What a load of unadulterated BS, if you are going to attack the scripture twisting theologians of the Roman church and her daughter denominations , try using some evidence as I do, and not your rubbishing dribble.
Concerning the false teaching of the so-called virgin birth, it amazes me how any intelligent person can be deceived into believing the false teaching of the so-called virgin birth of the man Jesus.
The Hebrew has a specific term for ‘Virgin’ and that word is ‘Bethulah,’ which word is used in the Old Testament whenever a woman, who has never had any sexual contact with a man, is being referred too, but Isaiah does not use the word ‘Bethulah’ in the famous passage ‘Isaiah 7: 14,’ instead he uses the Hebrew ‘almah’ which refers to any woman of marriageable age, irrelevant as to her sexual status. A young unmarried woman with children is still an 'almah'.
From the Revised Standard Version, Luke 2: 36; “And there was a prophetess, Anna the daughter of Phanuel of the tribe of Asher; she was of a great age, [84] having lived with her husband 7 years from her virginity [married at the age of 70] lived with her husband until he was murdered when she was 77 and as a widow for 7 years til she was 84 when her grandson Jesus was born.
As a widow, Anna/Hanna remained in her Parthenia= state of seclusion for 7 years, from the death of her husband in 13 BC, until the birth of Jesus in 6 BC, but this does not mean that she was a virgin. A more accurate rendering of the term “Parthenos” is a person who does not have a regular sexual partner. An unmarried woman with children and no partner, would be a Parthenos in Greek and an almah in Hebrew.
‘Parthenos,’ was often used in reference to non-virgins who had never been married. Homer uses it in reference to unmarried girls who were no longer virgins, and Homer was the standard textbook for learning Greek all throughout antiquity, so any writer of Greek, including the authors of the Septuagint and those who translated Matthew’s Hebrew Gospel into the Greek, who translated Isaiah’s words, that an ‘almah’ (An unmarried woman would be with child etc) while being well aware of this words versatile and indefinite meaning; were in no way implying that Mary was a virgin when they were forced to use the Greek term ‘Parthenos’ in translating Isiah 7: 14.
As said before the Hebrew has a specific term for ‘virgin,’ “Bethulah” which word is used in every instance in the Old Testament where a woman who has never had sexual intercourse with a man is referred to, which is obviously not the case with the unmarried woman/Almah, who is mentioned in Isaiah 7:14.
The Good News Bible: Catholic Study Edition: Proverbs 30; 19; translate the Hebrew term “Almah” as woman. “And a man and a woman falling in love.”
The New Revised Standard bible, likewise translates the Hebrew “ALMAH,” as “GIRL.” “The way of a ship on the seas, and the way of a man with a girl.”
In Pergamos, as one of the final stages in the quest for enlightenment, the initiated adept would participate in sex with the Temple Virgin/Parthenos. "Parthenos" did not mean possessing an intact hymen. A parthenos was simply an unmarried woman, a woman who claimed ownership of herself.
The Greek language did not have a specific word for virgin. The Greek ‘Parthenos’ refers to any youth, male or female, of marriageable age, irrelevant as to their sexual status, and denotes ‘virgin’ only by implication.
The young 13 years old unmarried Mary, was a ‘Parthenos,’ a young unmarried woman, who told the Messenger of God that she had never had sexual contact with a man, thereby implying that she was still, at that point in time, a virgin.
When the Septuagint was translated from the Hebrew to Greek, hundreds of years before Jesus, the Hebrew translators were forced to use the Greek word ‘Parthenos’ when translating the Hebrew ‘almah’ to the Greek, and as Matthew’s gospel was originally written in Hebrew, when it was later translated to Greek, the same word ‘Parthenos’ was used to translate the Hebrew ‘almah.’
“The Greek word Parthenos (παρθένος) is ambiguous but the Hebrew term “Almah” [Unmarried Female] is absolute, and is erroneously translated from Isaiah 7: 14, to English in Matthew 1:23; as “virgin,” whereas according to Young’s Analytical Concordance to the Bible, the Hebrew term “almah,” carries the meaning, (Concealment---unmarried female.)”
Isaiah 7: 14; Jewish Translation: “Therefore the Lord, of his own, shall give you a sign; behold the ‘YOUNG WOMAN’ is with child, and she shall bear a son and she shall call his name Immanuel.”
An ‘almah,’ [an unmarried girl,] can still be a virgin, as long as she has never had sexual intercourse with a man, but there is no way on this god’s earth that a young woman who is ‘WITH CHILD’ can still be a ‘virgin.’ There are of course those who would argue that an unmarried woman could be artificially inseminated without breaking her Hymen, and the male child that formed in her womb could be delivered by Caesarean Section, and the young woman would then remain a ‘virgin,’ but the child would be the biological son of the sperm donor, and not some miraculously born ‘Son of God.’
The actual word “Virgin” in reference to the mother of Jesus was not introduced, until the Latin Bible ‘The Vulgate’ was translated to English, when the Latin word ‘VIRGO’ was translated to Virgin. For just like the early Greek language, the Latin did not have a specific term for ‘VIRGIN’, their word “Virgo” refers to any young woman of marriageable age, whether or not she had previous sexual relations with a man. Even though, by the time of Jerome, the false teaching of the miraculous virgin birth of Jesus was firmly established.
See how easy it is, but then, as you are a biblical ignoramus, you are forced to dribble your BS, in some childish attempt, to condemn all God believers
Here you are with your own agenda condemning God believers, and trying to convince them that they are wasting their time in searching for a creator and what that creator requires of them.
To you, God is no more that a dangling illusionary carrot, now if you believe, that "YOU" the invisible mind=spirit, that is developing within that physical womb, ceases to exist when it is returned to the elements from which it was created, then Good for you, but I believe that 'YOU' will survive the death of the womb in which you were formed from the information taken in through the senses of that womb, and from the words of He who exists in our future, I believe that the disembodied spirit who is assured of the resurrection can and will enter a state of rest as it awaits the day of its resurrection, while the mind that believes it will cease to exist, will suffer terrible mental torment, wishing the hell that it had searched more fully the subject of life after the first death, and now, having no physical senses to gain more information, thirsting for the information of what lies ahead as it awaits the great day of Judgement.
Isaih 57: 1-2; Good people die, and no one understands or even cares. But when they die, no calamity can hurt them. Those who live good lives find peace and rest in death. This suggests that those who lead wicked lives, those who know that they have condemned the righteous God of committing
heinous crimes against mankind, with their disgusting foul descriptions.
As Jude the step brother to Jesus said; Jude 1: 14; Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying; “Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousand of his saints, to execute judgement on all, and convince all that are ungodly among them all of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard [speeches] which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.”
This is reflected in Matthew 25: 31; Where Jesus speaks of the time that the Son of man comes with all his angel and divides the sheep from the goats that are consigned to suffer the second death, which is the condemned minds that had survived the first death. The same is recorded in Revelation 21: 5-8.
Why condemn others for doing exactly what you yourself are doing, spruiking your own agender, on how one should live. Why do you try to convince those poor souls who are suffering deep depression and feelings of 'The hopelessness of life', that death is all they have to look forward to?
Perhaps you took Farmerman's comments the wrong way and misread his sentiment?
YOURE REALLY THAT OBTUSE?
All have sinned and all must die once then go off into judgement, all must pay the blood price for the sins of their flesh. If your body is dead, what other than your mind=spirit goes off into judgement?
Just as mankind developed within the bodies of our animal ancestors, so too, "THE SON OF MAN" develops in the body of EVE who has become the great sinful and pregnant androgynous body of Mankind.
But the sinful life of the woman is Justified by the child she hears to her Lord
And "THE SON OF MAN", is the only one who can pay the death sentence for the sins of the flesh in which he developed, but the umbilical cord is not severed from the mother body until she dies and is reunited with her Lord Adam at the close of the great seventh day Sabbath, of which Paul says is the future reality of the weekly Sabbath.
For this reason, when Christ (He who was taken up at the age of 365 and anointed as the successor to the throne of the Most High in the creation) was about to come into the world, he said to God: “You do not want sacrifices and offerings, but you have prepared a body for me. You are not pleased with animals burnt whole on the altar or with sacrifices to take away sins.
That body was the man Jesus, of who it is written in Hebrews 5: 7; In his life on earth Jesus made his prayers and requests with loud cries and tears to God, who could save him from death. Because he was humble and devoted, God heard him. But even though he was “A” Son of God, he learnt through his sufferings to be obedient. When he was made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all those who obey him, and God declared him to be high priest, in the priestly order of Melchizedek. (All Jews are sons of God, see Psalms 82: 5; How stupid! You are completely corrupt, and justice has disappeared from the world. ‘You are gods,’ I said; ‘all of you are children of the Most High.’)
In the same way, Jesus did not take upon himself the honour of being a high priest. Instead, God said to him: “You are my Son; ‘TODAY’ I have become your Father.” He also said in another place, “You will be a priest for ever, in the priestly order of Melchizedek.”
Jesus, whose Parents were Mary and her half brother Joseph, who were both sired by Alexander Helios=Heli, by different mothers, was born ‘SON OF GOD’ not by blood, nor by the will of the flesh, but by the spirit of the Lord with which he was filled, the spirit that descended upon him in the form of a dove on the day he was baptised and the heavenly voice was heard to say; “You are my Son, ‘THIS DAY’ I have begotten thee,” or as Hebrews has it, “You are my Son, ‘TODAY’ I have become your father.
As Revealed in Deuteronomy 18: 18-19; Where God said to Moses; “I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put ‘MY WORDS’ in his mouth. He will tell them everything I command him. I myself will punish anyone who does not listen to ‘MY WORDS’ that He shall speak in ‘MY NAME’.
Peter confirms that Jesus was that man, when, concerning the man Jesus, he says in. Acts 3: 22; For Moses said; "The Lord your God will send you a prophet, just as he sent me, and he will be one of your own people, etc."
Did the people of his day believe that he was the Lord, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The God of our ancestors? No, they did not, for on the day of his triumphant entry into Jerusalem, the people escorting him cried out, "BLESSED IS HE WHO COMES IN THE NAME OF THE LORD" Verifying that they believed Jesus to be the one that God had promised Moses that he would choose from among the Israelites, and send to the people to speak in his name.
And it was not the man Jesus who gave his life for the continued existence of the body in which our Lord God and savior, the MOST HIGH in the creation, had developed in. It was He who had revealed himself to us through the words and miracles as seen through his obedient earthly host body, the MAN Jesus, who abandoned his chosen successor on the Cross as he, ‘Jesus,’ gave up the spirit crying, “My God, my God, why have you abandoned me.” It was He who then ceased to be an individual entity by releasing all the spirits of the righteous, who had been gathered to him, whose graves were then opened, and three days later, those righteous spirits came out of their graves and entered the city and showed themselves as the risen body of Christ, whose spiritual head was now Jesus.
Acts 17: 31; "For he (The Lord) has fixed a day in which he will judge the whole world with justice by means of a MAN he has CHOSEN. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising that MAN from death!”
Did you notice that I do not choose scripture out of all context to that in which they were intended and toss them around willy nilly as do the biblical ignoramus’s who haunt this forum
the last thing I want it to be is a continuation of THIS life. I want something new...with THIS life being something of history.
Frank dapissa wrote ..... .the last thing I want it to be is a continuation of THIS life. I want something new...
The Anointed Responds ...... Then your wish will be granted. Oh how boring your loveless, joyless and hopeless life must be, for you to want it to end and get a new one.
Well then according to the scriptures after the first death, which is that of the body in which you the mind have developed, and you stand before the judgement seat of 'The Son of Man' and because of your foul accusations against your redeemer, your mind is then separated from the soul, which is the divine animating principle that pervades the entire universe activating all that is.
Then, that empty lifeless portion of soul from which you the invisible spirit=mind is separated, will be given a new body in which to develop a new mind, of course, what sort of body you will be given in the resurrected world, will be up to the Lord, who you have offended.
When Enoch was anointed as the heir and successor to the throne of the MOST HIGH in the creation, he was told to write down the name of every soul that would ever live, and the position for each of them into the everlasting.
It was He, the stone that the builders of the Jewish and Roman churches have rejected and accused as a heretic, who, after being in the valley of man, the spiritual dimension that co-exists within this three dimensional world for three thousand years or three days, and after he had been brought to perfection through suffering, he was reborn as the man Jesus and taken to heaven, where he was anointed as the successor to the throne of the Most High in the creation.
John 1:10 KJV
He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
The first usage of the word "world" is the created world and the second usage of the word "world" is the inhabited world.
The scripture did not say the created world it did not say the inhabited world you have to infer it.
Perhaps, there will be a day when the world is judged by itself?
There is the human view and then there is the view of the divine.
The human view is God smited the enemy, and the divine view is, they fell upon their own swords.
Did god smite or judge them of did they fall prey to their own judgement?
There is a saying, we are our own worst enemy...
Karma happens...
It does not say "whole world".
Just like when the Bible uses the word "all" is that all without exception or all with distinction.
One must know the context, and use discernment.
The whole world will not be judged on that day because the church was (past tense) judged with Jesus.
This is why the church is saved from wrath [judgment] and abides under grace and mercy.
Grace = divine favor
Mercy = withheld judgment
Due to divine favor, judgment is withheld.
The church is the body of Christ (not the bride)
The church was crucified with Christ
Judged temped in all points and without sin
Raised and glorified with Christ.
The church was in Christ.
As Christ is in the church also.
The church is the embodiment of the living Christ on earth today (In his stead)
Therein is the grace with which it stands.
Saved from all wrath [judgment]...
So no, not all the world will be judged on that day if that "day" is actually not some figurative sliding scale of million of years... (joke) 😁
The church is spared from judgment, Christians receive rewards and crowns, not judgments and punishments. These events happen at different times.
