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Ding-dong! The Witch of Cuba is dead! Castro's dead at 90.

 
 
Builder
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2016 04:19 pm
@Baldimo,
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Not sure where you live, but you should trying living in the US. Our elections actually work.


Thanks for the chuckles.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2016 04:21 pm
@Builder,
Well they work unless you are a Hillary supporter, then you can cry about a stolen election. Kind of like Blickers is on another thread...
Builder
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2016 04:23 pm
@Baldimo,
I don't think either candidate was worth a vote. Sanders showed promise, but he'd have been up against opposition in the house and senate, right from the start.
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Builder
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2016 05:02 pm
@Baldimo,
Just taking a look at Haiti in comparison to Cuba.

What a huge disparity between these close neighbours.

In fact, Cuba is hugely advanced in many ways, compared to Haiti.

source

I guess being a Republic hasn't worked out too well for capitalism in Haiti.

Infant mortality is always a sign of how well a govt cares for the people.

In Cuba, it's 4 per 1000 births. Haiti is 52.2 per 1000.

Percent of National Parliament Seats Held by Women ; 48.8% in Cuba, and just 4.21% in Haiti.

Plenty more indicators that Cuba is streets ahead of their nearest non-communist neighbours.
Blickers
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2016 07:46 pm
@Baldimo,
Question: How much are you and the righties going to scream, holler and shriek that asking for a recount, a procedure which outlined in the election laws, is a scandal? The fact that you try so hard to make it seem like it's just, like, totally NOT DONE to use one's rights to get a recount according to the law makes it all the more apparent that you fear what might come out from it. Perhaps not the results of the election being overturned, but still things that you would hugely prefer not to come out.

Go Jill.
Frugal1
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2016 08:01 pm
Go away Jill.
Builder
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2016 08:02 pm
@Frugal1,
Is she Fidel's sister?
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Frugal1
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2016 07:15 am
What role, if any did Castro play torturing US prisoners during the Vietnam war?
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2016 02:13 pm
@Blickers,
I believe the only hollering, shrieking and shouting on this issue is coming from Hillary supporters such as yourself. For the rest of us the recount is something of a slightly embarassing comedy. Moreover it is collapsing. as we speak of its own fatuous lack of either meaning or evidence. However Stein & Co will get to keep the remaining money. No problem though George Soiros has lots more.
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Frugal1
 
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Reply Mon 12 Dec, 2016 08:29 am
Reporters Without Borders says Cuba is the most repressive country in the western hemisphere. Any reporter who praises Castro is a disgrace.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 12 Dec, 2016 12:32 pm
@Builder,
Are we talking about the same Haiti that Bill Clinton sent troops to back in the 90's? Or the same Haiti that the Clinton Foundation has claimed to spent millions helping? With all of that Clinton help over the last 20+ years, I'm surprised they aren't doing better in the world...
Builder
 
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Reply Mon 12 Dec, 2016 03:48 pm
@Baldimo,
I'm pretty sure that Haiti is what the capitalists call a "sacrifice zone".

I see from the stats that HIV is taking a hefty toll, compared to Cuba.

That hospital the CF raised millions for in Haiti really made the difference, right?
Frugal1
 
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Reply Mon 12 Dec, 2016 03:50 pm
@Builder,
I guess Haiti does make the 3rd world **** hole we call Cuba look like paradise to some.

Kind of like Carter making 0bama look good, oh wait - that didn't happen.
Builder
 
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Reply Mon 12 Dec, 2016 03:53 pm
@Frugal1,
I'm struggling to think of any nation the US has "liberated" lately actually becoming a better place.
Frugal1
 
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Reply Mon 12 Dec, 2016 04:51 pm
@Builder,
They are better off if we beat the living **** out of them first.
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Mon 12 Dec, 2016 05:11 pm
@Builder,
Builder wrote:

I'm pretty sure that Haiti is what the capitalists call a "sacrifice zone".

I see from the stats that HIV is taking a hefty toll, compared to Cuba.

That hospital the CF raised millions for in Haiti really made the difference, right?


You appear to be suggesting that the only alternative to Cuban tyranny and authoritarian socialism (and the poverty it creates) is Haiti. Look again. The world is filled with far better alternatives.
McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 12 Dec, 2016 08:43 pm
@Builder,
Builder wrote:

I'm struggling to think of any nation the US has "liberated" lately actually becoming a better place.


How lately?
Builder
 
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Reply Tue 13 Dec, 2016 12:46 am
@georgeob1,
Quote:
You appear to be suggesting that the only alternative to Cuban tyranny and authoritarian socialism (and the poverty it creates) is Haiti. Look again. The world is filled with far better alternatives.


Cuba was a communist nation. I've not seen evidence to suggest it was an authoritarian state, ruled by a tyrant. Protesters held regular rallies, and people could leave if they so desired.

As for "far better alternatives" most involve heavily socialist policies, (Germany) rather than neoliberal "free-market" capitalism.
Builder
 
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Reply Tue 13 Dec, 2016 12:47 am
@McGentrix,
Quote:
How lately?


Well, I don't hear any cheering for operation Ajax. In fact, former sec of state Albright even managed a form of apology for that one.
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Tue 13 Dec, 2016 05:49 am
@Builder,
Builder wrote:

Cuba was a communist nation. I've not seen evidence to suggest it was an authoritarian state, ruled by a tyrant. Protesters held regular rallies, and people could leave if they so desired.

As for "far better alternatives" most involve heavily socialist policies, (Germany) rather than neoliberal "free-market" capitalism.


You appear to be either seriously delusional, or very badly informed.

The Castro brothers have ruled Cuba for over fifty years without ever having an election or tolerating the existence of any organized political opposition. The judicial system is populated exclusively with party members appointed by the tyrants who run every aspect of that unfortunate nation's life, and operated as a tool of oppression on behalf of the state. Cuba is, however socialistic: the state controls and manages economic life for all. As a result Cuba is poorer now than before the revolution. It was subsidized by the Soviet Union for about 35 years, and, a decade after it collapsed, Chavez' "Bolivarian" Venezuela stepped in to to renew the subsidies. Authoritarian Socialism very quickly turned Venezuela into an Economic and political basket case, so it can no longer sustain the feeble economy of Cuba. Life for the Cuban people continues to get worse, and they have no freedom.

Germany is a hightly capitalist state - far more so than is France or Britain. Its independent businesses operate a highly efficient export economy that has made Germany the richest large state in Europe. They do have well-developed social welfare programs , introduced in the late 19th century be Chancellor Bismark. However the government does not control either the means of production or the flow of capital in the country.
 

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