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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

Trump saw thousands of Muslims celebrating when the twin towers were destroyed. He's the only one who saw it.
You're seeing things that doesn't exist too! You belong in the looney bin.

Nonsense. We've all seen the coverage of thousands of Muslims celebrating the 9/11 attacks.

The fact that Trump got the location wrong is hardly important.

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@cicerone imposter,

Peep the url...

I'm adding nothing to this thread. sorry

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

Who voted for this crazy man as our president?

Me. It is nice to finally have a president who isn't trying to violate our Constitutional rights.

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@oralloy,

oralloy wrote:

Why do liberals hate facts so much?

When in Rome..

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Proof that we are not always in the body to which we belong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vpXX5BjltM

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@RABEL222,

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@gungasnake,
You forgot to post Putins list of dead bodies. Politics Russian style.

When Putin took over, Russia had just managed to survive 70 years of communism followed by another dozen or so years of rule by oligarchs, vulture capitalists, and New World order types. Russians were literally starving, I was reading stories about women using their one food coupon for the day for a child and going hungry themselves.

IF there actually is any sort of a collection of bodies which Putin might be responsible for in his rise to power, and that is a huge if, then those would be bodies of those responsible for some of that **** to one extent or other.

You want to know how close I could come to feeling sorry for any of those assholes? A guy on another team in a volleyball league I used to belong to was wearing a Ducks Unlimited tshirt one night and a girl in my team asked him if he actually killed ducks. The guy replied "Sure, I've killed LOTS of ducks, but they were ALL BAD..."

That's about how sorry I could feel for any leftover commie or vulture capitalist assholes who Putin may have ever croaked, that is, about as sorry as I'd ever feel for one of those bad ducks.

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@RABEL222,

Feel free to ask any questions you might have about duck hunting....

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@gungasnake,

Get to the vulture capitalists next. When is it open season on them?

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@gungasnake,

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That's about how sorry I could feel for any leftover commie or vulture capitalist assholes who Putin may have ever croaked, that is, about as sorry as I'd ever feel for one of those bad ducks.

I agree. Killing political opponents clears up the situation a lot. Simple and effective. Let's hope Putin, in his great wisdom, croaks Trump at some point. The sooner the better... Vultures are no better than ducks.

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@oralloy,

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I do know however that Obama lied when he said that people on existing insurance could keep it.

That's just it-they could keep it. If you were on a plan before March 23, 2010, and you wanted to keep it, you could. The plans did not have to meet all the standards that ACA plans had to meet, those standards were lowered for the already existing health care plans. These were the "grandfathered" plans.

If the plans could not meet even the far less stringent requirements for coverage than the ACA needed to meet, then the plan was junk. There were a ton of junk plans out there which had high deductibles, didn't even pay for emergency room visits, etc. These plans were usually offered in jobs that didn't pay very much, and it was cheaper for the business owner to carry, but the fact is the plans covered little to nothing with super high deductibles. Junk, in other words. And the plans that were no longer offered turned out to be less than 2% of the health plans anyway-by and large, if you had a real plan and wanted to keep it, you could. And people did.

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@oralloy,

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Prior to Obamacare I had traditional insurance where I could see any doctor in existence without worrying about any networks. And my out-of-pocket maximum was only $250 per year.

A. Did you buy this plan yourself or was this through the job you had?

B. If you bought this plan yourself, how much were the premiums compared to the ACA plan you bought the next year? Reason I ask is I checked out the price of some plans in 2013, the year before Obamacare went into effect, and the premiums for similar coverage was under 10% a month less than full price, (unsubsidized), ACA premiums offered the next year.

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A US federal judge in Hawaii has indefinitely extended the suspension of President Trump's new travel ban.

Judge Derrick Watson's ruling means Mr Trump will be barred from enforcing the ban on six mostly Muslim nations while it is contested in court.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39439595

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@izzythepush,

Trump has TO LEARN THAT THE THREE CO-EQUAL BRANCHES OF GOVT ACH HAVE THE ABILITY TO SAY "**** YOU VERY MUCH" TO EACH OTHER. (COURSE, I THINK Pres TWEETS IS THE ONLY ONE WHO ACTUALLY WOULD SAY "**** YOU VERY MUCH")

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@gungasnake,

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IF there actually is any sort of a collection of bodies which Putin might be responsible for in his rise to power, and that is a huge if, then those would be bodies of those responsible for some of that **** to one extent or other.

So a good cleansing pogrom is good for the country every now and then?.

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@Blickers,

Blickers wrote:

That's just it-they could keep it. If you were on a plan before March 23, 2010, and you wanted to keep it, you could. The plans did not have to meet all the standards that ACA plans had to meet, those standards were lowered for the already existing health care plans. These were the "grandfathered" plans.

Except we weren't allowed to keep them. We were all forced off them and onto the exchanges where the best available plan was not nearly as good.

Blickers wrote:

If the plans could not meet even the far less stringent requirements for coverage than the ACA needed to meet, then the plan was junk. There were a ton of junk plans out there which had high deductibles, didn't even pay for emergency room visits, etc. These plans were usually offered in jobs that didn't pay very much, and it was cheaper for the business owner to carry, but the fact is the plans covered little to nothing with super high deductibles. Junk, in other words.

But they weren't junk. They were better than anything offered on the Obamacare exchanges. Obama was just lying, again, to excuse his earlier lie.

Blickers wrote:

And the plans that were no longer offered turned out to be less than 2% of the health plans anyway-by and large, if you had a real plan and wanted to keep it, you could. And people did.

Except we couldn't. We were forced to give up our superior plans and buy a more mediocre plan from the exchanges.

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@Blickers,

Blickers wrote:

A. Did you buy this plan yourself or was this through the job you had?

B. If you bought this plan yourself, how much were the premiums compared to the ACA plan you bought the next year? Reason I ask is I checked out the price of some plans in 2013, the year before Obamacare went into effect, and the premiums for similar coverage was under 10% a month less than full price, (unsubsidized), ACA premiums offered the next year.

I bought the plan myself directly as an individual. From what I recall, the price was about the same.

My pre-Obamacare plan was not directly comparable though. Before Obamacare I had traditional insurance where I could see any doctor in the universe without needing to worry about being "in network". And my yearly out-of-pocket costs were capped at $250.

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@farmerman,

I don't think he'd say "very much," it almost sounds polite regardless of what precedes it.

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@izzythepush,

He says that lately hes exercising his vast vocabulary. Or prhaps its "half vast"

Every so ofetn we elect some clown into office, I looked at the calendar and we were waaay overdue for Bozo's re-emergence

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Money money money money money money money

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State Department drops human rights as condition for fighter jet sale to Bahrain
The Obama administration had required as a precondition that Bahrain improve its human rights record, but the Trump administration dropped that requirement in a notification to Congress.

WP
Exactly what Jesus would do.

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Nearly two weeks ago, Fox News legal analyst Andrew Napolitano was reportedly pulled from the air for making baseless claims that British intelligence officials spied on Donald Trump in 2016 at the request of then-President Barack Obama.

On Wednesday morning, Napolitano returned to the network

WP

I said here when this happened that it would be only temporary because Fox for years has used Napolitano on a regular basis to give an air of legal expertise that they've found useful in validating talking points.

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