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Results! Election night'04 ... your armchair expert analysis

 
 
ebrown p
 
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Reply Tue 2 Nov, 2004 11:34 pm
It's now 51-49. One analyst just said that the "missing" vote might be the urban vote. Let's see.

It seems certain that Kerry loses without Ohio. I think Ohio will decide it all.
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nimh
 
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Reply Tue 2 Nov, 2004 11:35 pm
And the damn overall numbers have never once veered from Bush 51% Kerry 48% all night ...

Well, anyone who wins the popular vote by 3% should be President, of course.

Gonna wait a little, still ... (hope dies last)
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Tue 2 Nov, 2004 11:39 pm
nimh - what time is it where you are?
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Thok
 
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Reply Tue 2 Nov, 2004 11:40 pm
6:39 am - we are in the same time zone.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Tue 2 Nov, 2004 11:41 pm
Fox news is predicting Bush wins Ohio.
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Tue 2 Nov, 2004 11:41 pm
OHIO GOES TO BUSH!!!
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Fedral
 
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Reply Tue 2 Nov, 2004 11:41 pm
They just called Ohio for President Bush Very Happy
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dlowan
 
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Reply Tue 2 Nov, 2004 11:42 pm
Posting to Headlines Wire of Scoop
Article: Alastair Thompson
Date: Wednesday, 3 November 2004
Time: 6:21 pm NZT



NEWSFLASH: Dirty Tricks In Ohio & More

A SERIES OF SNAPSHOTS FROM ACROSS THE NET CONCERNING THE RACE
IN OHIO. INCLUDED IN THE NARRATIVE ARE:
- A REPUBLICAN EFFORT TO SHUT DOWN THE VOTE IN OHIO;
- 1 MILLION UNCOUNTED ABSENTEE BALLOTS IN FLORIDA;
- SOME STRANGE RESULTS IN A DIEBOLD OHIO COUNTY.

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From Democratic Underground

Some posters are pointing to an abnormal 4600 votes to Green
Party David Cobb in Lucas County as possible evidence of possible
electronic voting fraud.

See. Ohio's Official Results Page:
http://election.sos.state.oh.us/results/RaceDetail.aspx?race=PP

Note: Lucas County uses Diebold vote counting equipment
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From Josh Marshall's Talkingpontsmemo.com

(November 02, 2004 -- 11:01 PM EST)
Now hearing very conflicting word about the legal situation on
the ground in Ohio. Will report when we know more.
-- Josh Marshall
(November 02, 2004 -- 10:40 PM EST)
Why no more network coverage of the flurry of lawsuits across
Ohio? This is what the election is coming down to. And it's not
being reported. Interviews with party chairs, no coverage of
where the election is being decided.
-- Josh Marshall
(November 02, 2004 -- 10:31 PM EST)
Across the board the story is the same in Ohio, a lawsuit strategy
from Republicans is causing delays and shutdowns in precincts
that remained open to allow people who were already in line to
vote. Lawsuits create delays; folks leave.
-- Josh Marshall
(November 02, 2004 -- 09:52 PM EST)
What we're hearing is that Florida is too close to call. In Ohio,
the GOP is pulling out all the stops, frankly, to steal it in
the courts, trying to get courts to stop voting for people who
were already in line when the polls closed, ruling against provisional
ballots, the whole nine yards. It's wall to wall ugly.

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From Daily Kos

Ohio is not out of contention, not as long as the urban areas
(like Cuyahoga county) fail to report in. My brother, who has
been crunching numbers all night (he likes math), makes a persuassive
case that Bush will have a 20K lead in Ohio without absentees
after all urban precincts report. The absentees would decide
the race.

Florida won't be called tonight, not without so many absentee
ballots outstanding (1 million). I don't feel good about Florida,
but those absentees are mostly from Dem areas according to MSNBC.
It's not over.

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From Kevin Drum

LAWYERS CONVERGING ON OHIO....It sounds like Ohio is about to
become ground zero for the legal profession of America. I think
we're about to find out how many lawyers can dance on the head
of a ballot marker.

(continuing)
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Tue 2 Nov, 2004 11:42 pm
Thok, are you up early, or up late (like that made statistician)?
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kelticwizard
 
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Reply Tue 2 Nov, 2004 11:42 pm
People have to wait in line because of not enough voting machines. What a crock.

Even if the percentage goes up to 75%, so what?

Why not just put up enough voting machines to handle ALL the voters, even if 100% of them vote? How much does a voting machine cost?

Something is up. Apparently the Presidency is going to be decided by the number of people who have an attack of diarrhea and have to leave the line.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 2 Nov, 2004 11:43 pm
Sad to see it.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Tue 2 Nov, 2004 11:44 pm
PLEASE not more lawyers and such - even if the bastard is gonna win, I would think a clean, acknowledged by all win, would be far better for America - not all the "non-President" and such again.
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kickycan
 
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Reply Tue 2 Nov, 2004 11:44 pm
I just saw on the BBC that they retracted their call on Florida! It's a race again!
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Fedral
 
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Reply Tue 2 Nov, 2004 11:45 pm
dlowan must have had that queued up and waiting to post since Bush took the lead in Ohio earlier tonight.

When you loose fairly, accuse, accuse, accuse...

Right out of the Democratic Handbook.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Tue 2 Nov, 2004 11:45 pm
Knox County Ohio has had people in line for 13 hours... they are just finishing now. Shocked
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Thok
 
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Reply Tue 2 Nov, 2004 11:46 pm
Ticomaya wrote:
Fox news is predicting Bush wins Ohio.


Says Fox News. CNN projects that John Kerry will win Oregon's seven electoral votes
Projections in general suggest John Kerry will take Minnesota and all four votes from Maine.


OCCOM BILL wrote:
Thok, are you up early, or up late (like that made statistician)?


Up early.
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nimh
 
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Reply Tue 2 Nov, 2004 11:46 pm
Doing another state-by-state comparison of the current score with the last polls from that state and the 2000 results ...

ALABAMA
2000: Bush +15%
Last polls: Bush +19%
Current: Bush +25%
95% of precincts reporting

ARIZONA
2000: Bush +6%
Last polls: Bush +11%
Current: Bush +11%
88% of precincts reporting

CONNECTICUT
2000: Gore +17%
Last polls: Kerry +8%
Current: Kerry +8%
82% of precincts reporting

DELAWARE
2000: Gore +13%
Last polls: Kerry +6%
Current: Kerry +7%
95% of precincts reporting

DC
2000: Gore +76%
Last polls: Kerry +65%
Current: Kerry +81%
100% of precincts reporting

FLORIDA
2000: Gore +0%
Last polls: Bush +2%
Current: Bush +5%
98% of precincts reporting

GEORGIA
2000: Bush +12%
Last polls: Bush +13%
Current: Bush +19%
96% of precincts reporting

ILLINOIS
2000: Gore +12%
Last polls: Kerry +11%
Current: Kerry +13%
85% of precincts reporting

INDIANA
2000: Bush +16%
Last polls: Bush +19%
Current: Bush +21%
94% of precincts reporting

KANSAS
2000: Bush +21%
Last polls: Bush +24%
Current: Bush +26%
75% of precincts reporting

KENTUCKY
2000: Bush +15%
Last polls: Bush +19%
Current: Bush +20%
99% of precincts reporting

LOUISIANA
2000: Bush +8%
Last polls: Bush +12%
Current: Bush +15%
98% of precincts reporting

MARYLAND
2000: Gore +16%
Last polls: Kerry +13%
Current: Kerry +13%
87% of precincts reporting

MASSACHUSETTS
2000: Gore +27%
Last polls: Kerry +35%
Current: Kerry +25%
96% of precincts reporting

MISSISSIPPI
2000: Bush +17%
Last polls: Bush +11%
Current: Bush +19%
78% of precincts reporting

MISSOURI
2000: Bush +3%
Last polls: Bush +4%
Current: Bush +6%
78% of precincts reporting

NEW HAMPSHIRE
2000: Bush +1%
Last polls: Kerry +2%
Current: Kerry +1%
83% of precincts reporting

NEW JERSEY
2000: Gore +16%
Last polls: Kerry +7%
Current: Kerry +7%
99% of precincts reporting

NEW YORK
2000: Gore +25%
Last polls: Kerry +18%
Current: Kerry +18%
98% of precincts reporting

NORTH CAROLINA
2000: Bush +13%
Last polls: Bush +8%
Current: Bush +12%
87% of precincts reporting

NORTH DAKOTA
2000: Bush +28%
Last polls: Bush +31%
Current: Bush +28%
83% of precincts reporting

OHIO
2000: Bush +4%
Last polls: Bush +1%
Current: Bush +3%
79% of precincts reporting

OKLAHOMA
2000: Bush +22%
Last polls: Bush +29%
Current: Bush +32%
98% of precincts reporting

PENNSYLVANIA
2000: Gore +4%
Last polls: Kerry +2%
Current: Kerry +5%
88% of precincts reporting

RHODE ISLAND
2000: Gore +29%
Last polls: Kerry +16%
Current: Kerry +21%
99% of precincts reporting

SOUTH CAROLINA
2000: Bush +16%
Last polls: Bush +13%
Current: Bush +17%
93% of precincts reporting

SOUTH DAKOTA
2000: Bush +22%
Last polls: Bush +15%
Current: Bush +22%
75% of precincts reporting

TENNESSEE
2000: Bush +4%
Last polls: Bush +13%
Current: Bush +14%
98% of precincts reporting

VERMONT
2000: Gore +10%
Last polls: Kerry +10%
Current: Kerry +20%
92% of precincts reporting

VIRGINIA
2000: Bush +8%
Last polls: Bush +4%
Current: Bush +9%
99% of precincts reporting

WEST-VIRGINIA
2000: Bush +6%
Last polls: Bush +7%
Current: Bush +12%
74% of precincts reporting

WYOMING
2000: Bush +40%
Last polls: Bush +38%
Current: Bush +36%
77% of precincts reporting
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 2 Nov, 2004 11:46 pm
hmmmm.
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kelticwizard
 
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Reply Tue 2 Nov, 2004 11:46 pm
CNN just had an analyst doing a county-by-county analysis showing that it is going to be tough for Kerry to win Ohio.

It looks like if there is a victory for Kerry, it will be in the courtroom through "provisonal ballots", not by any vote counts tonight.
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Tue 2 Nov, 2004 11:48 pm
It's 12:50 here. I don't think I can go to bed any time soon. Are you all here for the long run.

I need company (and my wife is much more sane than I and comfortably in bed) Wink
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