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blatham
 
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Wed 12 Apr, 2017 05:43 am
If you had the idea that James Comey has a hell of a lot to answer for in his behavior in the election run-up, take a look at this
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The FBI obtained a secret court order last summer to monitor the communications of an adviser to presidential candidate Donald Trump, part of an investigation into possible links between Russia and the campaign, law enforcement and other U.S. officials said.

The FBI and the Justice Department obtained the warrant targeting Carter Page’s communications after convincing a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court judge that there was probable cause to believe Page was acting as an agent of a foreign power, in this case Russia, according to the officials.

This is the clearest evidence so far that the FBI had reason to believe during the 2016 presidential campaign that a Trump campaign adviser was in touch with Russian agents. Such contacts are now at the center of an investigation into whether the campaign coordinated with the Russian government to swing the election in Trump’s favor.
WP
snood
 
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Wed 12 Apr, 2017 05:48 am
Everyone please visit my thread about possible replacements for Sean Spicer.
revelette1
 
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Wed 12 Apr, 2017 06:10 am
@blatham,
I had just read that a second ago. You know the more I read into these links, the more I think it is not so much as Trump himself who is suspect (so to speak) as those who sought to be in his campaign. In other words I am trying to say, I think Trump was an easy mark both for Russia and Russia friendly types who were a part of Trump's campaign. In so many ways he is so obviously unqualified to be President. IMO
blatham
 
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Wed 12 Apr, 2017 06:13 am
Another characteristic of authoritarian types is that they are highly punitive.
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Rep. Tom Marino (R-Pa.) will be President Trump's drug czar, according to a report from CBS News. Marino's congressional voting record is that of a hard-liner on marijuana issues, and he recently said that he'd like to put nonviolent drug offenders in some sort of “hospital-slash-prison.”

As drug czar, Marino would oversee the Office of National Drug Control Policy, a branch of the White House that advises the president on drug policy issues. More than anything else, the office sets the tone of an administration's drug policy. Under President Barack Obama, for instance, the office quite publicly retired the phrase “war on drugs,” preferring rhetoric centered more on public health than criminal justice.

Whether that approach continues is something of an open question. Former drug czars from a more militant drug policy era have been publicly agitating to “bring back the war on drugs.” Trump's attorney general, Jeff Sessions, is moving to put criminal justice back at the forefront of drug policy.
WP
This isn't just a retrograde move to erase the Satanic Sixties (which is a recurring theme in conservative movement ideology) it reflects the urge to punish, often severely, those members of the community who are different (they don't get smashed on Scotch or beer but some other "foreign" drug). In British Columbia, for example, anti-drug laws came into being at the beginning of the last century concurrent with the arrival of Chinese railroad workers who brought opium with them.
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revelette1
 
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Wed 12 Apr, 2017 06:15 am
@snood,
I looked for it, I couldn't find it.
blatham
 
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Wed 12 Apr, 2017 06:18 am
@revelette1,
Don't overlook the many and significant ties Trump and his family have in Russia as well. I don't think this is a matter of the company he keeps but rather he chooses the company he keeps because they are like him or have interests and ideas and goals which are a match for him. Con men are going to deal with other con men and they will try to con each other at the same time. If Trump doesn't blow up the world, I think it a certainty that his place in history will be as an exemplar of a criminal organization that managed to get into the WH.
blatham
 
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Wed 12 Apr, 2017 06:20 am
@revelette1,
Snood's thread is https://able2know.org/topic/380046-1
blatham
 
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Wed 12 Apr, 2017 06:34 am
Corporations are amoral entities. What the corporate structure values above all is profits and return to shareholders. So if you want to influence a corporation's behavior, you can hope the appropriate government entities will curtail that behavior and apply legal/judicial penalties. But if such corporations have already influenced laws and policing of those laws (through campaign donations, lobbyists, etc) then all that's left is citizen activism that does serious damage to profits.
Quote:
United Airlines CEO offers softer apology after stock nosedives
Close to $1bn wiped off holding company’s value before stock rallies, after a man was violently removed from a flight by aviation police
Guardian
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revelette1
 
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Wed 12 Apr, 2017 06:44 am
@blatham,
Thanks.
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revelette1
 
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Wed 12 Apr, 2017 06:46 am
@blatham,
You may be right, it was a just a feeling I was getting while I reading that latest piece and I threw it out there. I am not really sure.
blatham
 
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Wed 12 Apr, 2017 06:49 am
@revelette1,
Totally fine. To a great extent, we're all making the best guesses we can based on whatever data we can dig up and it's quite proper to rethink ideas held.
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blatham
 
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Wed 12 Apr, 2017 07:03 am
Talking about the rightwing con
Here's a quote from a piece by Steve Benen on Page and Manafort.
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Last August, a handwritten ledger surfaced in Ukraine with dollar amounts and dates next to the name of Paul Manafort, who was then Donald Trump’s campaign chairman.

Ukrainian investigators called it evidence of off-the-books payments from a pro-Russian political party – and part of a larger pattern of corruption under the country’s former president. Manafort, who worked for the party as an international political consultant, has publicly questioned the ledger’s authenticity.

Now, financial records newly obtained by The Associated Press confirm that at least $1.2 million in payments listed in the ledger next to Manafort’s name were actually received by his consulting firm in the United States
Benen.
So, Manafort gets 1.2 million for that work. Sounds like a good paycheck.

But here's why I note this in the context of the rightwing con that goes on all the time.

Rush Limbaugh makes about that much every single week.
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Baldimo
 
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Wed 12 Apr, 2017 09:41 am
@camlok,
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one that makes the Nazis look like choir boys.

Only you would ever think Nazis were choir boys. I'm guessing you have a poster of Stalin and Mao in your parents basement. Do you have a Che t-shirt and matching beret?

Still nothing on where you call home?
layman
 
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Wed 12 Apr, 2017 09:59 am
@Baldimo,
Cammie is from some middle-eastern shithole, like Iran or Yemen, I figure, but he's currently on the move with ISIS. Only a fanatical muslim radical could have that much rabid hatred against the U.S. being virulently expressed in every single post.
camlok
 
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Wed 12 Apr, 2017 10:03 am
@Baldimo,
You have a terrible grasp of the English language, Baldimo, or even worse, you are deliberately being dishonest. I've seen much evidence for both, so it's hard to be sure for this one situation.

Same goes for layman, in spades. He is not the least bit shy about parading the fact that he is dishonest.

And here you and layman are defending this deep evil. No surprise there.
revelette1
 
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Wed 12 Apr, 2017 10:06 am
Tillerson is meeting Putin today supposedly trading insults and barbs over Syria. Personally I bet Tillerson is reassuring Russia that air strike was a one time thing.

Putin meets Tillerson as tensions rise over Syria /AP

blatham
 
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Wed 12 Apr, 2017 10:12 am
Quote:

Classified docs contradict Nunes surveillance claims, GOP and Dem sources say

After a review of the same intelligence reports brought to light by House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes, both Republican and Democratic lawmakers and aides have so far found no evidence that Obama administration officials did anything unusual or illegal, multiple sources in both parties tell CNN.

Their private assessment contradicts President Donald Trump's allegations that former Obama national security adviser Susan Rice broke the law by requesting the "unmasking" of US individuals' identities. Trump had claimed the matter was a "massive story."
CNN

Immense surprise, this.
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snood
 
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Wed 12 Apr, 2017 10:13 am
@revelette1,
revelette1 wrote:

Tillerson is meeting Putin today supposedly trading insults and barbs over Syria. Personally I bet Tillerson is reassuring Russia that air strike was a one time thing.

Putin meets Tillerson as tensions rise over Syria /AP


Yeah it's Kabuki theatre. Tillerson and Putin were all familiar and friendly for years. Now we're supposed to believe they're cautiously circling and sniffing each other. Anything so we forget that this president and his administration is under investigation by the FBI for possible collusion with Russia.
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blatham
 
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Wed 12 Apr, 2017 10:18 am
@revelette1,
Given Tillerson's prior relationship with Putin, that's a reasonable assumption, rev. Both Putin and the Trump administration have obvious motives for a Kabuki performance here.

As I said earlier, we'll know if there is any real change in this relationship, it will be evidenced by Trump and the GOP actually setting to a thorough investigation of Russian electoral interference rather than denying it (Trump) and obstructing it (House particularly).
Baldimo
 
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Wed 12 Apr, 2017 10:20 am
@camlok,
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You have a terrible grasp of the English language, Baldimo, or even worse, you are deliberately being dishonest. I've seen much evidence for both, so it's hard to be sure for this one situation.

You have already stated that the US has already done much worse, so you must think the Nazis are choir boys compared to the US. JTT, you have said as much since your return as camlok, your meaning and implications haven't changed.

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And here you and layman are defending this deep evil. No surprise there.

I was kidding when I mentioned the posters, shirt and beret, I'm no longer kidding. Do you pay your parents rent for staying in the basement?

Still no mention of where you live. Is this because you know when it is mentioned you will be taken even less serious then you are now? I'm willing to bet you live right here in the good old USA.
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