Bush supporters' aftermath thread

According to a news alert it's John Roberts...Court of Appeals for the D.C. circuit.

Not a woman, but still a good day.

<Doctors have concluded chocolate is GOOD for you>

<GO LANCE!>

Woo-hoo!!!

Get some popcorn; this is going to be quite a show.

Bush Nominates Judge John C. Roberts By DEB RIECHMANN, Associated Press Writer
5 minutes ago



WASHINGTON - President Bush chose federal appeals court judge John G. Roberts Jr. on Tuesday as his first nominee for the Supreme Court, selecting a rock solid conservative whose nomination could trigger a tumultuous battle over the direction of the nation's highest court, a senior administration official said.

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Bush offered the position to Roberts in a telephone call at 12:35 p.m. after a luncheon with the visiting prime minister of Australia, John Howard. He was to announce it later with a flourish in a nationally broadcast speech to the nation.

Roberts has been on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit since June 2003 after being picked for that seat by Bush.

Advocacy groups on the right say that Roberts, a 50-year-old native of Buffalo, N.Y., who attended Harvard Law School, is a bright judge with strong conservative credentials he burnished in the administrations of former Presidents Bush and Reagan. While he has been a federal judge for just a little more than two years, legal experts say that whatever experience he lacks on the bench is offset by his many years arguing cases before the Supreme Court.

Liberal groups, however, say Roberts has taken positions in cases involving free speech and religious liberty that endanger those rights. Abortion rights groups allege that Roberts is hostile to women's reproductive freedom and cite a brief he co-wrote in 1990 that suggested the Supreme Court overturn Roe v. Wade, the landmark 1973 high court decision that legalized abortion.

http://www.mikehersh.com/Republican_Racists_Disrespect_Hispanics.shtml

Seems Roberts was a good choice and one that will be hard for the Dems to demonize.

Heh.

that icon of republican values William F Buckley Jr:
had this to say:

dys, I just had to do a search on Buckley's statement you posted, because I just had to make sure it didn't have any "lose ends." This is what I found, and draws some conclusions about George W Bush's form of "republicanism."



William F. Buckley, Jr.

Father of the Modern Conservative Movement. I've enjoyed his work over the last 30 or so years, too. But let's not forget who he is.

Source: The TIP, 2004-07-13

Candidate: Republican Party


Like the Father's of our Country, Buckley was born to a pre-disposition against the equality of mankind - womankind too for that matter. Here he is in 1957:

"The central question that emerges . . . is whether the White community in the South is entitled to take such measures as are necessary to prevail, politically and culturally, in areas in which it does not prevail numerically?
The sobering answer is Yes ? the White community is so entitled because, for the time being, it is the advanced race.
It is not easy, and it is unpleasant, to adduce statistics evidencing the cultural superiority of White over Negro: but it is a fact that obtrudes, one that cannot be hidden by ever-so-busy egalitarians and anthropologists."

Yes, Buckley was, and for all we know, is a bigot. Perhaps that is why his heir, George W. Bush, has refused to speak to the NAACP National Convention for the last four years!

More Buckley: "National Review believes that the South's premises are correct. . .

. It is more important for the community, anywhere in the world, to affirm and live by civilized standards, than to bow to the demands of the numerical majority."

So, perhaps its just as well the Democrats let the south go Republican. Do we really want the south:

Buckley: "The South confronts one grave moral challenge. It must not exploit the fact of Negro backwardness to preserve the Negro as a servile class. . . . Let the South never permit itself to do this. So long as it is merely asserting the right to impose superior mores for whatever period it takes to effect a genuine cultural equality between the races, and so long as it does so by humane and charitable means, the South is in step with civilization, as is the Congress that permits its to function."

Buckley is retiring from the magazine he founded, The National Review. Unfortunately, his presumption of entitlement is not retiring. He feels today much as he felt then, as today he insists, if he could, he would vote to deny civil rights to the gay and lesbian community. I guess he figures homosexuals aren't as advanced as he is. Let's see, Black Americans, Homosexual Americans, who else? Irish? Italians? Jews? Poles? Protestants? Just who is Buckley's equal, who is entitled to full citizenship?

Am I the only one here that didn't know that Hillary tried to join the Marines? Seems it was sometime back in the 70's...she was 27 or so. Said they discouraged her because she has such bad eyesight LOL.

Of course, her main reason for wanting to join up is because she loves the military so much.

JustGiggles, what was the reason you wanted to join the marines?

DyslexicOne, you just won me another bet

<So predictable LOL>

Thanks!

Okay.....just to show I'm a sport.....Dys and C.I....now there's a pair for you....dug up a racist statement by a Republican since they couldn't find much in the way of civil rights legislation backed by Democrats.

But if you want to go racist quote for racist quote, try these.....

(Affect(ing) a black accent to recount San Francisco mayor Willie Brown asking) "Who is this "Emily List? She's supportin' all these people. She's supportin' Sen. Dianne Feinstein. She's supported Sen. Barbara Boxer....She supported everybody. Why won't she support me?" -- Hillary Clinton. Source: John Broder of the LA Times

"Some junior high n*gger kicked Steve's ass while he was trying to help his brothers out; junior high or sophomore in high school. Whatever it was, Steve had the n*gger down. However it was, it was Steve's fault. He had the n*gger down, he let him up. The n*gger blindsided him." -- Roger Clinton, the President's brother on audiotape

"You'd find these potentates from down in Africa, you know, rather than eating each other, they'd just come up and get a good square meal in Geneva." -- Fritz Hollings (D, S.C.)

"Is you their black-haired answer-mammy who be smart? Does they like how you shine their shoes, Condoleezza? Or the way you wash and park the whitey's cars?" -- Song from the show of left-wing radio host Neil Rogers

Blacks and Hispanics are "too busy eating watermelons and tacos" to learn how to read and write." -- Mike Wallace, CBS News. Source: Newsmax

"In the days of slavery, there were those slaves who lived on the plantation and [there] were those slaves that lived in the house. You got the privilege of living in the house if you served the master ... exactly the way the master intended to have you serve him. Colin Powell's committed to come into the house of the master. When Colin Powell dares to suggest something other than what the master wants to hear, he will be turned back out to pasture." -- Harry Belafonte

"Republicans bring out Colin Powell and J.C. Watts because they have no program, no policy. They have no love and no joy. They'd rather take pictures with black children than feed them." -- Donna Brazile, Al Gore's Campaign Manager for the 2000 election

(On Clarence Thomas) "A handkerchief-head, chicken-and-biscuit-eating Uncle Tom." -- Spike Lee

"He's married to a white woman. He wants to be white. He wants a colorless society. He has no ethnic pride. He doesn't want to be black." -- California State Senator Diane Watson's on Ward Connerly's interracial marriage

"Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds." -- Former Klansman and current US Senator Robert Byrd, a man who is referred to by many Democrats as the "conscience of the Senate", in a letter written in 1944, after he quit the KKK.

"I am a former kleagle of the Ku Klux Klan in Raleigh County and the adjoining counties of the state .... The Klan is needed today as never before and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia .... It is necessary that the order be promoted immediately and in every state of the Union. Will you please inform me as to the possibilities of rebuilding the Klan in the Realm of W. Va .... I hope that you will find it convenient to answer my letter in regards to future possibilities." -- Former Klansman and current US Senator Robert Byrd, a man who is referred to by many Democrats as the "conscience of the Senate", in a letter written in 1946.

"These laws [segregation] are still constitutional and I promise you that until they are removed from the ordinance books of Birmingham and the statute books of Alabama, they will be enforced in Birmingham to the utmost of my ability and by all lawful means." -- Democrat Bull Connor (1957), Commissioner of Public Safety for Birmingham, Alabama

"I'll have those n*ggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years." -- Lyndon B. Johnson to two governors on Air Force One according Ronald Kessler's Book, "Inside The White House"

(On New York) "K*ketown." -- Harry Truman in a personal letter

"I think one man is just as good as another so long as he's not a n*gger or a Chinaman. Uncle Will says that the Lord made a White man from dust, a nigger from mud, then He threw up what was left and it came down a Chinaman. He does hate Chinese and Japs. So do I. It is race prejudice, I guess. But I am strongly of the opinion Negroes ought to be in Africa, Yellow men in Asia and White men in Europe and America." Harry Truman (1911) in a letter to his future wife Bess

"There''s some people who''ve gone over the state and said, ?'?'Well, George Wallace has talked too strong about segregation.'' Now let me ask you this: how in the name of common sense can you be too strong about it? You''re either for it or you''re against it. There''s not any middle ground as I know of." -- Democratic Alabama Governor George Wallace (1959)

And maybe it could be taken into consideration that many of these Democrats did learn better as society as a whole evolved into a less racist society and few, if any, would make the same statements now. That could generally be said of many of the old school GOP as well. And perhaps the racist rhetoric launched at the GOP is mostly unfounded.

And now gentlemen, you can keep spouting your angry rhetoric, but I shall join the ladies in celebrating an excellent nomination for the Supreme Court.

No matter how you slice it, the bubba vote has been the backbone of the republican party since Harry Trumans' nomination for president.

The Dems are saturated with racists, obviously.

I'm not worried that their racists may be superior to ours.

Lash

I recognize that your last post is tongue in cheek. But previously here, from you, fox and JW the claim has been advanced that the Dems are racist.

This is a destructive form of rhetoric. By that I mean it is destructive to your country's political discourse, thus to your country. That is equally true when made in the converse direction.

Such broad generalities, offered up from partisan positions and geared to smear do not reveal anything true, they merely discourage everyone from thinking carefully and clearly.

For example, with the present SC nominee, someone on the left could begin a PR campaign designed to paint the nomination and the administration and the RNC and Republicans generally as racist and sexist - Roberts is white and male. But such a claim would be disengenuous in the extreme. And its effect, if multiplied and repeated to the point where many considered it to be 'true' would be destructive - because it isn't true. It would be forwarding a falsehood and that helps no one.

Policies and strategies can be racist or sexist (Mehlman speaks of this element in the RNC's "southern strategy") and we understand the role of the contemporaneous Dem party in holding back legislation which, too, was effectively racist policy.

But THAT is the direction where our attention ought to be directed...to specific policies and strategies advanced by anyone which have a racist intent or consequence. And then, we have to be careful to get our data right and not be biased by partisan membership.

I have not seen that any of us have said categorically that the Dems are racist. We have simply expressed our opinions, backed up by stacks of evidence, that the GOP is not the party of racism as you and some others seem to wish to portray it. If you want to go tit for tat using anecdotal evidence for your accusations, we have shown that the Democrats substantially come out worse than the GOP does on that score.

Nobody has said there are no racists in the GOP or that all Democrats are racist. When it comes to political initiatives in these matters however, the GOP's track record is more exemplary (anti-racist) than is the Democrats' track record.

Like Reagan said and Fox apparently agrees "Facts are stupid things"

Commentary: Republican Racism


Racism has become an essential part of the Republican Party's election strategy.
By Mick Youther


Racism is not only alive and well in America, it has become an essential part of the Republican Party's election strategy.

• "[In the 2000 election] tens of thousands of eligible Florida voters were wrongly prevented from casting their ballots--some purged from the voter registries and others blocked from registering in the first instance. Nearly all were Democrats, nearly half of them African-American."-- Gregory Palast, The Nation, 1/18/01 (Bush "won" by only 537 votes.)

• "Supposedly, these were convicted felons forbidden to vote in Florida, but 90% of them turned out to be innocent of any crime--except perhaps Voting While Black."-- Jim Hightower's Lowdown, 4/5/03

The only reason this Republican voting rip-off was exposed in the 2000 Florida election was because of the intense scrutiny brought on by the close Presidential race. If you don't believe they are doing the same thing all across the nation for the 2004 election, I have a bridge I'd like to sell you.

• "If we do not suppress the Detroit vote, we're going to have a tough time in this election cycle."-- State Rep. John Pappageorge (R-Troy), at a meeting of the Oakland County Republican Party, Detroit Free Press, 7/16/04

• "…Republican poll watchers in Arkansas reportedly drove away voters in predominantly black precincts by taking photos and improperly demanding identification during pre-election day balloting in 2002. Recent reports of voter suppression tactics also came from Louisiana, New Jersey, South Carolina, and several other states."-- GayToday, 5/25/03

• "A nationwide review reveals a disturbing pattern in closely contested states of Republican office-holders with close ties to the Bush-Cheney campaign: Remove eligible voters from official rolls and erect barriers to new or young voters and minorities who vote overwhelmingly Democratic."-- Hans Johnson In These Times, 8/20/04

• "The GOP election workers, most of whom live outside the targeted precincts in western and central Louisville, Portland and Newburg, will be on hand to challenge voters who they suspect aren't eligible. …'(They) have only one purpose: to intimidate and suppress votes in the West End and other minority areas,' Tim Longmeyer, chairman of the Jefferson County Democratic Party, said during a news conference yesterday"-- The Courier-Journal (Louisville, KY), 10/23/03

• "This is the endgame strategy the Republican Party has decided to utilize, rather than positive strategies. They are strategizing, ?'How can we get those folks we don't care about from going to the polls?'"-- Rep. Alexander Lipsey (D-Kalamazoo), Detroit Free Press, 7/21/04

Because a high percentage of African Americans vote Democratic, they are an easily identifiable target for voter suppression. Every time Republicans can prevent an African American from registering, or voting, or having their vote counted?-there is a good chance that they have eliminated a vote for the Democrats. This has got to stop.

• "The Voting Rights Act of 1965 was specifically enacted to prevent voter intimidation and suppression. A violation of the act constitutes a felony. The act imposes severe penalties on those who try to disrupt the democratic process, as well it should."-- Detroit Free Press, 7/2704

• "…we're not just going to sit there and wait for it to happen. On Election Day in your cities, my campaign will provide teams of election observers and lawyers to monitor elections, and we will enforce the law."-- John Kerry at the N.A.A.C.P. convention in Philadelphia on Thursday, quoted in the New York Times, 7/19/04

• "…more than 60 nonprofit groups have banded together to form a ?'Voter Protection Coalition.' The group is planning to have 25,000 volunteers -- including 5,000 lawyers -- staff Election Day hotlines, videotape polls and go to court if necessary."-- Jo Becker, Washington Post8/26/04

• "America's Families United, a racial-justice advocacy group that is registering thousands of people, has set up a "voter protection project" to ensure that its new registrants make it onto the rolls, by comparing each new voter list to its own list."-- New York Times, 7/19/04

While George W. Bush speaks of patriotism and democracy, his party conspires to systematically deny African American citizens' their most basic right?-the right to vote. This is not a racism born of ignorance or culture. This is a premeditated racism, designed to illegally deny the vote to as many democrats as possible. This is definitely not the Republican Party of Lincoln.

• "Four decades ago, the opposition to the civil right to vote was easy to identify: night riders wearing white sheets and burning crosses. Today, the threat comes from partisan politicians wearing pinstripe suits and clutching laptops."-- Martin Luther King III and Greg Palast, The Baltimore Sun, 5/8/03

Posted September 20, 2004

If they can take the vote away from one group, they can take it from you. We need to help protect everyone's right to vote. You can email your comments to [email protected]

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<waiting for blatham to show up and chide CI>

You aren't holding your breath while you wait, I trust?

Yeah, good luck with that Lash.