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What is the soul?

 
 
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Tue 25 May, 2021 06:54 am
@TheCobbler,
According to the book of Genesis, Satan told Eve, "her eyes would be opened" if she ate the apple.

Genesis 3:5 KJV
For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

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Comment:
The book of Ephesians tells us the spirit will open the eyes of our understanding...

Ephesians 1:18 KJV
The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,

Comment:
Is that also a lie?

To reason truth with your eyes closed and your understanding darkened is travesty.

I absolutely love this.

I’ve previously written that I believed it was God's desire all along for A&E to 'eat of that fruit'. But I never saw this particular scriptural evidence before! Bravo!

And good reasoning too!

Except that you didn’t specify the First lie. What did you mean?
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Tue 25 May, 2021 01:10 pm
@Leadfoot,
The person I was responding to said the first scripture from Genesis was a lie from Satan.
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Tue 25 May, 2021 01:36 pm
@TheCobbler,
Yes, I see now. Another lie but from a different source.

Although from my/your (?) POV, both were true.
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Fri 28 May, 2021 08:52 am
@Leadfoot,
My point is, if the Bible allows Satan to impersonate God from the very first scriptures, while putting the blame on humanity(woman), how many other lies are there in the book? Who and what can you trust from that point on?

Fool me once...
Jasper10
 
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Reply Sat 29 May, 2021 01:12 am
@chai2,
SELF can pilot the body if it is able to gain sufficient awareness to take control of the consciousness states otherwise it remains a prisoner of them.
Jasper10
 
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Reply Sat 29 May, 2021 01:16 am
@Jasper10,
If SELF can’t take control it remains totally helpless “toggling” between the consciousness states.TOTALLY UNAWARE that this is the case.
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Leadfoot
 
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Reply Sat 29 May, 2021 05:28 am
@TheCobbler,
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My point is, if the Bible allows Satan to impersonate God from the very first scriptures...
I see what you mean, I think.

When I said 'God wanted A & E to have the knowledge of good and evil', I was not implying that Satan was impersonating God. It was more a case of God head-faking Satan into helping God accomplish His goal.
The Anointed
 
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Reply Mon 12 Jul, 2021 02:28 am
@Leadfoot,
The animal has no concept of Good and bad, it only obeys the animal instincts within.

Until the animal 'Mankind" began to judge for himself that which was good and bad, he would have forever remained an animal servant to his indwelling animal ancestral spirit, and it was in that, that he sinned by judging the inner parental commands as being bad.

And now he has become just like one of us, said the Lord, which was the intent from the very beginning.
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Mon 12 Jul, 2021 08:17 am
@The Anointed,
Humans are animals... and even "anointed ones" can become corrupt over time.

This spirituality is not meant to be mind control, as instinct is also not devoid of empathy.

Being convinced of ones superiority through spirituality can be the cause of much arrogance and blindness.

Religion is often a curse.
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 12 Jul, 2021 08:35 am
@The Anointed,
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The animal has no concept of Good and bad, it only obeys the animal instincts within
Of that you are certain , HOW?
Some writer from "Civic Biology" who is hammering out the" pinnacle of creation BS"
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 12 Jul, 2021 09:50 am
I believe the other animals are a lot closer to humans mentally than most are willing to admit.
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Jasper10
 
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Reply Mon 12 Jul, 2021 11:37 am
@farmerman,
Farmerman, Good and Bad are different is an ASSUMPTION just as Good and Bad are the same is an ASSUMPTION according to machine like logic.

Take your pick on your ASSUMPTIONS.
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Mon 12 Jul, 2021 04:57 pm
@The Anointed,
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And now he has become just like one of us, said the Lord, which was the intent from the very beginning.

On that, I think you are the first person ever who agreed with me.
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Leadfoot
 
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Reply Mon 12 Jul, 2021 05:08 pm
@TheCobbler,
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instinct is also not devoid of empathy.

You may be using 'Instinct' in too broad a way; there is instinct designed to insure survival of the creature, but empathy is more the nature given to the particular creature by the designer. But of course you don't think there is one.
The Anointed
 
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Reply Mon 12 Jul, 2021 07:01 pm
@Leadfoot,
WHAT IS THE SOUL?

I am a triad being consisting of Body, Soul, and Spirit. The body is created from the universal elements and must return to the elements from which it is created. The Soul is the divine animating principle that pervades the entire universe activating all within, and like the elements, the soul must also return to the ‘GREAT THOUGHT’ which is made manifest as this visible universe.

While the Spirit is the invisible mind which is the ‘I Am,’ that is imprinted upon the eternal universal Soul, which Soul must return to the ‘GREAT ETERNAL THOUGHT,’ with or without the ‘I Am,’ that is either accepted into the GREAT THOUGHT, or rejected, and if rejected, it is separated from the eternal Soul and ceases to exist.

The scriptures equate the ‘MIND’ with the ‘SPIRIT’, in one place it is said, “You must love God with all your heart, with all your mind, and with all your soul:” In another place it is said, “You must love God with all your body, with all your spirit and with all your soul.”

“YOU,” as a human being, are Body, Soul and Spirit, but “YOU” the invisible mind, are spirit. Flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of heaven.

The emptied soul is a dead soul which is cast back into the refining fires of physical life, where God will give it a new heart=body in which to develop a new spirit= mind.

When the body in which you [the mind] are being formed, dies, [This is the first death] and your body of “skin, flesh, muscle, blood, bone, brain matter etc, etc,” has returned to the universal elements from which it was created, all that remains, is a shadow or rather, a facsimile of YOU, the mind or spirit, that has been imprinted into the universal life force or soul, which returns to ‘THE GREAT THOUGHT,’ [The collective consciousness of all that exists] from which it will be resurrected to either everlasting life, or everlasting oblivion.
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Mon 12 Jul, 2021 09:26 pm
@The Anointed,
Or, you are a body... and the soul that you refer to is merely the body's fuel that is placed in the body's engine and this fuel is what we refer to as the soul or life. But it is no more living than an automobile is.

If one had no understanding of an automobile it could easily be construed that it is a miraculously living thing. Though it is given autonomy through an engine and fuel, is it alive?. The microchips in the car's GPS technology must certainly be a sign of its mind and connection to the "GREAT THOUGHT". It even has a language! It must have a soul? Yes?

Not unlike the fuel we derive from the food we eat as sustenance.

We are machines designed by the spheres of the sun and earth which are also, machines. All devised through the evolution of geometry.

No more complex than a fire fueled by wood. A brain fueled by electrical impulses, oxygen and carbon.

As for the spirit, the existence of the spirit is purely conjectural as also for an afterlife with the "GREAT THOUGHT ".

There is no evidence "the great thought" does not exist but is it any more substantial than assuming an automobile is a living being?

Get honest, draw a clear and defining line between what you do actually know and what you think you know.

Therein lies honest truth...

The rest is merely speculation and perhaps, "GREAT ERROR".

Speculation is certainly not something to put your "faith" in, therein lies the folly of the fool.
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Mon 12 Jul, 2021 09:30 pm
@Leadfoot,
Our hunger is imposed by the bacteria in our gut and our survival is dictated by our DNA.

Is that not the definition of instinct?
The Anointed
 
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Reply Mon 12 Jul, 2021 09:41 pm
@TheCobbler,
The sun, moon and earth were all created from the Eternal Energy that has neither beginning or end, in fact this whole boundless cosmos was created through, by, and for, the Eternal energy which is all that exists.

An excerpt from the link provided below.

Pioneering physicist Sir James Jeans wrote: “The stream of knowledge is heading toward a non-mechanical reality; the universe begins to look more like ‘A GREAT THOUGHT’ than like a great machine. Mind no longer appears to be an accidental intruder into the realm of matter, we ought rather hail it as the creator and governor of the realm of matter. (R. C. Henry, “The Mental Universe”; Nature 436:29, 2005)

https://deghys.wordpress.com/2016/08/02/nothing-is-solid-everything-is-energy-scientists-explain-the-world-of-quantum-physics/
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Mon 12 Jul, 2021 10:35 pm
@The Anointed,
I like to think the concept of love is real and not just the summation of a lot of selfish emotions.

In this ideal of love there is something eternal and immutable.

I will not be the only one fooled by love enough to buy stock in it and gamble my life's savings on it.

But wishing it so does not make it so.

And perhaps this giant universe itself is devoid of thought, devoid of love and only has behind its masquerade and vast imagery (beauty and lust) the mechanical soulless gears and cogs of light and energy. ...a wave and a particle.

Machines creating machines searching for a ghost...
Jasper10
 
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Reply Mon 12 Jul, 2021 10:36 pm
@Jasper10,
If one asks the biological machine,,,, is there a difference between good and bad?… it can ONLY provide ASSUMPTIONS….i.e. 4 off logic output possibilities.

1.Good is Good
2.Good is Bad
3.Bad is Good
4.Bad is Bad

It doesn’t know!!!
 

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