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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 10:56 pm
https://nationalfile.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Arizona-Ward-SCOTUS-Case-750x388.png
Quote:
Arizona GOP Chair Dr Kelli Ward has announced they are taking their election integrity case to SCOTUS, and are hoping for an expedited hearing.

Dr Ward and the Arizona GOP discovered last week alleged evidence of voter fraud when they were allowed to examine a number of duplicated and adjudicated ballots. Arizona GOP lawyer Jack Wilenchik wrote in a court filing that one original ballot contained “was clearly a vote for Trump,” but the “duplicate ballot switched the vote to Biden,” while a second Trump vote was completely discarded, due to the duplicate ballot also including a “blank” vote for a write-in presidential candidate.

After further vote analysis, Ward announced on Friday that the Arizona GOP was taking their case to SCOTUS, noting that they would be only the third case this election to be accepted by the Supreme Court if they were. Ward argued that the case was necessary because they had not received “due process” during their investigation:

It’s unconstitutional for us not to have due process, which is time to be able to make a case, do discovery, and hold an entire hearing. The judge set unrealistic deadlines. He believed he had to have his case out of his hands by December 8th. Well, that only gave us three days to examine up to three million ballots, which we all know is impossible. And in Arizona, it’s interesting because for over 100 years, we’ve had to file an election contest the day after the election is certified. So that gives us only eight days to do the entire job that we need to do, and everyone knows that that’s not enough time to do the job in a case that is as important as choosing our next president. So this is going to go to the Supreme Court.

She is not suing another state so it passes that test and also brings hard evidence.
https://nationalfile.com/more-for-scotus-arizona-gop-chair-kelli-ward-announces-case-now-submitted-to-scotus/
MontereyJack
 
  2  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 10:58 pm
@coldjoint,
Nope. They're finished.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 11:06 pm
@MontereyJack,
If nothing else, the lawsuits have given the Republicans a free and clear path towards rejecting the Biden electors from Wisconsin.

If the Republicans act quickly enough they will even be able to replace Wisconsin's Biden electors with Trump electors.

I don't know if the Republicans will choose to do so, but in my opinion they certainly should.
MontereyJack
 
  2  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 11:07 pm
@coldjoint,
SCOTUS won't take it. Not on the basis of three ballots with absolutely no likelihood there would be enough to change the putcome of the election, Never gonna happen. They're finished.
coldjoint
 
  0  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 11:08 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:

Nope. They're finished.

You are a moot point.
MontereyJack
 
  2  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 11:08 pm
@oralloy,
Nonsense.
MontereyJack
 
  2  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 11:10 pm
@coldjoint,
I'd say SCOTUS says you're the mooot point. That's one of the reasons they tossed the TX lawsuit.
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 11:12 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:

SCOTUS won't take it. Not on the basis of three ballots with absolutely no likelihood there would be enough to change the putcome of the election, Never gonna happen. They're finished.

You did not read the link.

Quote:
After further vote analysis, Ward announced on Friday that the Arizona GOP was taking their case to SCOTUS,

They have more than three ballots.
oralloy
 
  0  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 11:14 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
Nonsense.

Wrong again. The Republicans are free and clear to reject the Biden slate from Wisconsin and replace it with a Trump slate. All they need to do is vote to accept a Trump slate instead of the Biden slate when the electoral votes are counted by Congress.
MontereyJack
 
  2  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 11:39 pm
@oralloy,
wrong, as usual.. if they triede that, they'd become criminals for violating state law, which in 48 states, including wisconsin, mandates electors vote for the winner of the popular vote in that state, which is state ceetified as joe biden. Of course we know republicans have no respect for law. Neither does oralloy.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 11:48 pm
@MontereyJack,
Nope. You are the one who is repeatedly wrong. Congress has every right to reject the Biden slate from Wisconsin and accept a rival slate in its stead.
MontereyJack
 
  2  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 11:50 pm
@coldjoint,
did read the link (it's not working now), they cited three, and SCOTUS is not going to delay things and give them carte blanche to delay to look again at, what is it, three million ballots on such a specious basis. Rudy keeps getting tossed he will be again here. They ARE finished.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 11:51 pm
@MontereyJack,
The Republicans can still vote to flip Wisconsin when Congress counts the electoral votes.
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MontereyJack
 
  2  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 11:51 pm
@oralloy,
SCOTUS thinks your head is wedged.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 11:52 pm
@MontereyJack,
Wrong again. SCOTUS joins me in supporting the Constitution.
MontereyJack
 
  3  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 11:58 pm
@oralloy,
You're on pretty shaky legal ground to assert that congress has the right to change the certified winner of a state's election to someone else purely on congress's whim. Biden won. the electors have to be pledged to him.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Sat 12 Dec, 2020 12:06 am
@MontereyJack,
Not at all shaky. Congress has every right to reject the Biden slate from Wisconsin and substitute a rival slate.

All the Republicans need is the will to cast the votes.
snood
 
  2  
Sat 12 Dec, 2020 12:45 am
This SCOTUS decision is a long awaited reason to exhale.

Texas was rejected and no dissenting vote was made public.

Two of the justices (Thomas and Alito) made a statement that they believe all cases between the states should be heard. Even those two though, say they would have opposed Texas.

I say exhale and not celebrate because the foul politics that brought us to still be arguing about a decision made by the American people over a month later was able to push as far as it did.

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Walter Hinteler
 
  5  
Sat 12 Dec, 2020 01:31 am
Trump said late Friday that Pfizer had “passed the gold standard of safety,” in a video statement hailing the vaccine as "one of the greatest scientific accomplishments in history". The USA is "the first country in the world" to produce a verifiable safe and effective vaccine.

This is not true, however, as the US company Pfizer was involved as a partner in the development of the vaccine by the German company BionTech.
The drug is also produced outside the USA and is even already used in some countries.
roger
 
  4  
Sat 12 Dec, 2020 01:39 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Well, isn't The Donald quick to decide this really is a serious disease and he's all ready to fight the good fight.
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