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Bush supporters' aftermath thread

 
 
Montana
 
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Reply Sat 3 Sep, 2005 01:18 am
Get a grip, finn!
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McTag
 
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Reply Sat 3 Sep, 2005 02:18 am
Ticomaya wrote:
McTag wrote:
jpinMilwaukee wrote:
Oh great... are we going to spam the entire site with this letter to Bush now?


You've seen this before? I apologise. The early bird catches the worm- but it's the second mouse that gets the cheese.

Some things are worth seeing more than once. How many times have you read the Gettysburg Address?


Your comparison of Moore's letter with the Gettysburg Address qualifies as the most ridiculous thing I've seen on A2K today. Congratulations, McT.


Well I didn't compare them, of course, save only to say that they were both worth seeing more that once. Some things are.

It is easier to attack me, is it not, than to answer the points I and Michael Moore made about the quality of George Bush's presidency and his custodianship of the nation's reputation, values, and treasure.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Sat 3 Sep, 2005 06:43 am
lastmoderate wrote:
Mysteryman, You need to read the article to refute. You obviously did not read the link I gave you last. Try reading it, then get back to me.



I read the link,and it stated quite clearly that
Quote:
In addition to nearly 3,800 Louisiana National Guard troops already at work on relief efforts, the state has another 2,700 troops on hand. "Louisiana has 6,500 guard members available," said bureau spokesman Lt. Col. Mike Milord. "They have only used up about half of their force available."


So,I ask atain,where are the rest of them and why werent they mobilized by the governor BEFORE the storm to help with the evac?
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Sat 3 Sep, 2005 08:04 am
While you're at it, ask the mayor why he didn't appropriate the hundreds and hundreds of school busses at his disposal and/or the substantial New Orleans transit system to get people to shelter or safety?
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Sat 3 Sep, 2005 08:36 am
lastmoderate wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
I have to wonder at the ignorance or just plain stupidity of some of you people.
Some of you are complaining that the NG cant help because they are all in Iraq.
Do any of you even bother to do a little research at all?
According to this site...
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/agency/army/arng-la.htm

there are 11,500 members of the La National Guard.

According to this...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/01/AR2005090101661.html

There are 3700 members of the La NG in Iraq.
That leaves almost 8000 members of the LA NG available to respond to the hurricane.
Now,since the NG answers to and takes orders from the governor of the state,why didn't the gov of La mobilize them before the storm?

Where are they?
Why didn't the Gov call them up and have them act?
Those 8000 people could have helped immensely,they could have been way ahead on evacuations,they could have secured the city and restored order.

The mayor of NO has been crying and blaming Bush,but he bears some of the responsibility.
In any disaster,the order of response is local,state,then federal.
Why didn't the mayor commandeer the city buses and the school buses to help get people out?
Why didn't the gov order the La NG to start evacuating people?

All of us know that the federal govt takes a few days to respond to anything,but when they do its with overwhelming resources.
We are seeing that now,with troops moving in with convoys of supplies,and with the firepower to restore order and maintain it.

So,I ask again...What happened to those 8000 members of the La NG that aren't in Iraq?
Whose fault is it that they weren't mobilized before the storm?


Actually, had you continued your research on the subject, you would find this
http://www4.army.mil/news/article.php?story=7812
National Guard units from all over the four state area were being mobilized., including the LA. national guard. They were not under the control of any Governor, the were under control of U.S. Army, as stated on the U.S. Army web page provided. It's true, you did "a little research", but obviously, not enough. Nice try at protecting your wonderful President though, it was an admirable effort.


Had you bothered to read the link you provided (or perhaps more on that site), or done a modicum of research into the subject, you'd be aware that the NG has a dual role, federal and state. When federalized, they are under the control of the federal government. "At the state level, the governors reserve the ability, under the Constitution of the United States, to call up members of the National Guard in time of domestic emergencies or need." SOURCE.

If not mobilized for a federal emergency, the La NG could have been mobilized by the Governor of La immediately. Why didn't that happen? Where is your condemnation of the efforts of the local/state government? "The governor can call the National Guard into action during local or statewide emergencies, such as storms, fires, earthquakes or civil disturbances." SOURCE.

Great source you provided. Too bad you didn't read it.

Or perhaps you are just too preoccupied with bashing Bush.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Sat 3 Sep, 2005 09:19 am
lastmoderate wrote:
Mysteryman, You need to read the article to refute. You obviously did not read the link I gave you last. Try reading it, then get back to me.


It seems obvious to me that you didn't read the article you posted. Instead of telling MM to read it -- which he obvioiusly did, because he's provided you with data from it -- why don't you enunciate your disagreement with the data he provided? Do you have an opposite argument you can articulate using the article you provided?
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Sat 3 Sep, 2005 10:01 am
BBB
Many of us have attacked the stupidity and incompetence of government at all levels right down to Mayors.

The United States has had it's great super power mask torn off and trampled in the muddy waters of New Orleans. We are now naked in our shame of being exposed as just another third world country when it comes to saving our own citizens.

We spend our treasure on military boondoggles, waste our young's lives in Iraq, deplete our treasurery to line the pockets of the rich, leaving nothing to take care of the Motherland. Homeland security? It's an illusion.

BBB
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Sat 3 Sep, 2005 10:19 am
Re: BBB
BumbleBeeBoogie wrote:
Many of us have attacked the stupidity and incompetence of government at all levels right down to Mayors.


Well, I must have missed that condemnation tucked away somewhere in all your many threads devoted to bashing Bush.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Sat 3 Sep, 2005 10:31 am
BBB has made 9842 posts as I write this. I wonder what percentage of those is a blatant criticism/condemnation of the President and/or his administration or the Republican party?
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Sat 3 Sep, 2005 10:34 am
Tico and Foxfyre
Tico and Foxfyre, there you go again predictably proving that you are, indeed, republican chauvinists. Can't seem to help yourselves, can you?

BBB
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Sat 3 Sep, 2005 10:43 am
Re: Tico and Foxfyre
BumbleBeeBoogie wrote:
Tico and Foxfyre, there you go again predictably proving that you are, indeed, republican chauvinists. Can't seem to help yourselves, can you?

BBB


How does pointing out your bias prove our chauvanism? Get a grip.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Sat 3 Sep, 2005 10:49 am
I thought it a reasonable question re one claiming all of a sudden to be criticizing all government. Conversely I wonder what percentage of those 9842 posts criticizes anybody identified with the Democrat party or a Democrat administration?
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Sat 3 Sep, 2005 10:52 am
Tico and Foxfyre
Tico and Foxfyre, is it possible that you don't care about reading any of my posts except those you deem to be an attack on Bush? They are the only ones that seem to get your attention, get your chauvinistic blood boiling. Perhaps you need to broaden your reading. Nah, you wouldn't waste your time.

BBB
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Sat 3 Sep, 2005 10:59 am
Well put your money where your mouth is BBB. What percentage of your threads/posts would you say are critical of GWB/his administration/GOP and what percentage would you say are critical of Clinton/his administration/Democrats or the pre-Clinton Democrats or post-Clinton Democrats? I think it might be an interesting exercise for you to do.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Sat 3 Sep, 2005 11:01 am
I wish we had the capability to see a summary of threads other members have posted.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Sat 3 Sep, 2005 11:06 am
Foxfyre
Foxfyre wrote:
Well put your money where your mouth is BBB. What percentage of your threads/posts would you say are critical of GWB/his administration/GOP and what percentage would you say are critical of Clinton/his administration/Democrats or the pre-Clinton Democrats or post-Clinton Democrats? I think it might be an interesting exercise for you to do.


You've got to be kidding! You really are asking me to spend days counting threads when I already know what your response will be. If you want to find out, do your own search for numbers. The upside to that is that it will keep you too busy to bug the rest of us.

BBB
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Sat 3 Sep, 2005 11:16 am
Answer me this, BBB: Isn't www.bushwatch.net your homepage? Be honest.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Sat 3 Sep, 2005 11:22 am
Tico and Foxfyre
Ticomaya wrote:
Answer me this, BBB: Isn't www.bushwatch.net your homepage? Be honest.


Bush Watch doesn't rant much like Buzz Flash, but I read many other sources, including conservative sites, too. Always good to know what the other side is thinking.

Buzz Flash is another, more rabid site I sometimes visit. Do you notice that I'm very selective in what I post from Buzz Flash. A lot of it is crap! And I think the person that writes their headlines is an idiot.

BTW, just a reminder to Foxfyre. In case you don't remember, A2K didn't exist when the Clinton administration was in office. If A2K had existed at that time, you would have been cheering on my rants and complaints about the Clinton administration for some of their polices (and his stupid sexual behavior.) So give me a break! How many times do I have to remind you that I didn't vote for Clinton---twice.

BBB
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Sat 3 Sep, 2005 11:27 am
Re: Tico and Foxfyre
BumbleBeeBoogie wrote:
How many times do I have to remind you that I didn't vote for Clinton---twice.

BBB


Please try not to do it again. I've lost track of the number of times I've seen you point out that Kerry was the first Democrat you ever voted for.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Sat 3 Sep, 2005 11:32 am
Re: Tico and Foxfyre
Ticomaya wrote:
BumbleBeeBoogie wrote:
How many times do I have to remind you that I didn't vote for Clinton---twice.

BBB


Please try not to do it again. I've lost track of the number of times I've seen you point out that Kerry was the first Democrat you ever voted for.


Then why do you and Foxfyre try to consistently paint me with the democrat brush?

BBB
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