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Never forget. Some need a reminder. Powerful video clip

 
 
Xena
 
Reply Sat 16 Oct, 2004 10:43 am
We must never forget...It seems many of us have. This is a reminder for all of us.

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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Sat 16 Oct, 2004 10:46 am
if we do not approve of bush and his big iraq adventure then we've forgotten 9/11, don't appreciate our military, don't care about terrorism and love the french....could you post more of an ignant, partisan cliche?
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 16 Oct, 2004 10:50 am
Oh god! Not that thing again.

I do remember, and I find that drivel an absolute insult both to me and to the people who died.
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panzade
 
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Reply Sat 16 Oct, 2004 10:53 am
The families of the survivors and the victims have begged the candidates not to use images of 9/11 to further their agendas.
A trip to the hearing center for you Xena.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Sat 16 Oct, 2004 10:55 am
let us not forget the Oklahoma city bombings either...I suggest we round up all caucasian Midwestern Christian boys who look like they might be in frats and move them to internment camps.....
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 16 Oct, 2004 10:56 am
My friend who died there would be sick - and amused, in a black way - if he could see that thing.

As would his family.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Sat 16 Oct, 2004 10:58 am
Can we remember respectfully, keep our eye on the ball and at the same time not go off the deep end? Apparently not....sad....
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willow tl
 
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Reply Sat 16 Oct, 2004 11:01 am
Thanks Deb because my response is not as kind to the sender...in fact it angers me ....and if i could post what i really thought of the person(s) who made this i would be kicked off A2K ...how dare YOU continue to use fear and the loss of thousands of lives as a political motivation for patriotism...it sickens me!
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Magus
 
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Reply Sat 16 Oct, 2004 11:35 am
"lest we forget"... I remember the Maine, and Pearl Harbor, and the Holocaust/Hitler's Death camps, and VietNam.

And I remember Watergate.

The fact that corrupt politicos from the Watergate dirty-tricks contingent have managed to re-emerge at Pennsylvania Ave. is alarming, indeed...
much more so than any anomalous terrorist attack from a cadre of wackos.
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panzade
 
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Reply Sat 16 Oct, 2004 12:30 pm
Thanks for remembering Watergate Magus. I was living in DC at the time, in fact my fathers office was on the same floor.

This might sound like heresy to a lot of folks but I agree with Magus: That the break-in's, although there was no loss of life, were far more a threat to our freedoms and the American way of democracy.
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willow tl
 
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Reply Sat 16 Oct, 2004 12:35 pm
What have we forgotten Xena?

have we forgotten that the war in Iraq is unjust and predicated on a lie?

have we forgotten the people who perpetrated this act of terror on american soil?

have we found the terrorist behind 9/11?


just wondering..us inquisitive patriots want to know...
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Xena
 
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Reply Sat 16 Oct, 2004 02:01 pm
panzade wrote:
The families of the survivors and the victims have begged the candidates not to use images of 9/11 to further their agendas.
A trip to the hearing center for you Xena.


When you refer the the "9-11" families, you don't know what your talking about. Just because a few "NJ girls" and some others are offened, doesn't mean they speak for all the families. Just get that straight..

http://911familiesforamerica.org/

"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my children will know peace." -- Thomas Paine

An Open Letter to America

Three years ago, on the day that began as a beautiful September morning, 19 men and their sponsors carried out a brutal and devastating attack on our country, leaving 3,000 innocent men, women and children dead, including our loved ones. In those first agonizing hours, and for weeks and months afterward as we searched for word of their fate, we were aware that the shock and horror of that day was not ours alone. With a gratitude we could not yet express, we felt the strong and steady embrace of our fellow Americans. The words, "Never forget," defiantly written in dust or humbly penned on makeshift memorials, were also permanently etched in our hearts. We will never forget your strength, your courage and your endless generosity.

We speak to you now in the same spirit that you spoke to us then, as Americans, united on behalf of our country. Like many of you, we feel that our nation is poised at a critical moment in history. Like our parents and grandparents before us, we know that the choices we make today will affect our children tomorrow. But we face a new challenge, a new kind of war and an enemy who is different from the enemies faced by earlier generations. This is not an adversary who can be reasoned with or appeased, this is an adversary who has repeatedly demonstrated that its means and ends are one and the same: the wanton slaughter of innocents.

After the attack, President Bush articulated the primary lesson of September 11, that simply reacting to danger after lives are lost is a weak and unacceptable national defense. He believes that taking the fight to the enemy is the best way to ensure that the enemy will not bring death to our doorstep here at home.

We agree.

Under the President?'s strong leadership in the war on terror and through the heroic efforts of our military forces, we are a safer country today. Two-thirds of al Qaeda leadership is dead, incarcerated, or on the run, its financing disrupted. The Taliban has been removed from power and training camps in Afghanistan and Iraq have been eliminated. On the domestic front, our dedicated law enforcement agencies are finally able to fight terror the same way they go after drug cartels; terrorists and terrorist cells have been thwarted in upstate New York, New Jersey, Oregon, Illinois and Florida.

The 9/11 Commission has provided this nation with a solid blueprint for going forward in the war on terror. It described the threat that killed our loved ones as a "gathering storm" which went unrecognized and unchecked for too many years and characterized the inability to predict the attack itself as a "failure of imagination." Looking forward, the Commission offered this pointed warning, "Once the danger has fully materialized, evident to all, mobilizing action is easier--but it then may be too late."

Through the prism of 9/11 and presaging the Commission's conclusion, President Bush looked at Iraq and Saddam Hussein's history, his willingness to use chemical weapons in the mass murder of his own citizens, his notorious attempts to acquire nuclear weapons, his record of giving financial aid and sanctuary to global terrorists--including members of al Qaeda--and his repeated refusal to cooperate with U.N. inspectors. He determined that this repressive regime was an intolerable danger to our country. Rather than waiting until it was too late to prevent a fully materialized threat, the President acted. We believe history will support the President's decision.

We speak to you from the heart, as citizens from all across the country and every political stripe. We are Republicans and Democrats, "liberals" and "conservatives," young and old. We are mothers and fathers, husbands and wives, sisters, brothers, sons, daughters and friends. We speak out from a profound sense of obligation to those we have lost and to the country that we love. Guided by core principles, President Bush has steadfastly told us who he is, what he believes and what he will fight for. He is a caring and decisive leader who is not afraid to make hard choices to keep this nation safe, by keeping it strong. He has sent a clear message to America's friends and foes that he will not waver in his resolve as the winds of political fortune change. He will not revert to the failed policies of the past which only served to whet the appetite of those who would destroy us. He will stand firm against our adversaries.

As Americans who have keenly felt the scourge of terrorism, we are inspired and energized to follow the President's lead, to rise to the occasion and get the job done. We are deeply grateful to President Bush, who rallied this nation on that dark September day, who has earned our respect and confidence, and whose leadership we trust to steer this country on the right path.

Three years ago, George W. Bush stood with us and vowed that he would "Never forget."

We stand with him now.
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Acquiunk
 
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Reply Sat 16 Oct, 2004 02:09 pm
Xena wrote:
Just because a few "NJ girls" and some others are offened, doesn't mean they speak for all the families. Just get that straight..


Yes Sir!!!!
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sat 16 Oct, 2004 02:24 pm
Magus wrote:
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And I remember Watergate.

The fact that corrupt politicos from the Watergate dirty-tricks contingent have managed to re-emerge at Pennsylvania Ave. is alarming, indeed...
much more so than any anomalous terrorist attack from a cadre of wackos.


You could eliminate 95% of all modern semblences of anything resembling Watergate by outlawing the democrat party:

http://www.washtimes.com/commentary/20041015-093801-5048r.htm
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Sat 16 Oct, 2004 02:26 pm
How does this

Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
if we do not approve of bush and his big iraq adventure then we've forgotten 9/11, don't appreciate our military, don't care about terrorism and love the french....could you post more of an ignant, partisan cliche?


rationally follow this?

Xena wrote:
We must never forget...It seems many of us have. This is a reminder for all of us.
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Craven de Kere
 
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Reply Sat 16 Oct, 2004 02:27 pm
gungasnake wrote:

You could eliminate 95% of all modern semblences of anything resembling Watergate by outlawing the democrat party:

http://www.washtimes.com/commentary/20041015-093801-5048r.htm


And as an added bonus you get to eliminate any semblance of Democracy!
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Acquiunk
 
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Reply Sat 16 Oct, 2004 02:30 pm
Craven de Kere wrote:
And as an added bonus you get to eliminate any semblance of Democracy!


Increasingly I'm thinking that is the goal.
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squinney
 
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Reply Sat 16 Oct, 2004 02:30 pm
Not to downplay the loss of these people who were obviously loved, and who died so horribly on that day...

But, it isn't as if you are posting a link to something overwhelmingly signed onto by families of those lost. Therefore, it gives the wrong impression that the 9/11 family / survivors are backing Bush.

A close look at the list shows approx 200 people have signed. (42 on page linked to + 158 on next bage) There were almost 3000 lost that day. Of the 200, just a quick glance shows that 16 are family of one person (Lewis) and several others show the same type of repeat.

So, of almost 3000 killed on 9/11, perhaps 120 families claim to support Bush through this websight.

They are free to do so, but please don't post here asking us to remember the dead when it is really about supporting Bush. That's disgraceful.

I remember them daily as I see constant reminders that Bush took his eye off of the one that directed the attack and went into Iraq.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Sat 16 Oct, 2004 02:30 pm
dlowan wrote:
Oh god! Not that thing again.

I do remember, and I find that drivel an absolute insult both to me and to the people who died.


I find this reaction puzzling.

In what way is the message stupid or senseless?

Why do you feel insulted by it, and more importantly why do you think it insults the people who died?
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sat 16 Oct, 2004 02:33 pm
I gotta say it...

When people talk about the second ammendment, they sometimes call it the right which guarantees all the others, or the one which makes the others possible.

The democrat party seems to me to be a sort of an antipode or opposite to that. Of all the serious/major problems which we have in America, the democrat party is the one which makes the others possible and enables them. In particular, the democrat party is the thing which makes things like 9-11 possible.

You'd think John Kerry had to be the weakest and worst candidate anybody had ever run for president of any country since Adam and Eve, and then you go back and look at Fritz Mondale...

Check this out:

http://vbuttons.com/ec/5629/index.php?em_id=1423117

The thing where Reagan talks about old Fritz swimming around in the ocean doing political ads because of voting against the Nimitz is priceless.
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