Bush supporters' aftermath thread

There will always be people who focus on the downside of anything and people who throw cold water on anything good. I'll stick with those who can appreciate the positive even while we work on what can be improved.

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Oh, I forgot.

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Meanwhile I have a warm, secure, safe place to live for less money than a smaller apartment that does not build equity would cost.

Until the housing market bottoms out, that is; and then the house you just bought is worth less than what you paid for it. Can't borrow against negative equity.

Cycloptichorn

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I refer you to my immediately preceding post, Cyclop. God I would hate to live in the gloomy world you seem to prefer. If you listen to those who know a 'goodam thing or two about economics' you will know that things tend to get better when people believe they are good. It is not presidents or politicians who drive the economy. It is people who get up, put on their pants, and go to work every day. What they believe is generally the way it is going to be.

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Foxfyre wrote:

P.S. Anybody who isn't making money in today's market has a pretty crappy advisor I think.

It may be unbelievable for most you, but outsite the USA live quite a few people who not only don't have an adviser but just are busy not to spend more than their month's salary or income.

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Walter, Only wise money managers understand that fundamental concept; don't spend more than your salary or income.

Most Americans are up to their eyeballs in debt - including the federal government. It's a good time to buy gold.

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They also live in their great-grandparents house Walter.

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That's because our grandparents built houses that won't fall apart after only a few centuries.

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Americans are loaded with credit-card debt.

The average American household with at least one credit card has nearly $9,200 in credit card debt, according to CardWeb.com, and the average interest rate runs in the mid- to high teens at any given time.

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The point remains. Cultures are different as are needs and desires.

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McGentrix wrote:

They also live in their great-grandparents house Walter.

Well, my mother does (and I as my official second home).
It's like many others on the list of the state's monuments ... and what Thomas said.

My credit card debt lasts not more than 30 days = is paid every month.

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A paragraph from the NYT article:

The war strategy that Mr. Bush outlined is one that the current group of top generals here developed in the wake of crisis in the spring of 2004. At that time, the abrupt halting of a Marine offensive in Falluja, ordered by Washington after heavy Iraqi civilian casualties, left the city in the control of Islamic militants who promptly began an orgy of kidnapping and beheading. The failure in Falluja, just 25 miles west of Baghdad, became a hallmark of what many saw as the muddled American handling of the war.

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The reason I posted the above is to reenforce the fact that Bushites refuse to acknowledge the many screw-ups by this administration in handling this war.

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This is one of the "downsides" that McG mentioned above. As these manufacturing jobs disappear from US factories, those that consider themselves middle class will also disappear into poverty.

Even though Nissan Motor Co. Ltd. (7201.T) said its U.S. sales slipped 7.8 percent, Asian brands won a record 40 percent share of the U.S. market in October, while GM and Ford sales each fell by 26 percent after the companies stopped offering employee discounts to all buyers.

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cicerone imposter wrote:

The reason I posted the above is to reenforce the fact that Bushites refuse to acknowledge the many screw-ups by this administration in handling this war.

And the left refuses to acknowledge the good things that have been done in Iraq,so I guess its even.

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mm, The good things you talk about are small compared to our cost. You prolly don't understand the politics of Iraq and Iran.

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cicerone imposter wrote:

mm, The good things you talk about are small compared to our cost. You prolly don't understand the politics of Iraq and Iran.

Your right,I'm not a politician.
I just know what I saw when I was there and what my friends that are still there are telling me,about the schools,hospitals and clinics being built.about how northern Iraq has a thriving economy,about how the Iraqi economy in general has improved,about the new paved roads,and running water where it used to not exist,about how almost ALL of the children in Iraq have been inoculated against childhood diseases,etc.

But,I realize that none of that counts to you.

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Isn't that wunnerful! Iraq gets new schools, hospitals and roads while we the taxpayers are closing schools, hospitals, and drive on pot-holled roads. Wunnerful a wunnerful!

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Walter Hinteler wrote:

McGentrix wrote:
They also live in their great-grandparents house Walter.

Well, my mother does (and I as my official second home).
It's like many others on the list of the state's monuments ... and what Thomas said.

My credit card debt lasts not more than 30 days = is paid every month.

And so is mine. When the bill comes in, it is paid the same day. One cannot blame the economy for the irresponsibility of a few, nor does that have anything to do with making money in the stock market with or without an advisor. But the current market is so favorable if somebody halfway knows what they are doing or does get good advice, you can't help but make money if you invest wisely in the market.

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"Invest wisely in the market" is easily stated, but difficult to practice. Even investment advisors get it wrong most of the time.

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cicerone imposter wrote:

Isn't that wunnerful! Iraq gets new schools, hospitals and roads while we the taxpayers are closing schools, hospitals, and drive on pot-holled roads. Wunnerful a wunnerful!

Pot-holed roads? I don't know about where you live, but we're repairing roads that have no business being repaired around these here parts.

And we're building schools. And we don't need any more hospitals, and there sure haven't been any closing.

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