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@BillW,

BillW wrote:

WED 9 Dec, 2020 02:46 am

My bet right now is that SCOTUS will deny the Texas case because it wasn't timely. I don't think they will go any further than that, but, if they do they will also deny the suit because Texas doesn't have standing. Thirdly, it contains all the BS in the other 50+ cases plus this new flim flam from Dr Cicchetti. Denial of lack of evidence and garbage not made out of whole cloth!

It will be another STFU reading from the court.

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@oralloy,

I previously said if you wanted to impeach the Democratic leaders, but you remain committed to the "Outlaw the Democrats" idea.
https://able2know.org/topic/267070-1258#post-7086930

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@farmerman,

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My respect for this courts independence has gone up several decades worth.

Not so for me. These five aren't anarchists or revolutionaries in the mode of Steve Bannon. They aren't stupid nor crazy persons but they are ideologues. It's what qualifies them for Federalist Society approval. Just as with other GOP appointed justices in lower courts, the cases they were presented were too far out and, if supported, too likely to bring disrepute on those courts and justices (not to mention the real possibility of serious civic disruption). But they have an agenda (highly theocratic, unsympathetic to civil rights, labor issues, gender equality and voting rights while deeply committed to minimal restrictions on corporate behavior) and it will be slowly realized up the road. They kept their powder dry.

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@blatham,

Besides, nobody wants a stupid, bumbling Don De la Rump in charge. They will wait for a Pompano or maybe Pence....ugh😖

I agree with you, I certainly don't have much respect for this court!

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@blatham,

Jeezus. There are sveralUSSC issues that I think I can rest my approval.
One is that I believe they will , under Roberts be pecked into valuing Stare decisis. As far as Roe v Wade , i see that being accomodated in a somewhat different mode.
I see gun control a generational mod wherein the 2nd A being preserved and further limited in a mode that Scalia saw as desirable for our growing population.

To me, a hyper progressive leaniing is as dangerous as is hyper conservative.

I detect "titles"of your positions, sometimes we should open a thread on all of those topics and explore how similar our beliefs are in a Liberal v Conservative worldview.
I find myself unflinchingly conservative on a few subjects, like privacy or the 2nd A (Scalia style), and extremely progressive on Health, Applied science, Environment, and civil rights.
"You cannot eat an eliphont in one meal"

I disagree with you from what Ive seen demo's by The Chief Justice. Hes been among the least idealogue of BOTH sides.

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@Rebelofnj,

Rebelofnj wrote:

I previously said if you wanted to impeach the Democratic leaders, but you remain committed to the "Outlaw the Democrats" idea.

It is possible to do both.

For that matter, I am all for criminal prosecutions if an actual crime is committed. However I am not aware of any such crime at the moment.

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@farmerman,

farmerman wrote:

I find myself unflinchingly conservative on a few subjects, like privacy or the 2nd A (Scalia style), and extremely progressive on Health, Applied science, Environment, and civil rights.

That is more of your phony nonsense.

The Heller ruling forbade violating civil liberties for no reason. You routinely advocate for such violations.

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Texas GOP Chairman Allen West Suggests Secession After SCOTUS Betrayal on Lawsuit

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eo_uLbkW4AQiZ7w?format=jpg&name=900x900

Why not? We have a president already.
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/texas-gop-chairman-allen-west-suggests-secession-after-scotus-betrayal-on-lawsuit/

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@coldjoint,

The path is open for the Republicans to send an alternate slate of electors for Wisconsin, or at least refuse to accept the Biden slate.

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Trump 'not finished,' looking at other options, lawyers say: 'We still have time'

Trump never gives up. Do him a favor and count him out. Biden won with miracles in 6 states. Trump is entitled to one.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/dec/11/rudy-giuliani-jenna-ellis-say-donald-trump-not-fin/

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Google/Facebook Employees Rapidly Joining The Biden-Harris Transition Team…

Now is time to start worrying about a dictator, we are on our way.
https://www.weaselzippers.us/460688-google-facebook-employees-rapidly-joining-the-biden-harris-transition-team/

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@farmerman,

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I believe they will , under Roberts be pecked into valuing Stare decisis. As far as Roe v Wade , i see that being accomodated in a somewhat different mode.

Agreed that Roberts is the lesser ideologue of the bunch. But I don't see a history of his court paying much heed to prior decisions. As to Roe, my wager would certainly be that the conservatives on the SC will continue to support state-originated laws that make abortion difficult to near impossible to access. That trend has achieved many of the goals the religious right has had over the last two decades without the fireworks that overturning Roe would surely bring about (though overturning Roe may happen anyway, it's just more risky politically but less risky now than 10 or 20 years ago when Joe from Chicago argued the GOP would never actually push for it because of electoral disaster).

You and I differ on the Second A. Our countries aren't much different in history, settlement populations and culture yet your rates of homicide by guns (per 100 of population) is three times what it is up here. That's a lot of dead people (and many more maimed). And this all becomes rather more acute given the present rise of radical and ad hoc "militia" groups eager to find cause for violent retribution against the enemies their paranoid notions tend to target. But neither you nor I are so nutty we couldn't work that out, I expect.

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so, what's happening over at Parler tonight, you ask

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EpAMNamUUAEslWT?format=jpg&name=large

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@blatham,

blatham wrote:

so, what's happening over at Parler tonight, you ask

Looking good. You should join and then promise to leave. They won't believe you either.

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@blatham,

I'm not at all surprised by the calls for secession and civil war. I highly doubt that will happen, though.

Seeing as there are no widespread protests from Trump supporters regarding the Court's dismissal (all the outrage I have seen is online), I'm not worried about any threats for secession.

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@blatham,

blatham wrote:

You and I differ on the Second A. Our countries aren't much different in history, settlement populations and culture yet your rates of homicide by guns (per 100 of population) is three times what it is up here. That's a lot of dead people (and many more maimed). And this all becomes rather more acute given the present rise of radical and ad hoc "militia" groups eager to find cause for violent retribution against the enemies their paranoid notions tend to target.

Bad things happen when you try to think for yourself Blatham. If you could avoid the pretense of trying to pose as an intellectual, your "I think what that guy thinks" game would actually improve your insipid posts.

First, it hardly matters whether someone is murdered with a gun versus with some other weapon. They are just as dead no matter what is used to kill them.

Second, while there are indeed more privately-owned guns in the US than there are in Canada, there are plenty of privately-owned guns in Canada -- more than enough to have an impact if gun ownership were any kind of a negative factor.

Third, the rise of the militia movement is entirely the fault of progressives and their endless efforts to violate people's civil liberties for fun. If progressives had never taken the position that people only have gun rights if they are in a militia, no one would be trying to join militias today.

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@farmerman,

I agree. I'm holding my breath, but so far, so good.

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'WE'RE NOT FINISHED...BELIEVE ME': America's Mayor Rudy Giuliani reacts to the Supreme Court throwing out the lawsuit Texas presented. http://nws.mx/tv

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