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Bush supporters' aftermath thread

 
 
mysteryman
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jan, 2006 02:22 am
Anon-Voter wrote:
Magginkat wrote:
Momma Angel wrote:
Anon-Voter wrote:
Yes MM, we know you are a war hero. However, most of the bush backers have no clue what war service is. I doubt that over 5 of those on this site who back bush are actually war wounded. I'll bet that MOST of his ardent backers here haven't even served in the military. By the way, aren't you medically retired because of something OTHER than war injuries ... I seem to remember a heart attack, stroke, or back injury. Nothing to do with the military ... right or wrong??

Anon

Anon,

What does that matter? What matters is He served his country. He fought for us! He deserves our thanks and respect for that.


I'm sorry you don't seem to see that Crying or Very sad .



It matters because he is a well known quack who has posted way too many and way too different stories about his so-called heroism. He thrives on the praise of gulliable people.


Yea Maggie,

I hadn't heard the hand story until just very lately!

Anon


Look at everything I have ever posted about my military service.
I have always said what happened to me.
If you would like,I will be happy to link to every time I said anything about it,and you tell me if my story has ever changed at all.

I do not have to defend myself to the likes of people like you,and the people that know me know the truth.

BTW,show me one time that I EVER claimed to be a "war hero".
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McTag
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jan, 2006 02:39 am
blatham wrote:
Quote:
GOP warms to curb on lobbying
Bribery case shifts tenor of debate
By Rick Klein, Globe Staff | January 9, 2006

WASHINGTON -- Worried that the case of disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff may trigger a backlash at the polls this fall, Congress is showing new interest in sweeping changes to rules on lobbying, with Republican leaders poised to embrace major alterations they'd rejected when Democrats introduced them last year.

Yesterday, House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert announced that he would ''move forward aggressively and quickly to have the House of Representatives address lobbying reform."

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2006/01/09/gop_warms_to_curb_on_lobbying/


I read at the weekend that there are 60 lobbyists in Washington for every congressman.
It's a very corrupt way of life which needs a root and branch reform.
It is difficult to imagine that it is going to happen.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jan, 2006 02:53 am
Magginkat wrote:
Momma Angel wrote:
Anon-Voter wrote:
Yes MM, we know you are a war hero. However, most of the bush backers have no clue what war service is. I doubt that over 5 of those on this site who back bush are actually war wounded. I'll bet that MOST of his ardent backers here haven't even served in the military. By the way, aren't you medically retired because of something OTHER than war injuries ... I seem to remember a heart attack, stroke, or back injury. Nothing to do with the military ... right or wrong??

Anon

Anon,

What does that matter? What matters is He served his country. He fought for us! He deserves our thanks and respect for that.


I'm sorry you don't seem to see that Crying or Very sad .



It matters because he is a well known quack who has posted way too many and way too different stories about his so-called heroism. He thrives on the praise of gulliable people.

I dont have to defend myself from someone like you,but this once I will.

You and anon want to say that I have "changed my story,then lets see.

Lets go back to this thread...
http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23628&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=10

And see what I said.

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2004 19:16 Post: 665261 -

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Suzy,
I traded 3 marine lives,and part of my right hand,to protect a woman and her child that were caught in the crossfire of a firefight in Nassiriyah.
That was expensive,but EVERY marine I know would say its part of the job.Its a risk we accepted whe we raised our right hand.

Now,as anyone can see,I havent changed my story.
This is the only time I will ever respond to your wild,baseless claim,so dont bother repeating it.
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Magginkat
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jan, 2006 08:12 am
Bull Mularkey
mysteryman wrote:
Anon-Voter wrote:
Magginkat wrote:
Momma Angel wrote:
Anon-Voter wrote:
Yes MM, we know you are a war hero. However, most of the bush backers have no clue what war service is. I doubt that over 5 of those on this site who back bush are actually war wounded. I'll bet that MOST of his ardent backers here haven't even served in the military. By the way, aren't you medically retired because of something OTHER than war injuries ... I seem to remember a heart attack, stroke, or back injury. Nothing to do with the military ... right or wrong??

Anon

Anon,

What does that matter? What matters is He served his country. He fought for us! He deserves our thanks and respect for that.


I'm sorry you don't seem to see that Crying or Very sad .



It matters because he is a well known quack who has posted way too many and way too different stories about his so-called heroism. He thrives on the praise of gulliable people.


Yea Maggie,

I hadn't heard the hand story until just very lately!

Anon


Look at everything I have ever posted about my military service.
I have always said what happened to me.
If you would like,I will be happy to link to every time I said anything about it,and you tell me if my story has ever changed at all.

I do not have to defend myself to the likes of people like you,and the people that know me know the truth.

BTW,show me one time that I EVER claimed to be a "war hero".



There are many ways to say things without using exact words like

"I served in Beirut,Grenada,Desert Storm,Somalia,Afghanistan,and Iraq.
I was wounded in Iraq,and am medically retired. "


By saying you are medically retired in connection with that list said exactly what you wanted it to say and it's still a lie!

Somalia eh? Wasn't that the place where soldier's bodies were dragged through the street? What next? Will your body will be one that was dragged & now we will hear a never before told miracle survival?

Heaven forbid that we should have to read all that crap for the umpteenth time. Please don't "defend" (tell those tall tales again) youself.

Ms. Angel bought your silly story and that's what you wanted ... "Mission Accomplished". The rest of us have seen this ever-changing and added to garbage way too many times.... like the newly added 'hand job'

Why am I wasting my breath"? These repugs are only following the example of their lying, cheating, thieving, moronic leader, Chicken george.


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McGentrix
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jan, 2006 08:16 am
I wonder why you waste your breath as well.
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Magginkat
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jan, 2006 08:19 am
George W. Bush was scheduled to visit a United Methodist
Church outside Washington as part of his campaign. Bush's campaign
manager made a visit to the pastor, and said to him, "We've been
getting a lot of bad publicity among Methodists because of Bush's
position on stem cell research and the like. We'd gladly make a
contribution to the church of $100,000 if during your sermon you'd say
the President is a saint."

The pastor thinks it over for a few moments and finally says, "The
Church is in desperate need of funds and I will agree to do it."

Bush shows up and, as the service progresses, the pastor begins his
homily: "George Bush is petty, a self-absorbed hypocrite and a nitwit.
He is a liar, a cheat, and a low-intelligence weasel. He has lied
about his military record and had the gall to put himself in a jet
plane landing on a carrier posing before a banner stating "Mission
Accomplished." He invaded a country for oil and money, and is using it
to lie to the American people. He is the worst example of a United
Methodist I've ever personally known...But compared to Dick Cheney and
the rest of his cabinet, George Bush is a saint."
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jan, 2006 08:21 am
mags,
You have stalked me thru several different forums.
You joined this one after me,and you also joined Kevins after me.
You have run away from Kevins,yet you continue to attack me.
You should get over your obsession with me and move on to someone that is interested in you.

I am not that person.
As for my military record,I really dont care what you think.I have my DD-214 to show to anyone that wants to see it,I have my retirement,and I have my purple heart.
I do not have to justify anything to you,but I will come to your house (I still have your address),and show you if you want.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jan, 2006 08:25 am
MM, don't ever feel you need to defend yourself to the dregs. You are who you are and they can either accept or not.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jan, 2006 08:42 am
McG,
She has stalked me thru several different forums,starting with the old abuzz.
For some reason that I havent figured out,I think she has a crush on me.
That is the only reason I can think of for her to be stalking me.

While I am flattered,I do have a girlfriend.
Mags attacks me because she wants my attention,like the little boy that pulls a girls hair.

I personally think she is seriously disturbed,after all,she did write a FL state senator and tell him that a bullet was to good for him.
As long as she doesnt know where I live,I am not worried,even though she is annoying.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jan, 2006 08:43 am
Echoing McG.

Magginkat seems to be a practiced stalker. You are not the only one in her sights.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jan, 2006 11:20 am
Quote:
Saddam's Terror Training Camps
What the documents captured from the former Iraqi regime reveal--and why they should all be made public.

by Stephen F. Hayes
01/16/2006, Volume 011, Issue 17

THE FORMER IRAQI REGIME OF Saddam Hussein trained thousands of radical Islamic terrorists from the region at camps in Iraq over the four years immediately preceding the U.S. invasion, according to documents and photographs recovered by the U.S. military in postwar Iraq. The existence and character of these documents has been confirmed to THE WEEKLY STANDARD by eleven U.S. government officials.

The secret training took place primarily at three camps--in Samarra, Ramadi, and Salman Pak--and was directed by elite Iraqi military units.
Interviews by U.S. government interrogators with Iraqi regime officials and military leaders corroborate the documentary evidence. Many of the fighters were drawn from terrorist groups in northern Africa with close ties to al Qaeda, chief among them Algeria's GSPC and the Sudanese Islamic Army. Some 2,000 terrorists were trained at these Iraqi camps each year from 1999 to 2002, putting the total number at or above 8,000. Intelligence officials believe that some of these terrorists returned to Iraq and are responsible for attacks against Americans and Iraqis. According to three officials with knowledge of the intelligence on Iraqi training camps, White House and National Security Council officials were briefed on these findings in May 2005; senior Defense Department officials subsequently received the same briefing.

The photographs and documents on Iraqi training camps come from a collection of some 2 million "exploitable items" captured in postwar Iraq and Afghanistan. They include handwritten notes, typed documents, audiotapes, videotapes, compact discs, floppy discs, and computer hard drives. Taken together, this collection could give U.S. intelligence officials and policymakers an inside look at the activities of the former Iraqi regime in the months and years before the Iraq war.

The discovery of the information on jihadist training camps in Iraq would seem to have two major consequences: It exposes the flawed assumptions of the experts and U.S. intelligence officials who told us for years that a secularist like Saddam Hussein would never work with Islamic radicals, any more than such jihadists would work with an infidel like the Iraqi dictator. It also reminds us that valuable information remains buried in the mountain of documents recovered in Afghanistan and Iraq over the past four years.

...


The rest of the article can be read ... HERE.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jan, 2006 11:23 am
tico, FYI Saddam is gone, but many murdering tyrants remain in Africa.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jan, 2006 11:30 am
cicerone imposter wrote:
tico, FYI Saddam is gone, but many murdering tyrants remain in Africa.


Thanks, c.i.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jan, 2006 11:31 am
I couldn't find a lot more sources than that (and others quoing the same) Tico already gave, nor what 11 US government officials confirmed that where and how.

(I did find, however, lots of various reports about "US paying Iraqi rebels at secret training camps", in 2003.)
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jan, 2006 11:34 am
Yes, Walter ... news that tends to support or reflect positively upon Bush and the decision to remove Saddam rarely gets a lot of attention by the MSM. But if the news tends to cast Bush in a bad light, look for it to be played to the hilt.

Good point.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jan, 2006 11:37 am
Bush removed Saddam, but Saddam royalists are creating havoc for the US and Iraqi military today.

It was a half-ass job by Bush.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jan, 2006 11:40 am
That's because the remaining loyalists are cowardly dogs that should be beaten with a shoe C.I.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jan, 2006 11:44 am
Ticomaya wrote:
Yes, Walter ... news that tends to support or reflect positively upon Bush and the decision to remove Saddam rarely gets a lot of attention by the MSM. But if the news tends to cast Bush in a bad light, look for it to be played to the hilt.

Good point.


Bastard :wink:
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jan, 2006 11:44 am
McG, You are free to call them names, but the outcome is the same; chaos in Iraq.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jan, 2006 12:03 pm
I would like to say something here and then I will get out of this conversation.


To me, EVERY SINGLE PERSON that serves in the military, no matter in which war or not in time of war, no matter whether foot soldier, flyer, or stock clerk, man or woman, will ALWAYS deserve and GET my utmost respect. To me, they are heroes. It matters not to me what their personal feelings were or are about the war, in the respect that they put those feelings aside and did what they felt was and is their duty. They fought for the very right you are exercising in this thread ~ FREEDOM OF SPEECHhttp://www.smileys.ws/smls/yahoo/00000042.gif.
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