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What is the soul?

 
 
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2021 07:35 am
@edgarblythe,
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Farmerman has not contradicted me, you just want to misstate his words.

Can you back that up with an example?
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2021 07:54 am
@Leadfoot,
I don’t need anything explains thank you very much.

You take issue with what FM says and then expect the rest of us to fall in line.

Neither Edgar nor myself have a problem with FM’s posts so stop trying to manufacture disagreements and leave me out of it.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2021 08:38 am
@Leadfoot,
I rely on something that works. That sets me apart from naysayers like you and whatsisname.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2021 08:39 am
@Leadfoot,
You get hundreds of examples week after week and so far none of it takes.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2021 08:42 am
THere is no way you can know every detail about everything scientific you try to contradict. You just repeat what other naysayers do that can be thrown for mud.
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Leadfoot
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2021 02:07 pm
I have yet to hear any logical critique of my argument on the impossibility of abiogenesis without intelligent intervention (other than ad hom nonsense). So until you (farmer, edgar, izzy, et al) can come up with an argument that qualifies as scientific, **** off, You are not qualified to comment on the argument.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2021 02:11 pm
@Leadfoot,
Ok. You remain unconvinced. Let’s leave it at that and move on.
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2021 02:15 pm
@izzythepush,
Thumbs up on that.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2021 02:18 pm
@izzythepush,
****. He will try to play that broken record until Donald Trump is reinstated in the White House.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2021 02:27 pm
@Leadfoot,
wait a minute. Im being asked to present evidence of origin and evolution of life by biogenic means, and Im also being asked to present evidence why your belief system is full-0f-it. However, I really dont think thats in my purview, at lleast until you develop some real evidence besides your bumpre sticker that life is too complex to have arisen biologically.

If you accept something as fact , its up to you to defend it with good sound evidence, something I think youve forgotten to do. I think Ive defended a biological origin and evolution of life pretty well why dont you try your hand at doing your own homework. I can always critique your stuff (As youve tried unsuccessfully to critique mine). But you leave us with nothing to critique, like "HOW THE F... DO YOU EVEN STUDY ID?"

So far, specified information (Dr Demski's tricks) and irreducible complexity (Dr Behes stuff...) have been debunked by grad students one in paleo and another in evolutionary genetics ,

See how it works.

For example, ID has never really taken into account th myriad of species within one genera.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2021 02:31 pm
@Leadfoot,
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**** off, You are not qualified to comment on the argument.
and you are a mwre hobbyist whos been totally convinced by some proposed means of a god source creation without even looking at the mounds of stuff that debunk all of what youve been trying to convince the audience of.
You an layman and now anointed one have tried to recite paleo evidence but have missed its points entirely (just s any hobbyist would)
The Anointed
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2021 08:59 pm
@farmerman,
an excerpt from the link provided.

https://deghys.wordpress.com/2016/08/02/nothing-is-solid-everything-is-energy-scientists-explain-the-world-of-quantum-physics/

If you observe the composition of an atom with a microscope you would see a small, invisible tornado-like vortex, with a number of infinitely small energy vortices called quarks and photons. These are what make up the structure of the atom. As you focused in closer and closer on the structure of the atom, you would see nothing, you would observe a physical void. The atom has no physical structure, we have no physical structure, physical things really don’t have any physical structure! Atoms are made out of “INVISIBLE ENERGY”, not tangible matter.

Pioneering physicist Sir James Jeans wrote: “The stream of knowledge is heading toward a non-mechanical reality; the universe begins to look more like ‘A GREAT THOUGHT’ than like a great machine. Mind no longer appears to be an accidental intruder into the realm of matter, we ought rather hail it as the creator and governor of the realm of matter. (R. C. Henry, “The Mental Universe”; Nature 436:29, 2005)

When you have proven some of the greatest scientific minds in the field of Quantum physics to be completely wrong, come back and talk to me.

What is the origin of this universe?

When did that, from which this universe was created, begin, and when will it end?

Are atoms, from which this universe is created tangible matter, or invisible energy?

Enjoy the rest of your hopeless life old mate.

For 'HE" who has neither beginning or end, and who existed before this universe began, has manifested himself as this universal body.

GNB, Catholic Study Edition Romans 1: 18- ; God's anger is revealed from heaven against all the sin and evil of the people whose evil ways prevent the truth from being known. God punishes them, because what can be known about God is plain to them, for God himself made it plain. Ever since God created the world, his invisible qualities, both his eternal power and his divine nature, have been clearly seen; they are perceived in the things that God has made.

So those people have no excuse at all! They know God, but they do not give him the honour that belongs to him, nor do they thank him. Instead, their thoughts have become complete nonsense, and their empty minds are filled with darkness. They say they are wise, but they are fools; instead of worshipping the immortal God, they worship images made to look like mortal human beings, etc.

All thing exist through HIM, by HIM, and for HIM. 'HE' is in all that exists, and all that exists are in 'HE'.

Jeremiah 23: 23-24; “I am a God who is everywhere and not in one place only. No one can hide where I cannot see him. Do you not know that I am everywhere in heaven and on earth? He has eyes and ears everywhere throughout the universe that is 'HE'.

Every living thing within this apparent boundless cosmos, are merely information gatherers for the eternal energy, which manifests itself as this living universe and is all that exists and is, ’The Great Thought,’ the collective consciousness of all that exists. At any given point in time, you are no more than inches away from a spider, fly, ant, or any other of the many information gatherers of the eternal, who is all that exists.

farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2021 10:02 pm
@The Anointed,
the only one talking quantum anything is you. Why not find someone who actually gives a **** about it and you two can get a room
The Anointed
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2021 10:51 pm
@farmerman,
So says the so-call scientists, who erroneous believes that he is so much greater than the best scientists we have in the field of quantum physics.

Just how delusional can anyone get?
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 27 Jul, 2021 04:35 am
@The Anointed,
Where do I say anything remotely like that? YOu love to to misconstrue and misrepresent what others say as well as does Leadfoot. You sure youre not in the sunrise of youre dementia? (Dumass question, if you were you wouldnt know it anyway )

I always get a kick out of folks who try to duck their problem discussions by adding "Quantum" in front of each noun.

izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 27 Jul, 2021 04:43 am
@farmerman,
You may be on to something there.

I’ve had to deal with lots of people with dementia, and they are certain they’re right regardless of how ludicrous their claims are, and they get really nasty if you try to put them right.

When I first started working for the social, someone told me if you are dealing with an old couple and one of them thinks they may be suffering with dementia, it’s the other one who has it.
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 27 Jul, 2021 04:53 am
@izzythepush,
My aunt started to show signs of frontal dementia when she was in her erly 80's. She would take her car and house keys and place them in the butter dish in the fridge. Sh also would "reminisce" about being a piano player (She used to play piano in a supper club back in the 1950's) Her conversations were almost entirely about piano playing with Ferrante and Teischr.

Noints is kinda like that, except hi target phrase of choice is "Quantum whatever ya got" followed by biblical phrases
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 27 Jul, 2021 05:06 am
@farmerman,
When my wife was dying from cancer cancerous cells got into her spinal column and she would say all sorts of crazy stuff until she got a spinal shunt.

I remember her insisting she’d been visited by non existent family members, brothers and sisters she did not have, and when I told her they did not exist she went ballistic.

And there were times I thought I was going mad, fortunately the Kid was there to confirm that my version of reality was the correct one.
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The Anointed
 
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Reply Tue 27 Jul, 2021 05:53 am
@farmerman,
How're you going old mate, just a small question for you; "Do you believe that this universe will one day be condensed back into the singularity from which it originated?
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Tue 27 Jul, 2021 07:53 am
Best argument offered so far.

If you can't offer a scientific argument, just claim your opponent has Alzheimer's.

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