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Ding-dong! The Witch of Cuba is dead! Castro's dead at 90.

 
 
Frugal1
 
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Reply Wed 7 Dec, 2016 01:36 pm
@georgeob1,
Yeah, it doesn't convey the brutality inflicted on the people by Fidel.

He was an evil, brutal, murderous dictator.
Builder
 
  0  
Reply Wed 7 Dec, 2016 08:02 pm
@Frugal1,
Quote:
He was an evil, brutal, murderous dictator.


According to whom? The people who tried to assassinate him multiple times?
Frugal1
 
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Reply Wed 7 Dec, 2016 09:20 pm
@Builder,
The people that survived by escaping tell the story, ask them.
Builder
 
  0  
Reply Wed 7 Dec, 2016 09:28 pm
@Frugal1,
They were permitted to leave.

http://www.findingdulcinea.com/news/on-this-day/April/On-This-Day--Thousands-Authorized-to-Leave-Cuba-in-Mariel-Boatlift.html
roger
 
  1  
Reply Wed 7 Dec, 2016 10:36 pm
@Builder,
Cheaper than keeping them in prison. You did read your own link, I presume.
Builder
 
  1  
Reply Thu 8 Dec, 2016 01:40 am
@roger,
Of course, Roger.

Unlike in Iran, post CIA coup, where dissidents were tortured and used for experiments, much like in Guantanamo bay.
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roger
 
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Reply Thu 8 Dec, 2016 01:44 am
Sometimes it's a good idea to change the subject.
Builder
 
  0  
Reply Thu 8 Dec, 2016 01:58 am
@roger,
Merely drawing parallels from the same time period.

Not changing the subject at all, Roger.

It's estimated that over three hundred thousand Iranian dissidents were disappeared under the Shah's despotic rule, aided by the US SAVAK torture squads.

http://www.angelfire.com/home/iran/savak.html
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Thu 8 Dec, 2016 09:47 am
@Builder,
The people leaving on homemade trash rafts might have some stories to share? Do people really flee good counties on floating trash and rickety boats? How many were imprisoned over the decades for speaking out against Castro? So what everyone could read, they were only allowed to read what Castro wanted them to read. You guys praise a guy who kept his people captive and afraid only because they were healthy and could read? To you that is success of a nation and a leader?
Frugal1
 
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Reply Thu 8 Dec, 2016 01:59 pm
@roger,
Quote:
Sometimes it's a good idea to change the subject.


It's how you deflect attention away from your personal lack of knowledge & understanding of Castro's Cuba.
It didn't work, we know that you are clueless.
roger
 
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Reply Thu 8 Dec, 2016 02:06 pm
@Frugal1,
Oh, why thank you Frugal.
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Builder
 
  0  
Reply Thu 8 Dec, 2016 06:50 pm
Hmmm, 75 dissidents jailed in Cuba, and protesters permitted to march whenever they like, compared to hundreds of thousands murdered, tortured, disappeared in Iran, under the US puppet Shah and SAVAK rule.

No comparison whatsoever.
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Builder
 
  0  
Reply Thu 8 Dec, 2016 06:53 pm
@Baldimo,
Quote:
The people leaving on homemade trash rafts might have some stories to share?


How about the wealthiest-ever diaspora of Jewish people to the US of A coming from Iran, post-revolution? I bet they didn't need rafts.
ossobucotemp
 
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Reply Thu 8 Dec, 2016 07:19 pm
@ehBeth,
thanks for that link.. and the take of your old roommate
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Frugal1
 
  0  
Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2016 09:38 am
Cuba’s Surge in Tourism Keeps Food Off Residents’ Plates
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Baldimo
 
  0  
Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2016 12:03 pm
@Builder,
Are you going to bring up every bad country in the World so that you can feel good about praising Castro?
Builder
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2016 03:11 pm
@Baldimo,
I don't recall praising Fidel Castro at all. I just don't buy this whole scenario where he was the evil dictator. The guy he replaced was all that, and possibly more.

Fifty years of trade sanctions and literally dozens of attempted assassinations from his nearest neighbour aside, Cuba would be a first-world nation.

I'm guessing you believe all the hype about Libya's leader as well, and that his street murder was somehow justified on "humanitarian" grounds?
Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2016 03:49 pm
@Builder,
Quote:
Fifty years of trade sanctions and literally dozens of attempted assassinations from his nearest neighbour aside, Cuba would be a first-world nation.

With all that help from the communists, why wasn't Cuba a first world nation? Oh yeah communism/socialism doesn't create first world nations, or would you consider Venezuela the model of a first world nation?

Can you name one dictatorship that would be considered a first world nation?
Builder
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2016 03:52 pm
@Baldimo,
So you assume that if you don't have elections, you have a dictatorship?

How's that democracy thang working out for you people?

Ours sucks.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2016 04:09 pm
@Builder,
Quote:
So you assume that if you don't have elections, you have a dictatorship?

Isn't a dictatorship the exact opposite of officials being elected?

Quote:
How's that democracy thang working out for you people?

You people? Well I'm an American and we just had elections that went pretty well. My candidate didn't win but that is the way the cookie crumbles.

Quote:
Ours sucks.

Not sure where you live, but you should trying living in the US. Our elections actually work.
 

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