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Paul Johnson: Quite simply, Kerry must be stopped

 
 
gungasnake
 
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Reply Thu 21 Oct, 2004 06:44 am
georgeob1 wrote:
This is hardly the most closely or bitterly fought of our Presidential elections. Jefferson - Adams was the first of many bitter ones and there have been many since then.


Difference is, the republic was not jeopardized in that election, i.e. either man could win without a major calamity ensuing.

A Kerry presidency on the other hand would be the sort of disaster which nations do not recover from. It would essentially amount to handing the keys to the assylum straight over to the lunatics.
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Einherjar
 
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Reply Thu 21 Oct, 2004 06:46 am
gungasnake wrote:
A Kerry presidency on the other hand would be the sort of disaster which nations do not recover from. It would essentially amount to handing the keys to the assylum straight over to the lunatics.


How so?
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 21 Oct, 2004 10:17 am
gungasnake wrote:
georgeob1 wrote:
This is hardly the most closely or bitterly fought of our Presidential elections. Jefferson - Adams was the first of many bitter ones and there have been many since then.


Difference is, the republic was not jeopardized in that election, i.e. either man could win without a major calamity ensuing.

A Kerry presidency on the other hand would be the sort of disaster which nations do not recover from. It would essentially amount to handing the keys to the assylum straight over to the lunatics.


The lunatics have the keys right now, Gunga...we're trying to get them back!
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Thu 21 Oct, 2004 11:57 am
McTag writes:

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I disagree. GWB has dragged the country to the lowest point in its history in terms of its morality and its disregard of ecological restraints and observance of international law. He has murdered tens of thousands of innocent people in an illegal war, and lied to justify it.

Despite all the smug selfrighteousness you will see here, the USA has now reached its lowest point in terms of its standing internationally, thanks largely to our boy.


Boy, I couldn't agree with you more, McTag. Such are the many drawbacks of living in the most powerful, all consuming country on the planet.

Corporate greed has taken over American politics, and is driving the media to completely drop the ball in just about any kind of objective journalism.

When you hear that the youth of our country rely more on the Daily Show with John Stewart for their actual news than regular media outlets, one can only take pause and reflect on the spiraling credibility of the US.

Most of Europe, and the world, really do not like the idiot savant in the Oval Office. That would also include roughly half of our country. Bush's only chance of winning this November 2nd will be to pander to his neoconservative religious zealots who are hellbent on world domination based on their self-righteous beliefs.

I always reflect on a line from the first Star Wars that says it all regarding this current administration and their attempt to steal another election:

"Fear will keep the local systems in line. Fear of this battle station."
-- uttered brilliantly by the late Peter Cushing
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Thu 21 Oct, 2004 11:58 am
Gungasnake:

What have you been smoking?
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jdr56789
 
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Reply Thu 21 Oct, 2004 12:16 pm
Edwards ???
If (God forbid) Kerry should be elected, and then if (God forbid) something should happen to him, either illness or injury, are you Democrats prepared to have Edwards as President. He was planning on losing his Senate seat after one term and going back to lawyering.

Think about it and be honest with yourselves. Edwards as Commander in Chief?
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 21 Oct, 2004 12:18 pm
Better than Cheney. He's the devil.

Cycloptichorn
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 21 Oct, 2004 12:18 pm
Re: Edwards ???
jdr56789 wrote:
If (God forbid) Kerry should be elected, and then if (God forbid) something should happen to him, either illness or injury, are you Democrats prepared to have Edwards as President. He was planning on losing his Senate seat after one term and going back to lawyering.

Think about it and be honest with yourselves. Edwards as Commander in Chief?



Think about the moron, George Bush, as Commander in Chief!!!

That is much, much, much more scary.
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Thu 21 Oct, 2004 12:21 pm
jdr56789:

My guess is Kerry will surround himself (as well as Edwards) with competent administration personnel, vs. the idiots who came back from prior administrations to serve under Bush and who basically screwed the world, as well as this country.

I have no problem with that. The fact that you have no problem with Cheney is much more telling.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Thu 21 Oct, 2004 12:27 pm
Dookiestix wrote:


When you hear that the youth of our country rely more on the Daily Show with John Stewart for their actual news than regular media outlets, one can only take pause and reflect on the spiraling credibility of the US.


Near as I can tell, you could get your news from Mad Magazine or comic books and you'd be doing better than watching cBS.

What have I been smoking, you ask?? It's called, REALITY, something several of you guys don't seem to get exposed to much.

The basic reality is that coming out of the depression in the 30s, the dem party never acquired any new skills, and basically never learned how to do anything other than represent "victims", real or imagined. They do not know how to represent anybody who is capable of surviving on their own.

They do not represent anybody who could support a political party either in terms of votes or money, nonetheless they believe they have some God-given right to rule and they believe it does not matter what they have to do or how much damage they have to do to our country to accomplish this.

Thus we find them out raising money in foreign lands, usually by trying to sell off national assets at ten cents or less on the dollar to supplement monies from George Soros and their billionaire contingent, and trying to drag the entire bottom half of the human condition to the polls in busses like Hitler used to do and, since no normal or right person would want anything to do with such dealings, we increasingly observe them running psychically flawed charactes for president and other high offices since that's all the talent they attract anymore.

This is now leading to calls for psychiatric evaluations of potential presidential candidates:

http://chronwatch.com/content/contentDisplay.asp?aid=10510

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Beware the Elegant Evil of John Kerry
Written by Maureen Scott
Wednesday, October 20, 2004


When President Bush refers to the ''Evil Empire,'' he needs to add one more entity: The ''State of Kerry.'' Mental state, that is. Just as we fear the irrational people who embrace terrorism, we have to fear the irrational state of Kerry's mind.

The main difference between the candidates is that Bush speaks out against evil and fights our enemies in order to defend our country. In contrast, Kerry speaks out against Bush in order to advance his own image. He should take heed in the words of Will Durant, ''To speak ill of another is a dishonest way of praising ourselves.''

Kerry has consistently hurt, insulted, twisted, skewed, blamed, called names, and even targeted private citizens, staff members, former Vietnam vets, and recently our coalition partners and international dignitaries. He should pay close attention to the time-honored warning: ''Honi soit qui mal y pense'' (Evil to him who evil thinks).
Kerry has reduced his campaign to a simple, yet nasty, contest between his socialist beliefs and a more responsible and realistic view of the presidency and our nation's foundation as a republic. His 20-year liberal voting record against all of our military, defense, and intelligence budgets proves that he has no sense of allegiance to our country.

During this campaign, he has so alienated half the country that even if he became president, he would face a nation he has tried to destroy with his attacks. When he addresses various groups, he feigns concern for the moment because his sole desire is to be liked and popular. He spews forth ''policy'' statements to satisfy and target special-interest groups, but then abandons them when he is challenged--or when the polls go down! Like a high school adolescent, Kerry wants to be part of all the cliques so he demeans those not there at the moment. Clearly, he never grew up, never left those teenage uncertainties behind him.

He tells the country he is ''looking out for us,'' but continually tries to widen the divide by pitting rich against poor and fomenting antagonism among ethnic and racial groups, those with differing sexual preferences, religious groups, etc. No wonder his campaign's theme is ''Two Americas''!

Kerry has always played it safe by avoiding controversy and challenges--i.e. his ''do nothing'' senatorial record, and his early leave from action in Vietnam. He has rarely stood independently strong; he prefers to stand in the middle. He is afraid of making unpopular decisions, even when they are necessary. As a candidate he has been unable to elaborate on his so-called ''plans.'' He is not a leader. He is a follower.

Kerry has presented only glimpses of some of his ideas, but he always couches or prefaces them with derision of President Bush. He has never uttered an idea of his own without making a comparison that was based on half-truths or campaign spin about the president's policies. Evidently he ignored his mother's deathbed words to him: ''Integrity, integrity, integrity.''

The most apparent trait Kerry has developed is his well-hewed skill for pointing fingers and finding fault. Does he really think intelligent people will have faith in him just because he says he can ''do better'' without even being sure what he will do? It is obvious that he is not really sure what he will do.

Surely, Kerry's need to discredit President Bush is founded in his own uncertainties. Like the schoolyard bully with the loud mouth, he takes action only to put others down. He reminds us of the kid no one really liked, but whom we were cautious to oppose because he could callously hurt our feelings by using cutting criticisms. Or the inept boss who never really understood the company but was prepared to blame everyone else for problems that he, himself, failed to resolve.

Psychologists might say it appears that he is unstable, has low self-esteem, and is even pathetic in his need to be liked. He hides his insecurity by an outward display of knowledge, a feigned understanding, and staged performances in a field that feeds the needs of his ego. I doubt that he entered politics because he was driven by a desire to do good for others. More likely, his career was molded around his desire to be recognized, seem important, and to emulate the Kennedy image that he has sought so hard to evoke. In the process, he never developed any semblance of authenticity.

Even his ''heroic'' Vietnam experience is suspect. It seems that, in his heart of hearts, Kerry made the decision to go to Vietnam after college because he (1) was denied a draft deferment and couldn't imagine serving as an enlisted member, and (2) chose the better of two inevitable options--to serve as an officer. That suited his career objectives and the ''imitation of a Kennedy'' standard that punctuated all his goals.

He had no deep desire to defend his country and inside he knows that. His stint in the military was a ploy for future use and reference. When in battle and faced with the reality of war, he very quickly found a way to get out. He did not stay and fight the fight, like so many thousands of others did who had received far more serious wounds. He abandoned his fellow soldiers and ran back to the comfort and relief of home shores and clean sheets. As a ''decorated'' soldier he felt that he had the credibility to speak out to an audience--even an enemy audience. Today he cynically touts the medals he threw away.

As a senator, Kerry continued his tradition of ineffective leadership by opting for the non-combative sidelines. He is the type of character who chooses only to curse the weather rather than fight the storm. He hides in the safe shelters of non-activity until all the dust has settled and then criticizes the actions of others.

Now, however, he cannot hide. His true persona and record have been exposed. His emotionless, mechanical--albeit temporarily effective--debating skills are just lines from a well-rehearsed skit that momentarily conceal his inner lack of strength and character. In a debate, Kerry covers his insecurities by being ''robotic'' and memorizing facts well so as to appear secure in his stance. He would do well to remember the words of John F. Kennedy: ''If we are strong, our strength will speak for itself. If we are weak, words will be of no value.''

With an entourage of drama coaches, Hollywood make-up artists, plastic surgeons, and non-cohesive advisors, Kerry creates a new Kerry every day. More than a ''flip-flopper,'' we see Kerry as the ''Play-dough'' candidate. Take him out of the can, shape him one way or another, make him look ''pretty,'' plug in some words from today's advisor, and put him out there. Then put him back into the can to reshape him tomorrow. He cannot stand long because, in actuality, he only has feet of clay. There is no real heart, and no soul that guides him.

Adding Kerry to the ''Evil Empire'' is logical in this sense: Evil empires take their roots in misguided, self-serving, and evil leadership. Let's remember Saddam: well groomed, clean-shaven, immaculately dressed, obsessed with his appearance, smiling widely, speaking convincingly, feigning empathy for his own people, living lavishly, and conveying a sociopath's crafty intelligence, absence of genuine feelings and immense sadism.

His only vulnerability, it seemed, was his deep insecurity. Thus he was ready to destroy anyone who opposed him--particularly if they had intellectual or ideological differences. He demoralized the citizenry until they were dependent on earning his ''good will.'' They acquiesced and chose to appear supportively grateful to the government. Saddam's people could not jeopardize themselves by arousing his anger.

Kerry seeks to make people dependent on the government, as opposed to relying on their own capabilities. When people are told they are part of some ''unfortunate group that has to be helped,'' they give up, and they loose desire to advance, be creative or inventive. It becomes easier to just accept and be thankful. Therefore, they never advance. Fear keeps people dependent; fear gives the leaders control. Inside Saddam there was a seething, rotting, insecure person who ruled by frightening others. He was the epitome of a Pandora's box. In a psychological comparison, is Kerry much different?

I think it is time for a professional analysis of political candidates' personalities. In the corporate world, psychological tests are often the norm for positions of authority. During campaigns we consider all other aspects of the people we want to lead us, so why not a psychological evaluation of their mental makeup as well? We are not just dependent on their actions; we are also dependent on what psychological motives direct their actions.

Look into Kerry. What is showing is a very uncertain, self-indulgent, belligerent, Machiavellian man beneath that well-packaged, glamorized facade. To paraphrase an old adage: ''We looked for the evil...and the evil was within.''

Or maybe George Washington, in his farewell address in 1796, said it best in warning against the likes of a candidate like Kerry: ''Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism.''

About the Writer: Maureen Scott formerly ran a writing service for professionals and was a fundraiser for the National Republican Senatorial Committee. She and her retired-serviceman husband live in Virginia. She also volunteers for the American Red Cross. Maureen receives e-mail at [email protected].

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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 21 Oct, 2004 12:27 pm
Sorry, you may dislike them, but the administration in office right now is one of the most experienced, smartest, shrewdest and best we have had. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Powell, Bush, Ashcroft and the rest are all proven diplomats and public servants.

It's not neccessary that everyone agree with their politics, but to deny their background in politics is fool hardy and to denigrate them makes one look like a fool.
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Thu 21 Oct, 2004 12:30 pm
Quite simply, I ask again, this time with feeling:

What the HELL have you been smoking? Forget the "French" label neoconservative idiots insist on bestowing on Kerry. Now it's "elegant evil."

God you guys are pathetically desperate in these final days. Get ready for a Kerry presidency, and get ready for some changes in the White House and in the world (thank god!).
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Thu 21 Oct, 2004 12:41 pm
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Sorry, you may dislike them, but the administration in office right now is one of the most experienced, smartest, shrewdest and best we have had. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Powell, Bush, Ashcroft and the rest are all proven diplomats and public servants.


My god, you have got to be kidding. Proven diplomats? Proven diplomatic failures is more like it. The coalition of the leaving is currently taking place, and the world hates us more than ever, and it's not because of the American people.

For such smart, shrewd, and best that we've had, they've sure done a fine job of completely screwing things up for this country.

But on the diplomatic front...

http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/dictators/saddam-hussein/Rumsfeld-vs-Saddam.gif

http://www.robertscheer.com/1_natcolumn/01_columns/052201.htm

http://www.aljazeerah.info/News%20archives/2004%20News%20archives/May/5%20n/50%20US%20Diplomats%20Criticize%20Bush's%20Diplomacy%20in%20the%20Middle%20East.htm

http://www.aynrand.org/site/News2?JServSessionIdr006=07ufdjwsy1.app1a&page=NewsArticle&id=7743&news_iv_ctrl=1256

To be clear: Bush's administration is the worst I have ever seen; worse the Reagan, worse than Carter, worse than Nixon. A delusional approach to defending this moron is probably not in your best interest come November 2nd.
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McTag
 
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Reply Thu 21 Oct, 2004 12:42 pm
I like the implications behind that slogan, too: "Kerry must be stopped". It sounds like the Reps are on the run. A bit panicky, a bit desperate. Nothing positive to say, nothing that anyone will believe anyway.

Let's hope that's right.
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Thu 21 Oct, 2004 12:45 pm
McTag:

I believe you are correct in that assumption. Isn't if funny that the Reps are crying "fear mongering" after the unbelievable "fear mongering" tripe they've trotted out in these few waning days before November 2nd?
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Thu 21 Oct, 2004 12:54 pm
McGentrix:

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It's not neccessary that everyone agree with their politics, but to deny their background in politics is fool hardy and to denigrate them makes one look like a fool.


Well, you've done a splendid job of denigrating Kerry and Edwards as well, so I guess that makes you the monkey's uncle.

Speaking of backgrounds:

http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Dick_Cheney

http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Donald_Rumsfeld

http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=John_Ashcroft
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 21 Oct, 2004 12:54 pm
Dookiestix, you keep showing that picture as though it means something. Do you understand what it is that picture shows? Do you understand the politics behind it or are you using it as a "Gotcha!!"?

The context you use it makes me doubt you understand what it is all about.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 21 Oct, 2004 12:55 pm
McGentrix wrote:
Sorry, you may dislike them, but the administration in office right now is one of the most experienced, smartest, shrewdest and best we have had. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Powell, Bush, Ashcroft and the rest are all proven diplomats and public servants.


If you think this group respresents the best we have...you are more in denial than even I think you are.

This is without a doubt the most incompetent administration ever assembled during my lifetime.


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It's not neccessary that everyone agree with their politics, but to deny their background in politics is fool hardy and to denigrate them makes one look like a fool.


Yes...they have a background in politicas. So did Hitler...so did Stalin...so did Chamberlain...so did Nero.

Gimme a break, McG.

I said some nice things about you last night before diving into the sidewalk with my face.
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Thu 21 Oct, 2004 12:56 pm
McGentrix:

You keep attempting to offer up redeeming values for this current administration like it means something.

Why don't you tell us what the "politics" are behind the picture? I'm real curious to hear your take on it.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 21 Oct, 2004 01:00 pm
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Dookiestix, you keep showing that picture as though it means something. Do you understand what it is that picture shows? Do you understand the politics behind it or are you using it as a "Gotcha!!"?


It shows how we have 'flip-flopped' on our position on Hussein.

It's not like we didn't know Saddam was bad when we sold him weapons and chemicals in the 80's.... many of the 'most experienced, smartest, shrewdest' leaders that you point to were proponents of Saddam just 20 years ago, WHILE he was gassing and killing all the people that we now condemn him for.

The picture highlights the inconsistencies in what your ' most experienced, smartest, shrewdest' leaders have done over the years.

Cycloptichorn
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