Results! Election night'04 ... your armchair expert analysis

"Larry434-
Stop this "bashing" please."

Not bashing, thok.

I posted some news that I am sure some here are interested in and asked a legitimate question.

Why do you want to silence that?

I want not to silence that but , you have your own thread for that
http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=37979

A better way would be [probably], that you link in your post to the thread.

Thanks for the advice. But I prefer to post the news, rather than a link, when it is short enough.

Well.

Wow.

<shakes head>

Bush 254
Kerry 252

To close and they still count;probably days.

I'm going to make a bright side attempt:

If Bush wins:

- Bush has to live with the Iraq mess.
- There will likely be a split within the Republican party as the moderates and conservatives face off.
- Bush has to live with the economy mess.
- The media -- which overwhelmingly endorsed Kerry -- will be chastened by the fact that their softball reportage didn't get through to Americans and will ramp up the intensity
- Colin Powell will speak out once he is no longer in office.
- Bush has to live with the North Korea mess.
- Bush has to live with the NCLB mess.

In sum -- Kerry would have had a terrible upward slog, and could have been blamed for a lot of Bush's failures. Now Bush will have to live with the consequences.

If Kerry wins

- All of the obvious plus sweet karmic payback for 2000.

Franklin county went 54% Kerry vs. 46% Bush. I'm gonna grab that and hope I did the best I could do.

Ohio can take up to 11 days to count. Humph.

Why? Because he is not a falcon in the administration?

Exactly.

Do you mean hawk? Still not sure what you mean.

Colin Powell will not be around for a second term. He is a widely respected man who has suffered through numerous indignities, and has a fraught relationship with many of the people currently in power. I'm hoping that he will speak out against the administration as someone who has seen it all.

It is time for Kerry to concede.The popular vote is the benchmark of an election. Every hour the Dems wait is injurious to our nation.
The provisional vote count in Ohio statistically is a foregone conclusion.
Therefore, for the sake of our nation and our future I would urge the Democratic party to concede.

last time the popular vote didn't seem to do it. i don't want to see anyone to concede until all the votes are counted.

No, Democrats should not concede. There is still hope, and we should keep it alive for as long as possible.

Who the hell are you quoting, panzade?

Kerry should drag this thing out to the very end. Until every single vote is accounted for.

And what could be more injurious to our nation than the presence of George W. Bush?

Yes,hawk.

Thanks.

Yup, Kerry shouldn't concede,if the count is still under way.

Gautam, when the minority leader is defeated in S Dakota, when every Gay-marriage initiative is defeated. When the Republicans GAIN seats in Congress...then this is a mandate for the ruling junta.

I agree panzade. I just think that after 2000, everyone owes it to the voters to count every single one of their votes. If it's a foregone conclusion, it's a foregone conclusion, but I don't think there's room for the tiniest "what if..."

We actually agree on this one Panzade. I think Kerry was right not to concede last night while waiting on a better idea of the numbers of provisional ballots in Ohio. But it should be obvious that eve if there are 250,000 of them, he would have to win better than 75% in order to overcome the lead. That is statistically unreasonable to think it can be done. Just as I think Bush has shown some class by putting off a victory speech, Kerry can show some by admitting what appears to be the inevitable.

As many of us, both repub and dem, have stated on other threads, we do not need a repeat of 2000. And I fear that is the road we are headed down if Kerry decides to drag this out.

That the Democrats minority leader Tom Dashle is defeated in S Dakota is a surprise.