Bush supporters' aftermath thread

DontTreadOnMe wrote:

if you're gonna be down pacific beach way, you might want to drop down to o.b.(ocean beach, that is ), if you've never been there. i haven't been there in a gazillion years, but that was the first place i lived out here. went from conservative louisville to living in an apartment building that backed up to the beach by the pier.

Hey, DTOM! We spent one morning watching the surfers at Sunset Cliffs, then went to Ocean Beach and had lunch at Hodad's (under 90 million sold) LOL!!

Weather was PERFECT! (except the water temp which was 59 degrees, and too cold for this surfer-gal LOL)! I'll wait 'til this summer. Laughing

Hope your Christmas was the merriest ever!

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JustWonders wrote:

DontTreadOnMe wrote:
if you're gonna be down pacific beach way, you might want to drop down to o.b.(ocean beach, that is ), if you've never been there. i haven't been there in a gazillion years, but that was the first place i lived out here. went from conservative louisville to living in an apartment building that backed up to the beach by the pier.

Hey, DTOM! We spent one morning watching the surfers at Sunset Cliffs, then went to Ocean Beach and had lunch at Hodad's (under 90 million sold) LOL!!

Weather was PERFECT! (except the water temp which was 59 degrees, and too cold for this surfer-gal LOL)! I'll wait 'til this summer.

Hope your Christmas was the merriest ever!

thanks j.w. ! 'twas a very merry, indeed.

it really is unbelievably beautiful down there. and way more layed back than here in l.a.

sounds like you are safely back now. good thing for you too. today we have the beginnings of "the first big storm of the winter". translation; more than a dozen drops within the same square mile. that's cool. my yard looks sooo much better when it's green! sprinklers just aren't the same.

glad you're back and had a great time.
Very Happy

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http://www.coxandforkum.com/archives/04.12.28.NewYear05-X.gif

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Lock the doors Tico... I need to shout this at no one in particular. :wink:

IDIOT!

Ahhhhm that's better. Laughing

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Well, I'm glad that's out of your system! Laughing

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OOH-RAH, Tico!

Laughing

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<<Thwaps O'Bill fer wakin' me up!!!

[size=7]<<Thwaps self fer drinkin' hot sake (lol)[/size]

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JustWonders wrote:

<<Thwaps O'Bill fer wakin' me up!!!

[size=7]<<Thwaps self fer drinkin' hot sake (lol)[/size]

Hot sake? You mean some people drink it cold? Shocked

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OCCOM BILL wrote:

Hot sake? You mean some people drink it cold?

COLD SAKE A Hot Drink

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Them some sick bastards there Walter Shocked

... but a handy link. Theoretically, I now know how to gage the quality of Sake by something other than the price, thanks.

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Walter Hinteler wrote:

OCCOM BILL wrote:
Hot sake? You mean some people drink it cold?

COLD SAKE A Hot Drink

You're a treasure, Walter. I may never drink sake again (hot or cold).

I do feel better after several gallons of water (lol).

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Double-edged politics
Suzanne Fields

January 3, 2005

We've said goodbye to the old guy with a scythe (and a sigh), and the new baby will require the usual discipline and hard work. We've got 365 days to get it done if we want to finish this year.

Democrats had hoped that by this time in the new year their days would be full of planning for inaugural balls, buying new outfits and dealing with caterers, but all those limousines they reserved might as well be pumpkins. Like Cinderella's stepsisters, Democrats are sorting through the ashes for clues to what went wrong. You don't need magic to figure out why a flat foot won't fit into a high-heeled glass slipper.

Surveys taken at the party conventions in Boston and New York revealed that 14 percent of the Democrats had once been Republicans - and 28 percent of the Republicans had once been Democrats. This underreported fact is both fascinating and revealing, and you only have to look around you to see the statistic come to life. Smaller numbers of Hispanics voted for the Democratic nominee in '04, and even blacks and Jews, once the most unreconstructible of all Democrats, voted for George W. Bush in greater numbers than four years earlier.

Democrats started hitting the sawdust trail decades ago. "Democrats for Eisenhower" were a key component of the postwar revival of Republican prospects. Three decades later, Jeane Kirkpatrick and Bill Bennett led the Democratic tide for Ronald Reagan, drawn by their convictions that what America needed was a strong foreign policy and a revival of morality.

All kinds of reasons figure into conversions, political and otherwise, but two considerations are paramount in the reasoning of Democrats who became Republicans. Democrats had become soft on defense, and they typically scorn the notions of right and wrong firmly held by the rank and file of the red states - and of a lot of the rank and file in the blue states.

Sneering that George W. is dumb no doubt makes the Democratic elites feel good, but if George W. is dumb, anyone who votes for him is by definition "dumber." An odd tribute to the voters they must persuade. This contempt was perfectly captured in the remark of John Kerry, overheard by a reporter for Newsweek: "I can't believe I'm losing to this idiot."

The corollary of this notion that "everybody who disagrees with us is dumb" is the sneer at anyone who takes religious faith seriously. This category includes a considerable majority of Americans, just those voters the Democrats will have to recruit to win elections again.

Sneering at the majority is getting to be a habit with many Democrats. Ronald Reagan's success was ascribed to the venality of the electorate - "selfishness, this greed, this new championship of caring only for yourself," was how Walter Mondale put it in 1984.

Hendrik Hertzberg, writing in the New Yorker, brings this up to date, accusing white evangelical Christians of being too stupid to vote their own interests. In voting for George W., he says, unworldly Christians "voted against their own material (and some might imagine, spiritual) well being." How on earth would he know? Tom Mertes, in the New Left Review, observes that "many of the voters that turned out to swell Bush's 3.5 million lead are blue-collar workers, those bearing the brunt of Republican policies."

The differences in the passion and convictions of Democrats and Republicans was amply illustrated on election day. The Republicans cultivated grass roots volunteers who believed in what they were doing, men and women with the determination to persuade. The Democrats hired mercenaries who were paid to knock on doors, and who often knew nothing of, or cared nothing about, the voters behind the doors.

"While the Democrats retain the cachet of being the party of the common man," writes Joshua Muravchik in Commentary magazine, "support for their economic policies has been leaching away." Democrats are more accurately described as the party of the rich, the famous, and the glittery. John Kerry beat George W. Bush by 59 percent to 41 percent among donors with assets over $10 million. George W. is indeed rich, but Texas roots and religious faith lend both the president and the first lady an earthiness of character unlike that of John Kerry, the husband of a woman far richer than George W.

A correspondent for Newsweek observed that at one campaign stop in rural Wisconsin, the audience of farmers, laborers and small businessmen laughed at the senator when he said he understood their financial problems because he had two children and three stepchildren to raise.

So the Democrats have work to do, and first on themselves. January, named for the mythical god Janus, who presides over all that is double-edged in life, may not be the most auspicious time to get started. Janus, with his double head, looks both backward and forward. Great for a god, not so great for a political party solidly stuck in a ditch.

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This is the part they just don't get:

Suzanne Fields wrote:

Sneering that George W. is dumb no doubt makes the Democratic elites feel good, but if George W. is dumb, anyone who votes for him is by definition "dumber." An odd tribute to the voters they must persuade.

They made the same mistake with Arnold. When he appeared on the scene, despite his immense popularity, they started maligning him and behaving as if he would harm the Republican Party. Talk about not getting it.

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When he comes to Arnold, I still don't get it, I guess I am dumber than most.

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He's improving the ecahnomy, jahbs, and things of that nature...

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yeah right.

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Lash wrote:

He's improving the ecahnomy, jahbs, and things of that nature...

ROTFLMAO!

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Yeah. JW, I couldn't figure out why it was locked, either.

I noticed one of my posts was zapped into non-existence, too. As far as I know, it met TOS--but, eh...

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