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Bush supporters' aftermath thread

 
 
Lash
 
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Reply Sat 10 Sep, 2005 07:35 pm
dlowan wrote:
Dear goddess, can you give an example of what you consider a "moderate" site?
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Sites where you can't always predict someone's response to an issue.

Though I agree, the hyperbole makes for counterhyperbole.
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Yes. That was my point.

Mind you, Lash, when I have pointed that out in the past, you have said that means I am a no good flipper flopper with no integrity nor true opinions!!!!
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I'm sure you are mistaken. I would never assail you for taking a less liberal stance. Shocked

So I do find your comment very funny.
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I find yours erroneous. Of course, if you could link me assailing you for having a more conservative than usual stance, I would apologize. I am certain you are incorrect...

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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Sat 10 Sep, 2005 07:41 pm
I will acknowledge that BBB did put up a lot of links. Most didn't address the question of National Guardsmen under Federal authority being able to carry rifles, and those that did in no way affirmed her assertion that they could not. Most of the other stuff the negative nabobs have posted today has already been debunked and disputed previously and by Timber's links tonight, , so I won't bother to do so again.

I wonder why the Leftie's Bush-bashing threads are so boring to them that they keep coming in here to do that?
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 10 Sep, 2005 07:45 pm
FreeDuck-- Remember this?

What I personally hope is that Clinton has no intention of running but that they are using her as a decoy. Wouldn't it be hilarious if the Republicans spent a whole bunch of money and effort smearing her right up until the Democratic Convention (which would hopefully be after the Republican one) when they announced that, gasp, Howard Dean or Barak Obama was their nominee? I'd just love to see all that money wasted.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Sat 10 Sep, 2005 07:48 pm
BBB
I have a question.

A is being publicly criticized for the quality of leadership or work.

B is vigorously criticizing A.

C is vigorously defending A

Does it mean that C is defending A because of confidence and support of the quality of leadership or work?

Or does it mean that C is defending A because B is criticizing A?

BBB
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 10 Sep, 2005 07:53 pm
That's a reasonable question.

If B is not being biased against A--and reveals an even-handed overview of events and the criticism is reasonable and fact based--C would join B in the criticism of A.

If, however, B just has a case of knee-jerk, parroting diarrhea of the mouth and is widely noted to personally hate A, C calls her on it.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Sat 10 Sep, 2005 07:58 pm
Lash wrote:
FreeDuck-- Remember this?

What I personally hope is that Clinton has no intention of running but that they are using her as a decoy. Wouldn't it be hilarious if the Republicans spent a whole bunch of money and effort smearing her right up until the Democratic Convention (which would hopefully be after the Republican one) when they announced that, gasp, Howard Dean or Barak Obama was their nominee? I'd just love to see all that money wasted.
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Yes. So?
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Sat 10 Sep, 2005 07:59 pm
FreeDuck wrote:
No amount of Dem excoriation is going to hide the incompetence of this administration. It is revealed with every unmet challenge. And everyone can see it, even those of us who are not Dems and not partisan.

<chuckle> Excoriate all you want, which is about all The Dems seem capable of doing anyway. When all is said and done, history will show Bush the Younger consistently met and overcame challenges critical to The United States not faced by past presidents but for Washington, Lincoln, and FDR. I would be unsurprised should the legacy of his tenure include the birth of a viable new political party, brought about as a result of the self-induced implosion and collapse of The Democratic Party.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Sat 10 Sep, 2005 08:00 pm
Lash
Lash wrote:
That's a reasonable question.

If B is not being biased against A--and reveals an even-handed overview of events and the criticism is reasonable and fact based--C would join B in the criticism of A.

If, however, B just has a case of knee-jerk, parroting diarrhea of the mouth and is widely noted to personally hate A, C calls her on it.


Do you mean the kind of hate you personally demonstrate in your response to my question?

BBB
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Sat 10 Sep, 2005 08:01 pm
timberlandko wrote:

<chuckle> Excoriate all you want, which is about all The Dems seem capable of doing anyway.


Very interesting interpretation.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Sat 10 Sep, 2005 08:04 pm
It's kind of like thinking people know that even a blind squirrel will find an acorn now and then. But some people who have adopted the extreme left position that nothing the President does is right, he intentionally does evil, he is incompetent about nothing, lose all credibility with those same thinking people. And that's even moreso when they can't see that all the other squirrels are missing acorns here and there too.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 10 Sep, 2005 08:07 pm
Re: Lash
BumbleBeeBoogie wrote:
Lash wrote:
That's a reasonable question.

If B is not being biased against A--and reveals an even-handed overview of events and the criticism is reasonable and fact based--C would join B in the criticism of A.

If, however, B just has a case of knee-jerk, parroting diarrhea of the mouth and is widely noted to personally hate A, C calls her on it.


Do you mean the kind of hate you personally demonstrate in your response to my question?

BBB

That's not hate as I define it. A bit smart ass, but not hate.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Sat 10 Sep, 2005 08:11 pm
Some years ago I found myself elected chairman of a large and very antagonistic board. There was so much sniping and carping from all sides that absolutely nothing was getting done. I got them to agree to a new rule: Whenever anybody offered a suggeston, anyone responding had to say three nice things about it before they could criticize it. Now admittedly, we had to get creative to find something nice to say about some ideas, but the point is, it worked. It defused the vitriolic atmosphere and we could work together.

I honestly think some who post here couldn't do that in a million years. I would like to be wrong about that.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Sat 10 Sep, 2005 08:14 pm
J_B wrote:
Tico, I have a sincere question.
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As a conservative Republican and loyal Bush supporter, do you separate the man from the party?


Hi, J_B. The answer is yes. I have voted for Democrats when they have been, IMO, the better candidate.

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Is the loyalty you have to this particular Republican President or is it more to the platform he represents?


Both, actually. I grew to like Bush quite a bit after he beat Gore, whom I despised. He's certainly better than the alternatives.


And I agree with Lash's response.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Sat 10 Sep, 2005 08:32 pm
Foxfyre wrote:
It's kind of like thinking people know that even a blind squirrel will find an acorn now and then. But some people who have adopted the extreme left position that nothing the President does is right, he intentionally does evil, he is incompetent about nothing, lose all credibility with those same thinking people. And that's even moreso when they can't see that all the other squirrels are missing acorns here and there too.


Sometimes the sun shines on a hot day. Sometimes the cobra strikes without warning. But even if the seas rise up and lap at our heels, we will still have athlete's foot. Amen.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Sat 10 Sep, 2005 08:33 pm
Laughing
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Sat 10 Sep, 2005 08:34 pm
Freeduck writes
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Sometimes the sun shines on a hot day. Sometimes the cobra strikes without warning. But even if the seas rise up and lap at our heels, we will still have athlete's foot. Amen.


Okay, that was good. Smile
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husker
 
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Reply Sat 10 Sep, 2005 08:36 pm
demathlete's foot hate the stuff
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Sat 10 Sep, 2005 08:38 pm
Thaks for the chuckle, FD - that's a keeper.

On the same note:

"Whether the glass is half empty or half full doesn't much matter. Someone's going to have to wash it eventually, unless it gets broken first, then there's that mess to deal with"
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Sat 10 Sep, 2005 08:38 pm
Oh, you athlete's foot haters are all the same!
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 10 Sep, 2005 08:42 pm
Sent to me by a writer-friend who lives in GA:

Bush's Obscene Tirades Rattle White House Aides

By DOUG THOMPSON
Aug 25, 2005, 06:19


While President George W. Bush travels around the country in a last-ditch effort to sell his Iraq war, White House aides scramble frantically behind the scenes to hide the dark mood of an increasingly angry leader who unleashes obscenity-filled outbursts at anyone who dares disagree with him.

"I'm not meeting with that goddamned bitch," Bush screamed at aides who suggested he meet with Cindy Sheehan, the war-protesting mother whose son died in Iraq. "She can go to hell as far as I'm concerned!"

President Bush flashes the bird, something aides say he does a lot of these days. Bush, administration aides confide, frequently explodes into tirades over those who protest the war, calling them "motherfucking traitors." He reportedly was so upset over Veterans of Foreign Wars members who wore "bullshit protectors" over their ears during his speech to their annual convention that he told aides to "tell those VFW assholes that I'll never speak to them again is they can't keep their members under control."

White House insiders say Bush is growing increasingly bitter over mounting opposition to his war in Iraq. Polls show a vast majority of Americans now believe the war was a mistake and most doubt the President's honesty.

"Who gives a flying **** what the polls say," he screamed at a recent strategy meeting. "I'm the President and I'll do whatever I goddamned please. They don't know ****."

Bush, whiles setting up for a photo op for signing the recent CAFTA bill, flipped an extended middle finger at the camera before going live. Aides say the President often "flips the bird" to show his displeasure and tells aides who disagree with him to "go to hell" or to "go **** yourself."

Bush's behavior, according to prominent Washington psychiatrist, Dr. Justin Frank, author of "Bush on the Couch: Inside the Mind of the President," is all too typical of an alcohol-abusing bully who is ruled by fear.

To see that fear emerges, Dr. Frank says, all one has to do is confront the President. "To actually directly confront him in a clear way, to bring him out, so you would really see the bully, and you would also see the fear," he says.

Dr. Frank, in his book, speculates that Bush, an alcoholic who brags that he gave up booze without help from groups like Alcoholics Anonymous, may be drinking again.

"Two questions that the press seems particularly determined to ignore have hung silently in the air since before Bush took office," Dr. Frank says. "Is he still drinking? And if not, is he impaired by all the years he did spend drinking? Both questions need to be addressed in any serious assessment of his psychological state."

Last year, Capitol Hill Blue learned the White House physician prescribed anti-depressant drugs for the President to control what aides called "violent mood swings." As Dr. Frank also notes: "In writing about Bush's halting appearance in a press conference just before the start of the Iraq War, Washington Post media critic Tom Shales speculated that 'the president may have been ever so slightly medicated.'"

Dr. Frank explains Bush's behavior as all-to-typical of an alcoholic who is still in denial:

"The pattern of blame and denial, which recovering alcoholics work so hard to break, seems to be ingrained in the alcoholic personality; it's rarely limited to his or her drinking," he says. "The habit of placing blame and denying responsibility is so prevalent in George W. Bush's personal history that it is apparently triggered by even the mildest threat."

© Copyright 2005 Capitol Hill Blue

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7267.shtml
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