Affordable Care Act

0bamacare is designed to fail & force people into a all knowing centralized payer system.

0-care has never been about healthcare, it's always been about centralized control.

If 0-care was so freaking good, why did 0bama, Pelosi, and the rest of obama's administration have to lie about it?

Why would anyone trust the 0bama administration to correctly diagnose this nations healthcare problems when they can't even correctly identify the muslim / islamic religious death cult that is killing people left & right?

The first version would have been just fine, but congress voted it down. After a bipartisan committee created it...

What made the 1st version 'just fine'?

What was the lie? How about those 20 million more people with health insurance, and the rate increases dropped for most people from double digits to single digits.
https://www.healthinsurance.org/blog/2016/07/29/health-premiums-after-obamacare-theyre-lower/

It was the "single payer option". It would have simplified the whole thing. It was created by a bipartisan congressional committee with all the resources available to them. Insurance specialists, economists, doctors, lawyers, etc.

Single payer is centralized payer, it's the worst possible outcome.

Is it, Frug? We've never had that system herein the US. How do you know? Look at Canada and the European countries. All have social medicine. What's the problem besides the label "social"?

It's not only Canada and European countries; many other countries have socialized medicine including Japan, Asia, China, Spain, Australia, Russia, Cuba, and South America.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/06/heres-a-map-of-the-countries-that-provide-universal-health-care-americas-still-not-on-it/259153/

Since reading about this subject I realize there is a distinction between publicly funded, partially publicly funded and universal coverage. There is a mish-mash of systems around the world with the majority of countries at least partially funding healthcare, including the USA. We have a public system, based on need, called Medicare and Medicaid operating alongside the various private programs. Only since the ACA have we made an attempt at universal coverage, and we still fall short.

All true; but these things will take many years for it to develop into what is a benefit for all Americans.
Many people suffer from mis-information, but the health of the citizens of any country benefits from good health care.
It's no different than good public education to remain competitive in the economic world.

Those that suffer from misinformation can't get past the label of "socialism".
Point out to them that we are in fact a socialist nation and they will look at you as if you had two heads. They're not educated enough to realize that every service provided by the government is an example of socialism. Ford and Chevy aren't going to get together and build roads for us. Police and fire departments are government funded. Think how it would be if they were private services: "We're not going to extinguish your house because you're not a member!"
How many people in this country would just not send their kids to school if it wasn't mandatory and if there was a fee involved?
A pure capitalist state is as impossible as a pure communist state. Other countries have found a workable balance between those two extremes, but the US for some reason strives to maintain some kind of Old West philosophy of "I don't need nuthin' from the government".

Speaking from personal experience, my siblings and I have come from very poor financial background. Our mother raised four children, and we lived on welfare. Our home after WWII was living in a Buddhist Temple schoolroom divided by blankets for families such as ours.
Fast forward to now: My older brother became an Attorney, my younger brother became a Doctor, and my sister became a RN. We all went to public schools in Sacramento.
I believe in ACA for all citizens of this country. 20 million more people were able to purchase health insurance under ACA. That's a good thing in my books.

ACA needs to be ripped out by it roots and killed with fire.

The private sector free market needs to do it's thing and allow national competition.

Do you have a memory, Frug? Where were you in 2007? Don't you remember what the private sector did to health insurance? Do you want that to repeat?

I had my own health insurance in '07, and I had no issues with it until 0bama took office.

For the first time in my adult life I do not have health insurance because of 0bamacare. 0bamacare is worse than slavery, and it must be destroyed. I hope Trump can gut the ACA ASAP, and enable the millions of us that got the shaft via ACA can get affordable coverage again.

You're talking thru your arse. Premiums have gone down after ACA.
https://www.healthinsurance.org/blog/2016/07/29/health-premiums-after-obamacare-theyre-lower/
You must live in another universe, or being suckered.

In 2007 ( and for some years prior) insurance premiums were rising out of control. Somehow yours were fine, you were the only one. The rest of the nation was in the midst of what was called the "Health Care Crisis". Something had to change. It's a shame congress didn't pass the original version of ACA. Instead they voted it down and we got plan "B", the current mess that's known as Obamacare. It's really a misnomer, as Barrack Obama had very little to do with writing it's provisions.

Also, the following article.
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/18/tracking-how-the-the-uninsured-fared-and-changed-since-obamacare-took-effect.html

Blue Cross Blue Shield Of Mich. Reports $265M Net Surplus And CEO Bonus
http://insurancenewsnet.com/oarticle/Blue-Cross-Blue-Shield-Of-Mich-Reports-265M-Net-Surplus-And-CEO-Bonus-a-468613

"The villains are insurance companies. They hated Obamacare from the start and I believe they raised prices before the election in order to sway the electorate so they can get what they've wanted all along--repeal of Obamacare--because ignorant people blame these cost increases on Obamacare. Obamacare only helps some people pay for the premiums and it somewhat regulates the insurance companies--something they hate. They got a win-win situation for themselves and a lose-lose situation for us. They raise the cost of premiums outrageously, allow the electorate to blame Obamacare, get Obamacare repealed so they can do whatever they want, PLUS they got a LOT of money from the price increases."

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Insurance should be a government service not a for profit business. Get the wolves and leaches out of our healthcare!