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Views of the US election from non-US folk

 
 
Cobalt8
 
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Reply Sun 7 Nov, 2004 12:42 am
Well as ridiculous as this is getting its seems this argument is winding itself down. I am assuming after this round there will be one more consisting of fonts used.

Nouns, verbs, dialect, laws, and most other things change when you are 12,000 miles away but you are now into linguistic nuances.


attempt - noun - an effort or try.
attempted - verb - perform
attempting - verb - to try
attempts - verb - intention



If a person says sorry and kicks your dog on the way out is considered an apology in your country; well than you might want to know that not only is it not an apology it is an insult in mine.




literary - well its not the write or talk it is the type. Never learned how and have a tendency to type those kind of mistakes.




Good lord just read the rest of it ... your nuts.




This has nothing to do with verbs, nouns, spelling, but it deals with a lie and immature individuals who do not have the wisdom to stop beating a dead horse. You repeated a lie your media told you and used it as your justification of being anti-bush. When it was proven to be a lie; you than told the forum you were not talking about Kyoto; when that was proven to be a lie; you than attempted to challenge my intellectual abilities some how believing that if you could prove them to be lacking than it would justify your lie. Well lets try out that theory.

I Cobalt am a moronic idiot!

No it did not work your still a liar
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Cobalt8
 
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Reply Sun 7 Nov, 2004 12:56 am
I would make a remark about the additional treaties you brought up but it would just expand things.

Lets try this, your Government is telling you lies. From what you have posted I guess mostly lies. If my Government had the ability to do that than I would be forced to verify everything on the internet. In my country the Government is not allowed to own, control, or interfere with any news/media. The 2nd Amendment guaranties it.

You might want to add one of those 2nd Amendment things in your constitution.
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Cobalt8
 
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Reply Sun 7 Nov, 2004 01:13 am
One last thing, the reason Americans strongly strongly resent other countries or their people telling us how to vote is the simple fact that we are aware that in most cases only Americans know the truth. My guess is that is why the Founding Fathers placed it in the Constitution.

I can not imagine watching the news and having to guess what is true. If the government controls the media how do you ever have fair elections? More precisely are you being told lies to further the governments needs over your needs?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 7 Nov, 2004 02:29 am
Cobalt8 wrote:
One last thing, the reason Americans strongly strongly resent other countries or their people telling us how to vote is the simple fact that we are aware that in most cases only Americans know the truth. My guess is that is why the Founding Fathers placed it in the Constitution.


"I am The Lord your God, Who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me."
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Cobalt8
 
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Reply Sun 7 Nov, 2004 02:33 am
Now that is not funny it is best not to make fun of the Lord. Yes we respect the men that founded our country.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 7 Nov, 2004 02:40 am
Well, I didn't make any fun at all.

I do think, however, it is deepest blaspemia, when someone claims thet only she/he/they the thruth.

As said by The Lord: You shall have no other gods before Me.
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Cobalt8
 
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Reply Sun 7 Nov, 2004 02:59 am
Well i guess the Lord part is true I think I misunderstood your remark.

As for claiming I am right well I/he/she/it/ never claimed I was right.

Matter of fact Walter as I recall it was HofT that proved my position.

I am Clay a 44 year old male.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sun 7 Nov, 2004 05:33 am
Cobalt8 wrote:
One last thing, the reason Americans strongly strongly resent other countries or their people telling us how to vote is the simple fact that we are aware that in most cases only Americans know the truth. My guess is that is why the Founding Fathers placed it in the Constitution.

I can not imagine watching the news and having to guess what is true. If the government controls the media how do you ever have fair elections? More precisely are you being told lies to further the governments needs over your needs?


Dear goddess - are you people really drunk with your power and insularity, or - as I hope it is - was that an attempt to say that only Americans know the truth ABOUT AMERICA?

One is so stupendously ridiculous that it is sort of funny (as long as no other Americans believe it) - the other is, in some senses a no brainer - and in others also ridiculous.

You see, people outside our countries may well have very valid views about our country - they will not, generally, know the detail and flavour as inhabitants do, but nor, if they have researched well and have an informed opinion, are they blinded by the emotional attachments of inhabitants, and may also have a far more balanced view given their ability not to be consumed by the Weltenschaung of that country.

This is just the beginning of why I believe that people from other countries may well know a lot of the "truth" about our countries. There are many more reasons which I do not have time to go into now.

It is, indeed, annoying when people speak with ignorance - but we often react with blind defensiveness to perfectly reasonable comments - sometimes the more true they are, the more we react.

Neither you nor I should DARE to say that people from another country cannot know the truth about ours - both our countries having been involved recently in the invasion of another sovereign country, and the slaughter of many of its inhabitants, based on thinking we knew the truth about that country.
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Cobalt8
 
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Reply Sun 7 Nov, 2004 06:16 am
Good Lord of course it says only Americans know America. For that matter we do not view us as any power, now as drunk yes. You know this is beginning to give me quite the headache. Why is it you read so much in nothing. I mention the folk that wrote our constitution the "Founding Fathers" and get basically accused of declaring America God. Are you guys that nuts.
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Cobalt8
 
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Reply Sun 7 Nov, 2004 06:49 am
Well for reasons I am not sure of you have made your views known and Australia a country that I respected and admired I now consider an enemy of the United States of America. It seems your Government has told you lies to further their short term political goals. Unfortunately, you might need us in the long run. Good Luck To Ya
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msolga
 
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Reply Sun 7 Nov, 2004 06:51 am
OK.

Bye
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gozmo
 
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Reply Sun 7 Nov, 2004 07:05 am
Cobalt8 wrote:
One last thing, the reason Americans strongly strongly resent other countries or their people telling us how to vote is the simple fact that we are aware that in most cases only Americans know the truth. My guess is that is why the Founding Fathers placed it in the Constitution.

I can not imagine watching the news and having to guess what is true. If the government controls the media how do you ever have fair elections? More precisely are you being told lies to further the governments needs over your needs?


A reasonable reader of the above will interpret your comments as meaning ,unreservedly, exactly what you said :

"in most cases only Americans know the truth."

Wriggle as you will, you cannot escape the clarity of what you said. I'm not surprised your head is aching after committing that absurdity to permanent record.
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gozmo
 
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Reply Sun 7 Nov, 2004 07:14 am
Cobalt8 wrote:
Well for reasons I am not sure of you have made your views known and Australia a country that I respected and admired I now consider an enemy of the United States of America. It seems your Government has told you lies to further their short term political goals. Unfortunately, you might need us in the long run. Good Luck To Ya


Having this illustration of the manner in which you arrive at your conclusions is very instructive as to the source of your earlier BS.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sun 7 Nov, 2004 07:23 am
Cobalt8 wrote:
Well for reasons I am not sure of you have made your views known and Australia a country that I respected and admired I now consider an enemy of the United States of America. It seems your Government has told you lies to further their short term political goals. Unfortunately, you might need us in the long run. Good Luck To Ya


Tragically, our current government is a conservative lackey of your own - speaking of ignorance about others' countries - and please do not pull that crap about us needing you - this country has fought in many of your very stupidest wars - like Iraq and Vietnam - for the sake of the alliance.

The lies our government spreads are the same os those yours does - and in support of yours.

This will, I believe, be a lasting shame for our country, just as Vietnam is.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sun 7 Nov, 2004 07:25 am
" For that matter we do not view us as any power, now as drunk yes. You know this is beginning to give me quite the headache. Why is it you read so much in nothing."

Perhaps you might elucidate this comment on your way out?

I am sure nobody else could.
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Cobalt8
 
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Reply Sun 7 Nov, 2004 08:22 am
Never said I was going anywhere and yes we have been in every war together. I think we have grown to hate each other I for one would miss the special bond we have formed.
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Cobalt8
 
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Reply Sun 7 Nov, 2004 08:28 am
A lasting shame as Vietnam was you said. I agree on Vietnam not sure if they knew why we fought that one but on this one things are a bit different. They have said it will not stop until all democracies are dissolved and converted to Islam. As I recall that would include us ... umm ... and you.
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Cobalt8
 
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Reply Sun 7 Nov, 2004 08:30 am
Read them all again you kids do have a certain humor about you.
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Cobalt8
 
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Reply Sun 7 Nov, 2004 08:46 am
dlowan before you take part of posts out of context you might want to read the ones above it. It is nice to meet you also.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sun 7 Nov, 2004 01:45 pm
You'll be back Cobalt8 - clearly you're hooked.
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