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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2016 03:11 pm
@Frugal1,
Quote:
On paper, the trackers are well-suited to judging movement. But Gallup and Rasmussen essentially alone in clearly showing evidence of a close race. And it's worth recalling that there is a broader set of pseudo-tracking polls that don't show similarly clear evidence of movement, like Reuters/Ipsos, PPP/DailyKos/SEIU, and YouGov/Economist. The RAND American Life Panel also shows Obama holding his post-convention bounce, and while it isn't a traditional poll, it has (what I consider to be) a promising methodology that should be taken very seriously, especially for judging movement in the race. Even if you ignored the non-Gallup/Rasmussen trackers, there is a defensible compromise position: Obama still has a four-point lead, but Obama’s bounce was probably larger than suggested by an initial wave of swing state polling adulterated by automated firms.


FYI, polls are only a sampling of the total, and they can be in error. However, the important thing to remember is the polls long term credibility, because there's nothing else available.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2016 03:13 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Record on Gallup polls.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/9442/Election-Polls-Accuracy-Record-Presidential-Elections.aspx

Here's a report on the latest polls and their accuracy.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/


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Frugal1
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2016 08:09 am
0bamacare was designed to fail, that's why 0bama & the democrats lied about it.

TheCobbler
 
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Reply Sun 11 Dec, 2016 01:22 pm
@Frugal1,
It is not failing despite all of the republicans trying to kick it down... It has saved countless lives so far and continues to do so.

Is it perfect? NO! Why? Had it been perfect not even one republican would have voted for it.
Frugal1
 
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Reply Sun 11 Dec, 2016 03:02 pm
@TheCobbler,
It's already failed, as intended.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 11 Dec, 2016 03:29 pm
@Frugal1,
It failed in your world, because 20 million more people now have health insurance.

ACA may have saved 87,000 lives. Probably your family member or friend.
http://acasignups.net/15/12/01/aca-may-have-saved-87000-lives-and-im-not-even-talking-about-through-medicaid-expansion
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Frugal1
 
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Reply Sun 11 Dec, 2016 03:50 pm
It's sad that 0bama set out to harm so many American families, he's kind of a dick.
TomTomBinks
 
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Reply Sun 11 Dec, 2016 06:07 pm
@Frugal1,
The election is over, you can stop campaigning now...
Frugal1
 
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Reply Sun 11 Dec, 2016 06:11 pm
@TomTomBinks,
You accept Trump as your next president?
TomTomBinks
 
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Reply Sun 11 Dec, 2016 06:19 pm
@Frugal1,
He was elected fair and square, right? Why wouldn't I? (Unless you know something you're not sharing with the rest of us.)
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TomTomBinks
 
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Reply Sun 11 Dec, 2016 06:23 pm
@Frugal1,
Quote:
0bamacare was designed to fail, that's why 0bama & the democrats lied about it.

You seem to be very susceptible to propaganda. You would make a good follower.
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TomTomBinks
 
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Reply Sun 11 Dec, 2016 06:26 pm
@TheCobbler,
If you remember the ACA's first incarnation was the single payer system (essentially it was social medicine) was voted down by congress. So the best version of health care reform was rejected. Congress was mandated to continue trying, so they came up with this half-assed train wreck that congress approved. In a way, Frugal is right, it was meant to fail, but not by it's designers, by congress.
Frugal1
 
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Reply Sun 11 Dec, 2016 07:52 pm
@TomTomBinks,
It was meant to fail by design.
TomTomBinks
 
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Reply Sun 11 Dec, 2016 09:57 pm
@Frugal1,
You realize the ACA was designed by a bi partisan committee. So a group of congressmen (both parties) worked for months to overhaul our healthcare system, and they designed it to fail? What Facebook post told you this? You have a computer; look it up. It was NOT designed to fail, that's ridiculous. It was designed to fix the problems with our healthcare system. Do you remember what it was like in 2007? Something needed to be done. The American people spoke loud and clear with their VOTES that they wanted the HC system fixed. The newly elected president appointed a committee to work on it. They were given certain stipulations; like it was supposed to insure those then uninsured, it was supposed to disallow insurance companies from denying coverage for pre-existing conditions, etc. After many months of work the committee presented a workable plan and it was voted down by congress. Of course they presented the best plan they could come up with, and so after it was voted down they had to come up with one that could pass congress; a second best plan, which sucks. Now how exactly was it "designed to fail"?
Frugal1
 
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Reply Mon 12 Dec, 2016 06:47 am
@TomTomBinks,
I guess you are unaware of most of the circumstances surrounding the ACA, or how it was shoved down the throats of the American people... championed by lying Nancy Pelosi.

Frugal1
 
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Reply Mon 12 Dec, 2016 09:56 am
ObamaCare's risk corridor corruption never ends
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 12 Dec, 2016 11:13 am
@Frugal1,
Shoved down the throats of the American people? Is that why over 20 million people signed up?
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TomTomBinks
 
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Reply Mon 12 Dec, 2016 11:22 am
@Frugal1,
There was no referendum. It was passed by congress. Try to set aside preconceptions and personal feelings and just look at the facts.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 12 Dec, 2016 11:28 am
@TomTomBinks,
http://www.americasfairhealthcare.org/blog/entry/fact-check-how-the-health-care-law-was-made/
Much of the provisions in the ACA were from the GOP.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/12/08/partisans-on-affordable-care-act-provisions/
TomTomBinks
 
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Reply Mon 12 Dec, 2016 11:32 am
@cicerone imposter,
Thank you once again for real information. Are you paying attention Frugal? Read this (if your handlers let you, that is.)
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