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gungasnake
 
  0  
Thu 30 Mar, 2017 08:37 am
@farmerman,
Quote:
So a good cleansing pogrom is good for the country every now and then?.


Again the whole deal is entirely hypothetical but, again, If any collection of bodies exists which anybody could attribute to Putin, then you're talking about a half a dozen or a dozen serious assholes, not any sort of a pogrom. The word 'pogrom' means a general ethnic cleansing or massacre of some whole group of people.
georgeob1
 
  -1  
Thu 30 Mar, 2017 09:05 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Money money money money money money money
Quote:
State Department drops human rights as condition for fighter jet sale to Bahrain
The Obama administration had required as a precondition that Bahrain improve its human rights record, but the Trump administration dropped that requirement in a notification to Congress.


Possibly Trump is trying to have a "reset" in our relations with Bahrain.

Like most Moslem countries in the Middle East, Bahrain is highly intolerant of Christians and other non-Moslems, and, like the others, it's Moslem population is composed of Shias and Sunnis who are equally intolerant of each other. In the case of Bahrain, there is a Sunni ruler and elite that rules a largely Shia population. Across the Gulf, Iran is ruled by a Shia theocracy and is working hard to create discord in the Shia populations of Bahrain, the Emirates and Saudi Arabia.

"Human rights records" depend a lot on who is making the judgment. The UN Human Rights Commission finds no fault with either North Korea or these Moslem Countries, despite the avowed religious intolerance and the episodic cases of slavery that arise in some of them. Our former president Obama also ignored all this in his apology tour to the Middle east that was one of his early major acts as President. Obama somehow imagined that he spoke for Western Civilization, as he apologized to all, starting at an eminent university in Cairo. for the past ravages of mostly European colonial powers.

We have an important Naval base in Bahrain, and have used it and our relations with other Moslem nations to contain the revolutionary government of Iran; serve our other self-interests; and sustain the political stability of the region.

Blatham here plucks a detail out of the air to make an essentially fallacious point, mocking the actions of a neighboring government and our Christian traditions as he does so, oblivious of the political realities involved, and himself offering no alternative of any kind.

Meanwhile his Canadian government oversees the sale of it's uranium mining assets to Russia; piously supports international agreements on "climate change" ( all while itself having a much higher per capita rate of carbon emissions than any country in the Western Hemisphere); and as it earns most of its trade surplus through the export of tar sands petroleum - the only significant fuel in the world that is actually much dirtier than coal.

It often appears to me that Blatham should turn his zeal for reform closer to home. It is a bit strange that. with so much in Canada that should engage his professed concerns, he instead obsesses in the internal affairs of a neighboring country. Perhaps he finds Canada a bit boring.
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gungasnake
 
  0  
Thu 30 Mar, 2017 09:33 am
@RABEL222,

Duck hunting basics 101, the reason for the magnum-sized hunting shells... Basically, the magnum shells correspond to the mandated use of steel shot for waterfowl (so they don't get poisoned from eating lead shot lying around on the bottoms of lakes or bay areas...); the less dense steel shot simply takes up more volume. Using lead shot and modern powders, you could easily load ordinary 2.75" (non magnum) shells which would bring down anything that flies.
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old europe
 
  3  
Thu 30 Mar, 2017 10:00 am
Trump threatening the Freedom Caucus? That's gonna be interesting:

http://i.imgur.com/Merp4Gq.png

Sounds like someone is still sulking over the failure of the Republican health care bill....
glitterbag
 
  3  
Thu 30 Mar, 2017 10:09 am
Everybody look!!!!! A Larouche reference! I will wait for georgeob's intricately worded yet overwrought condemnation of such nonsense. I know he won't stand for such a corrupt mischaracterization by the notorious Larouchies. It would rank right up there with endorsing the John Birch Society, which is another thing georgeob has too much integrity and patriotic fervor to do.

farmerman
 
  6  
Thu 30 Mar, 2017 10:22 am
@gungasnake,
Quote:
not any sort of a pogrom. The word 'pogrom' means a general ethnic cleansing or massacre of some whole group of people.
I understand. My ancestors hoe to become Orthodox Christins n then RCC's in order not to be exterminated or starved as the Jews they were.

So youre only for "little pogroms"? I see. How many constitutes a mini pogrom
cicerone imposter
 
  4  
Thu 30 Mar, 2017 10:34 am
@farmerman,
Trump's disapproval rating is approaching 60%. Poor child.
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georgeob1
 
  0  
Thu 30 Mar, 2017 10:43 am
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:

Everybody look!!!!! A Larouche reference! I will wait for georgeob's intricately worded yet overwrought condemnation of such nonsense. I know he won't stand for such a corrupt mischaracterization by the notorious Larouchies. It would rank right up there with endorsing the John Birch Society, which is another thing georgeob has too much integrity and patriotic fervor to do.


I made no such reference or anything remotely like one. Perhaps you are delusional. Is something else bothering you?
hightor
 
  4  
Thu 30 Mar, 2017 10:48 am
@georgeob1,
The comment is referring to this post. Nothing delusional. Just wanted your analysis.
thack45
 
  3  
Thu 30 Mar, 2017 11:01 am
@old europe,
This guy's not so good with the politickin'.
hightor
 
  3  
Thu 30 Mar, 2017 11:14 am
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:
Everybody look!!!!! A Larouche reference!


Yeah! Incredible. But I've seen obungasnake refer to Larouche sites before and it struck me that when you really look at the links he submits — Larouche, RT, InfoWars, consjournal, verydicey.com, really awful youtube vids, and assorted 'fake news' sites — a pattern begins to emerge: he's doing fifth column work for our side — obungasnake is a mole! Posing as your typical unhinged right-wing flaggot, he loads these pages with propaganda which is so extremist, so transparently biased, so totally unconvincing that it becomes obvious that his goal is to make conservatives look bad. He wants to reveal them as narrow-minded, parochial people who can't survive outside their own little echo chamber. I appreciate what you're doing, son, I really do. But I don't think you're being fair to our friends on the other side of the aisle. The things you post actually make them look a lot worse than they really are.
georgeob1
 
  0  
Thu 30 Mar, 2017 11:27 am
@hightor,
Thanks. I hadn't read it at all and rarely tune in to that stuff.

I was commenting only on the post I quoted. I thought I was clear, but perhaps Glitterbag doesn't read carefully.
Baldimo
 
  0  
Thu 30 Mar, 2017 11:48 am
@blatham,
Quote:
Money money money money money money money
Quote:
State Department drops human rights as condition for fighter jet sale to Bahrain
The Obama administration had required as a precondition that Bahrain improve its human rights record, but the Trump administration dropped that requirement in a notification to Congress.
WP
Exactly what Jesus would do.

I'm sorry, how exactly did Iran or Cuba improve their human rights records prior to Obama signing deals and handing over money?
revelette1
 
  5  
Thu 30 Mar, 2017 12:00 pm
Quote:
2 White House Officials Helped Nunes View Secret Reports

WASHINGTON — A pair of White House officials played a role in providing Representative Devin Nunes of California, the Republican chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, with the intelligence reports that showed President Trump and his associates were incidentally swept up in foreign surveillance by American spy agencies.

The revelation that White House officials assisted in the disclosure of the intelligence reports — which Mr. Nunes then discussed with President Trump — is likely to fuel criticism that the intelligence chairman has been too eager to do the bidding of the Trump administration while his committee is supposed to be conducting an independent investigation of Russia’s meddling in the last presidential election.

Mr. Nunes has also been faulted by his congressional colleagues for sharing the information with President Trump before consulting with other members of the intelligence committee.


More at NYT

I had to delete my comments because it messed up my url. Anyway I just something to the effect of the bad joke the house republicans are playing on the public with this hearing.
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thack45
 
  5  
Thu 30 Mar, 2017 12:06 pm
@thack45,
thack45 wrote:

This guy's not so good with the politickin'.

As demonstrated here..
Trump Spurns Bipartisanship, Vows to ‘Fight’ Fellow Republicans in 2018
Quote:
White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer told NBC News after the defeat that the takeaway from the experience was knowing who the White House could trust and work with, and who they couldn't.

"Some people you can take at their word," he said at the time.

Not only is it unusual for a president to take on his own party, but it runs counter to a new narrative from the White House that it's seeking bipartisan support on future legislative efforts.

Trump shared a rare evening of bipartisanship with senators and their spouses Tuesday evening at the White House, with Spicer telling reporters the president looked forward to the opportunity to "speak with some of the senators about the places where they can come together and make this country better."

Spicer specifically mentioned outreach to Democrats on confirming Supreme Court nominee Neil Gorsuch.

But Spicer also invited Democrats to join the administration as they plan tax reform and infrastructure overhauls. "We'd love to have as much support as possible," he said Tuesday briefing the press.

So we have a president who has made it clear that he is at any moment willing to vilify anyone in order to serve himself. And we have Paul Ryan who is hell-bent on hammering away at the wedge in the country's political divide. And finally, we have this bluster about all of the people in the way, all of the people "we need to fight". Seems to me it'd be a hell of a lot easier for everyone if we just got rid of these two dopes.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Thu 30 Mar, 2017 12:14 pm
@thack45,
Trump's order is always to serve himself. He's a narcissist man-child who will never mature beyond his current age.
McGentrix
 
  1  
Thu 30 Mar, 2017 12:31 pm
@georgeob1,
georgeob1 wrote:

Thanks. I hadn't read it at all and rarely tune in to that stuff.

I was commenting only on the post I quoted. I thought I was clear, but perhaps Glitterbag doesn't read carefully.


No doubt.
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MontereyJack
 
  3  
Thu 30 Mar, 2017 12:43 pm
Watts testimony --Trump a Russian dupe unquestioningly repeating Russian-originated conspiracy theories about his opponents. Can we impeachhim yet?
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Olivier5
 
  2  
Thu 30 Mar, 2017 01:34 pm
@Baldimo,
Quote:
I'm sorry, how exactly did Iran or Cuba improve their human rights records prior to Obama signing deals and handing over money?

You should be sorry, because Obama never gave any money to Cuba or Iran.
 

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