Rove is L'il Abner compared to the outrageous seething hatred of Howard Dean and his maniacs.
He's dragged more divisive rhetoric out in a few months than I've seen in my lifetime.
Dang and triple dang...
Quote:Just over half of Americans, 53 percent, now say the war in Iraq was a mistake -- the highest percentage to say that in AP-Ipsos polling since December 2003, when two-thirds said the war in Iraq was the right thing to do.
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Iraq-Poll-Glance.html
There will be more of the sort of thing Rove got up to in NY with polls trending as they are. Opinion of congress and the RNC is sinking like rotting meat in soup and that will hurt incumbents in 2006 - which means republicans. The unanimity is failing, as was predictable. High profile republicans in congress the senate and elsewhere are differentiating themselves from Bush, from Iraq, and from the more extremist policy initiatives and ideologies. Or one could think of it as a re-emergence of moderates. This isn't lost on the public.
Bush only got 50.7% of the popular vote. A very very narrow margin. Extremism, particularly of the sort his people have been pushing - inimicable to so much in American political and social tradition which more and more folks are beginning to perceive - along with so many dead kids and so much in taxpayer money all sitting on top of deceits...it's all very bad news for the RNC. Rove has to try something. And he does what he always does. Simple as poisenberry pie.
On the plus side...those statues in the Justice Department have tits again.
<sigh> as I said on Tuesday (yes, 3 days ago) in this thread ....
Ticomaya wrote:As ususal, Boortz hits the nail on the head again today:
Quote:AID AND COMFORT TO THE ENEMY
A new CNN USA Today Gallup poll shows that 59% of Americans are now opposed to the war in Iraq. You can be certain that there are celebrations in the Islamofascist strongholds in Saudi Arabia, Iran and Syria at this news. Their plan is working. Sending Islamic goons across the border to Iraq to murder innocent civilians, Iraqi police and American soldiers is having exactly the effect they wanted to have. The American people are losing their resolve. Of course the Islamofascists are being helped a great deal by the American media. A suicide bombing is certain to make the front pages. A story about the benefits of freedom and economic liberty in Iraq won't make it past most editors. We get the day after day coverage of the violence and killings, but no coverage of the improvements in the lives of ordinary Iraqis with Saddam Hussein gone.
The message to the Islamic terrorists is clear. Hold on. The American people are coming to the rescue. The Islamic jihad will survive and Iraq will not be free.
http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1408833#1408833
Yes, Boortz is just so right...Those damned American people. You simply can't trust them to make the proper decisions. How can so many people be so stupid (to paraphrase that post-election Brit paper headline).
On the other hand, had Bush and crowd not lied through their teeth, which the public is finally getting some clear understanding regarding, and had his administration not been so incredibly arrogant and incompetent in the project, and had the project REALLY been about liberation, then this would be a different matter and you and I wouldn't be arguing.
There is no episode of bush-bashing that can equal the hatred and vile evil implied in this "cartoon". It is no less than an abomination.
Rove is a ratfukker. That's not a slur, it is a membership notation. He learned his tricks from the Nixon crowd and ratfukking was their own term for politics done in the style they do it.
Yeah. The rats don't seem to be able to put up much of a contest.
He's fukked em all right.
blatham wrote:Rove is a ratfukker. That's not a slur, it is a membership notation. He learned his tricks from the Nixon crowd and ratfukking was their own term for politics done in the style they do it.
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all convictions, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Now you have fallen to claims of "rat fukking."
blatham, my blatham.
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
Yes but were any actual rats involved? If so take cover, the British animal activists are coming after you:
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"Animal rights activists have unleashed a new arson campaign in the run-up to the introduction of a law next month which could see them jailed for five years for economic sabotage.
Extremists are returning to the tactics of several years ago, using firebombs to attack anyone they perceive as having links to Huntingdon Life Sciences, the Cambridgeshire-based research laboratory. "
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/animalrights/story/0,11917,1514393,00.html
Dick "The MoFo Dick" Durbin makes an utterly outrageous and indefensible comparison between Gitmo and the Nazi concentration camps, the Soviet gulag, and the Kymer Rhogue Killing Fields, and the Leftists fall all over themselves to explain how he was not being a partisan sack of excrement, and that he was (REALLY) being a patriot who acted upon his compulsion to fight the EVIL BUSH!.
Rove then makes a perfectly reasonable comparison between the Conservative and Liberal (NOTE ALL YOU LIBERALS - He did not compare Republicans to Democrats. If Democrats take particular affront at his comments does this mean they acknowldege Democrats and Liberals are synonymous? Odd since most Liberals, of late, run from the moniker like rats from a burning ship. Progressive, not Liberal...please!) reaction to 9/11.
Was it not the initial reaction of Liberals that we should attempt to understand the motivation of the brave (Sontag) freedom fighters of 9/11?
Didn't Chomsky and Moore et al tell us that we needed to study our our own actions and motivations before we called out the 9/11 freedom fighters?
(Pardon me but the proof of the pudding is that a Trostskyite like Chris Hitchens broke ranks with the Left because of the insane sel-loathing of their 9/11 position)
I can go on for pages as to why the Durbin analogies are absurd. For those who find fault with Karl Rove, please give us at least a paragraph on why he is inaccurate.
Let me help you...
All conservatives did not react to 9/11 with preparation for war.
All liberals did not react to 9/11 with idictments and therapy.
However...
Most conservatives did react to 9/11 with preparation for war.
Many liberals did not react to 9/11 with idictments and therapy. (And most Liberals were all too content to lay low among the emotional upheaval of 9/11 only to resurface as typical anti-Americans when the blood of America cooled and the youth's sacrifice began to mount.)
Can it not be more obvious that the outrage of Hilary, Kerry and the Left relative to Rove's, sustainable, comments were a passive aggressive assault against the Republicans and the Right intended, with desperation, to shift the spotlight from Dick "The MoFo Dick" Durbin and his offensive comments and pathetic backtracking?
Tico quotes from Boortz
Quote:We get the day after day coverage of the violence and killings, but no coverage of the improvements in the lives of ordinary Iraqis with Saddam Hussein gone.
Add the fact that we get little or no coverage of acts of heroism and real triumphs, but we get days of front page headlines when any soldier or small group of soldiers is accused of any infraction, and wouldn't you say that is putting our soldiers right square in the cross hairs?
HofT wrote:Yes but were any actual rats involved? If so take cover, the British animal activists are coming after you:
__________________________________________
"Animal rights activists have unleashed a new arson campaign in the run-up to the introduction of a law next month which could see them jailed for five years for economic sabotage.
Extremists are returning to the tactics of several years ago, using firebombs to attack anyone they perceive as having links to Huntingdon Life Sciences, the Cambridgeshire-based research laboratory. "
__________________________________________
http://www.guardian.co.uk/animalrights/story/0,11917,1514393,00.html
"Economic sabotage". Gosh, there's a phrase that holds up a mirror to these very times. The FBI too figure that animal rights activists present the most significant internal danger to murica. Not the Terry Nichols sorts who have bureaucrats properly framed in their rental truck headlights. Nor the Eric Rudolf sorts because, just before aiming the rifle through the kitchen window or before dropping off that little suitcase packed christmas-tight with explosives and fencing nails, they commune with jesus.
Foxfyre wrote:Tico quotes from Boortz
Quote:We get the day after day coverage of the violence and killings, but no coverage of the improvements in the lives of ordinary Iraqis with Saddam Hussein gone.
Add the fact that we get little or no coverage of acts of heroism and real triumphs, but we get days of front page headlines when any soldier or small group of soldiers is accused of any infraction, and wouldn't you say that is putting our soldiers right square in the cross hairs?
Bush avoided the discomfitures of soldiering and crosshairs.
And Rove.
And Cheney.
And Rumsfeld.
And Perle.
And Wolfowitz.
And Andrew Card.
long long list
including all their kids.
Tillman didn't. And these lying cowardly sons of bitches above have fukked his parents around, and fukked gullible US citizens around, and have blown thousands of innocent women and children into little bits of bloody arm and hair and flaming fingers. Really heroic of them. Really naughty of an independent press to point it out.
The thing that I see is that the average Joe American is just disgusted with everybody in charge and don't trust nobody in charge today, democrats or republican, congress or the president. I don't either.
The following is a very interesting poll that i am not sure has been put out yet.
http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politics/983a1Term_II_050607.pdf
Someone's veneer has just peeled off.
If anyone's looking for Bernie, he's out in left field.
He's been out there for months kicking ass and taking names, he's a relentless hunter of the stupid and the mindless or as he calls them, republicans.
Actually, no. I'm 7 5 south of drunk and I have just returned from the grocery store, having ferried my finacee over in a wheelbarrow (she's tipping the top end of an industrial scale these days) and I've smoked a large bowl of the stuff that makes angels sing blues as well as any one picking cotton out in the sun, and I, not sure what to make of this, have a boner.
