have only been released for five of the ten largest pharmaceutical companies in the United States, but when it comes to those five, a savings of $6.3 billion dollars is potentially in their future.


More at TP

Remember most democrats didn't vote for the tax overhaul when you start to say both parties are the same, clearly they are not.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 30 Apr, 2018 06:28 pm
In rhetoric they are not, but this stuff always passes, even when they need just enough Democrats to get draconian measures passed.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 1 May, 2018 07:36 am
By Bill Maher

The recent gun control protests made everyone feel good for a day, but I wouldn’t expect gun control anytime soon. Like any prey animal, a politician’s primary motivation is self-preservation, and the really formative event for office holders and gun control didn’t happen in Washington, March 24th or on school campuses April 20th; it happened in Pennsylvania’s 18th congressional district on March 13th. That’s when Democrat Conor Lamb flipped a Trump seat with a campaign that started with an ad where he fired an AR-15, while the voiceover said he “still loves to shoot.”

Lamb’s position on school killings? “I think that the emotions that a lot of us are feeling right now are very raw because we know that there's not one thing we can do with the stroke of a pen or one thing you can ban. We need a comprehensive answer on mental health.”

And the old NRA favorite: “I believe we have a pretty good law on the books…”

At a Lamb rally, United Mine Workers President Cecil Roberts called Lamb a "God-fearing, union-supporting, gun-owning Democrat.”

The Democrats eked out a victory by less than 700 votes by communicating to single-issue, gun rights voters that they had nothing to fear from Conor Lamb. They could go back to fearing black people, the UN and fluoride. That’s a narrow margin – 0.2% – and Lamb did it by taking gun control off the table. By saying strengthen background checks – whatever that means – and making a Mike Pence serious-face about “mental health.”

That’s what we learned in March.
revelette1
 
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Reply Tue 1 May, 2018 08:08 am
@edgarblythe,
I had my questions about Conor Lamb from the start for precisely the reasons stated by Bill Maher. I understood the choice, a more left leaning democrat would not have stood a chance in that district. (Lamb seems to be as far right as you can get without being republican excluding his views on unions)

I am going to try once again to explain why I feel you are wrong to focus on single issues with a couple of lite republican democrats rather than the power of having a majority in the house and the senate and mostly a democrat President. It comes to down to what legislation gets on the floor for a vote and the Supreme Court judges. I know you understand this without me going through it again. I just wish you agreed.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 1 May, 2018 09:03 am
@revelette1,
It won't help. As I said many times before, it's slow poison with one party and a big crash with the other. Increments just make Democrats look weak and ineffectual and provide an excuse for failure.
revelette1
 
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Reply Tue 1 May, 2018 09:45 am
@edgarblythe,
Not sure it matters to you, you probably don't pay attention, but I thumbed you up again. I respect your honestly held position even if I disagree.

And actually other than costing votes which hurt the democrat agenda and judges, the Bernie Sander's wing of the party (like that title more) keeps my party (democrat) more to the left. I suppose because they see more support for liberal positions than has been the case since when? Was it the nineties or eighties when the US started leaning more conservative?
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 1 May, 2018 09:52 am
@revelette1,
I respect your positions more than you may realize. I just got pushed to the brink and have become a (nonviolent) revolutionary. Revolutionaries rarely reform.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Wed 2 May, 2018 12:18 pm
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/how-to-stop-trump/

Gage Skidmore

Why did working class voters choose a selfish, thin-skinned, petulant, lying, narcissistic, boastful, megalomaniac for president?

With the 2018 midterms around the corner, and prospective Democratic candidates already eyeing the 2020 race, the answer is important because it will influence how Democrats campaign.

One explanation focuses on economic hardship. The working class fell for Trump’s economic populism.

A competing explanation – which got a boost this week from a study published by the National Academy of Sciences – dismisses economic hardship, and blames it on whites’ fear of losing status to blacks and immigrants. They were attracted to Trump’s form of identity politics – bigotry.

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If Democrats accept the bigotry explanation, they may be more inclined to foster their own identity politics of women, blacks, and Latinos. And they’ll be less inclined to come up with credible solutions to widening inequality and growing economic insecurity.

Yet the truth isn’t found in one explanation or the other. It’s in the interplay between the two.

Certainly many white working class men and women were – and still are – receptive to Trump’s bigotry.

But what made them receptive? Racism and xenophobia aren’t exactly new to American life. Fears of blacks and immigrants have been with us since the founding of the Republic.

What changed was the economy. Since the 1980s the wages and economic prospects of the typical American worker have stagnated. Two-thirds now live paycheck to paycheck, and those paychecks have grown less secure.

Good-paying jobs have disappeared from vast stretches of the land. Despite the official low unemployment rate, millions continue to work part-time who want steady jobs or they’re too discouraged to look for work.

When I was Secretary of Labor in the 1990s, I frequently visited the Rust Belt, Midwest, and South, where blue-collar workers told me they were working harder than ever but getting nowhere.

Meanwhile, all the economy’s gains have gone to the richest ten percent, mostly the top 1 percent. Wealthy individuals and big corporations have, in turn, invested some of those gains into politics.

As a result, big money now calls the shots in Washington – obtaining subsidies, tax breaks, tax loopholes (even Trump promised to close the “carried interest” loophole yet it remains), and bailouts.

The near meltdown of Wall Street in 2008 precipitated a recession that cost millions their jobs, homes, and savings. But the Street got bailed out and not a single Wall Street executive went to jail.

The experience traumatized America. In the two years leading up to the 2016 election, I revisited many of the places I had visited when I was labor secretary. People still complained of getting nowhere, but now they also told me the system was “rigged” against them.

A surprising number said they planned to vote for Bernie Sanders or Donald Trump – the two anti-establishment candidates who promised to “shake up” Washington.

This whole story might have been different had Democrats done more to remedy wage stagnation and widening inequality when they had the chance.

Instead, Bill Clinton was a pro-growth “New Democrat” who opened trade with China, deregulated Wall Street, and balanced the budget. (I still have some painful scars from that time.)

Obama bailed out the banks but not homeowners. Obamacare, while important to the poor, didn’t alleviate the financial stresses on the working class, particularly in states refused to expand Medicaid.

In the 2016 election Hillary Clinton offered a plethora of small-bore policy proposals – all sensible but none big enough to make a difference.

Into this expanding void came Trump’s racism and xenophobia – focusing the cumulative economic rage on scapegoats that had nothing to do with its causes. It was hardly the first time in history a demagogue has used this playbook.

If America doesn’t respond to the calamity that’s befallen the working class, we’ll have Trumps as far as the eye can see.

A few Democrats are getting the message – pushing ambitious ideas like government-guaranteed full employment, single-payer health care, industry-wide collective bargaining, and a universal basic income.

But none has yet offered a way to finance these things, such as a progressive tax on wealth.

Nor have they offered a credible way to get big money out of politics. Even if “Citizens United” isn’t overruled, big money’s influence could be limited with generous public financing of elections, full disclosure of the source of all campaign contributions, and a clampdown on the revolving door between business and government.

Trump isn’t the cause of what’s happened to America. He’s the consequence – the product of years of stagnant wages and big money’s corruption of our democracy.

If they really want to stop Trump and prevent future Trumps, Democrats will need to address these causes of Trump’s rise.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Wed 2 May, 2018 07:38 pm
https://scontent.fhou1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/31143745_1313393042138806_532245097347853045_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=89be6bfa9d70345016d64c7a04402860&oe=5B635ED9
Lash
 
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Reply Wed 2 May, 2018 08:48 pm
@edgarblythe,
I’m ready to go when somebody comes up with a good answer.
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Thu 3 May, 2018 12:45 am
@edgarblythe,
That's not very useful, now is it? It's a cynical and false message.
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Lash
 
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Reply Thu 3 May, 2018 04:38 am
Yes, and Bastille Day was just a bunch of rabble, looking for trouble.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 3 May, 2018 04:47 am
@Lash,
There was no Bastille Day when they stormed the Bastille. That came later.
 

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