blatham wrote:Well, I guess it is finally time to come clean.
Under normal circumstances, I wouldn't be here, on this thread. But normal circumstances do not apply.
You guys are dangerous. You pose a threat to peace, prosperity, liberty, equality, inclusiveness, transparency and honesty in governance, democratic principles, the open-minded pursuit of knowledge, and the viability of the biosphere upon which we and all life finally depend. You are dangerous in the manner of the Red Guard and the Nazi Youth. You have tied yourselves to a leader, an administration, a party and an ideology with such single-minded loyalty that it now seems unimaginable that any set of circumstances or revelations will sever that loyalty and the mindset associated.
I detect a little projection here
Quote:The rejection and dismantling of international agreements, treaties, codes and administrative bodies designed to enact and protect such civilizing advances (land mines, treaty of the seas, nuclear proliferation and experimentation, etc etc) should have done it.
The fact that some other nations sign agreements such as the land mine, Law of the Sea, and, of course the Kyoto and ICC treaties, does not imply that we should or must do so ourselves. The fact is the United States has long been the world's strongest advocate of enforcement of treaties limiting nuclear proliferation -- can't figure out just what might be your point here.
Quote:The ubiquitous rejection of, and/or covert burial of critically important scientific investigation and conclusion for perceived political or economic gain might have been adequate.
No worse that the distortion of the scientific reports themselves by single issue zealots in pursuit of their own narrowly defined political gains.
Quote:The purposive creation of a media machine designed specifically and only to forward propaganda, falsehoods and smears - precisely what Goering did and exactly Pravda was used for - ought to have bothered you.
Are you seriously suggesting that there is anything at all new in the attempts of this adminisrtration to influence the media to favor its issues or positions? You can't possibly be serious with this one!
Quote:The evisceration of environmental standards and the knowing, purposeful forwarding and support of fallacious 'science' while denigrating responsible scientific data in order to please big-time party donors and the cronies of your own leaders (and those leaders themselves) should have been enough to have you at their doors with pitchforks.
What environmental standards have been "enviscerated" ? Perhaps you refer to the Administration's proposal to modify the standards in the Clean Air act which require power plant owners to fully comply with new plant standards when they make any omprovement to their old coal-fired plants - even improvements which would substantially reduce the fuel consumption of these plants (and thereby reduce their environmental impact. The old rule had yielded a stupid situation in which almost no new plant capacity had been added in 20 years and important upgrades to existing plants were being deferred. The old rule wasn't achieving its intended purpose and the recommended amendments would constructively address a real problem and yield significantly reduced air pollution. It is important to know what you are talking about.
Quote:Calls here for 'manners' or calls for playing by some set of esoteric and formal set of 'netiquette' rules are absolutely laughable in the context of the above. There is no civilized rule which the modern party you support has not violated in order to gain power or to maintain power.
Oh I think there are at least one or two rules of civilization they haven't yet violated. ---- My hyperbole detector hit full deflection on this one. This is, however, a telling rationalization of "anything goes" in the pursuit of their goals by liberal zealots.
