maporsche
 
  2  
Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2017 02:11 pm
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:

I'll give you a B for effort. You can't try and pin something on me I never said. It's a continued deflection of not knowing what you are talking about. Do you really think a University who agree's with sanctuary city policies is going to release honest "research" on illegal immigrants? Of course they aren't. Why don't you actually talk to someone who works in an emergency room and then come talk to me.


I'm a nurse Baldimo. I have worked in an ER. I also have a sister whom I see often who works with minorities. Her and I talk about this.

I guess because we live in sanctuary city like Chicago, that our anecdotal experience doesn't mean anything to you.

Can we talk again? Or maybe do you want me to go to some rural hospital in Texas?
Baldimo
 
  -1  
Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2017 02:18 pm
@maporsche,
You are a nurse? I thought you worked for an insurance company? How long did you work in the ER? My sister is also a nurse and has worked labor and delivery as well as an ER, she's been doing it for 20 years in Phoenix, you been doing it for how long? Do you work in the city or do you work in the burbs? If you live in the burbs and have never worked in the city?
maporsche
 
  3  
Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2017 02:22 pm
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:

You are a nurse? I thought you worked for an insurance company? How long did you work in the ER? My sister is also a nurse and has worked labor and delivery as well as an ER, she's been doing it for 20 years in Phoenix, you been doing it for how long? Do you work in the city or do you work in the burbs? If you live in the burbs and have never worked in the city?


I've been a nurse for 2 years; it's a part time job. I also work for a fortune 250 financial company in operations. I was in an ER for 9 months, but I know dozens of ER nurses/doctors who work in my facility. Good friends with several.

This is in Chicago. I live and work there.

None of this matters though Baldimo. It's irrelevant to the original point I was making, you're trying really hard to ignore the evidence in front of you, but we all can see what you're doing.
Baldimo
 
  -1  
Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2017 02:33 pm
@maporsche,
Quote:
I've been a nurse for 2 years; it's a part time job. I was in an ER for 9 months

So 2 years on a part time job and only 9 months in an ER, training I'm assuming, and I'm suppose to take your word for it? I have more experience working on helicopters, does that make me an expert on how planes work?

Quote:
dozens of ER nurses/doctors who work in my facility. Good friends with several.

My grandfather was the head surgeon for several Chicago hospitals, does that mean anything? My uncle Andy was Professor Andy on the Bozo show, does that mean I know anything about being a clown?

Quote:
None of this matters though Baldimo. It's irrelevant to the original point I was making, you're trying really hard to ignore the evidence in front of you, but we all can see what you're doing.

I'm not ignoring it, I'm dismissing it because it is from UCLA, which is in a city that doesn't see a problem with illegal immigration. They are bias in favor of illegal immigrants. If you can find a different study from a non-partisan group, then you might have something.

maporsche
 
  2  
Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2017 02:36 pm
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:

Quote:
I've been a nurse for 2 years; it's a part time job. I was in an ER for 9 months

So 2 years on a part time job and only 9 months in an ER, training I'm assuming, and I'm suppose to take your word for it? I have more experience working on helicopters, does that make me an expert on how planes work?

Quote:
dozens of ER nurses/doctors who work in my facility. Good friends with several.

My grandfather was the head surgeon for several Chicago hospitals, does that mean anything? My uncle Andy was Professor Andy on the Bozo show, does that mean I know anything about being a clown?

Quote:
None of this matters though Baldimo. It's irrelevant to the original point I was making, you're trying really hard to ignore the evidence in front of you, but we all can see what you're doing.

I'm not ignoring it, I'm dismissing it because it is from UCLA, which is in a city that doesn't see a problem with illegal immigration. They are bias in favor of illegal immigrants. If you can find a different study from a non-partisan group, then you might have something.


I'm not the one that suggested that I should go talk to a nurse in an ER baldimo, that was YOU!

If you've got a problem with me bringing up that fact that I WAS an ER nurse, and current speak to dozens of ER employees 28 hours a week as part of one of my jobs, you don't need to take that up with ME....take it up with the jackass who tried to make that an issue (hint...that was you).
maporsche
 
  4  
Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2017 02:40 pm
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:

Quote:
I've been a nurse for 2 years; it's a part time job. I was in an ER for 9 months

So 2 years on a part time job and only 9 months in an ER, training I'm assuming, and I'm suppose to take your word for it? I have more experience working on helicopters, does that make me an expert on how planes work?

Quote:
dozens of ER nurses/doctors who work in my facility. Good friends with several.

My grandfather was the head surgeon for several Chicago hospitals, does that mean anything? My uncle Andy was Professor Andy on the Bozo show, does that mean I know anything about being a clown?


God, you're being a dick.

All I'm doing here is literally answering your direct questions. I'm not claiming that my experience gives me some special insight. YOU were making that claim...or you were before you knew that I actually have some experience in this area.
Baldimo
 
  -1  
Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2017 02:42 pm
@maporsche,
Nursing is a part time job with you, so have can you speak to experience when you have only been doing it for 2 years? All that experience... In all that rambling about you being a nurse, you didn't even say anything in relation to what we were talking about. The ability of illegal immigrants to seek medical help in hospitals. You didn't even touch it expect to put up a bias study done by a university in a sanctuary city.
Baldimo
 
  -1  
Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2017 02:43 pm
@maporsche,
If pointing out your logical fallacies is being a dick, then I guess I'm a dick. Your 2 whole years of experience working part time as a nurse...
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maporsche
 
  3  
Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2017 02:50 pm
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:

Nursing is a part time job with you, so have can you speak to experience when you have only been doing it for 2 years? All that experience... In all that rambling about you being a nurse, you didn't even say anything in relation to what we were talking about. The ability of illegal immigrants to seek medical help in hospitals. You didn't even touch it expect to put up a bias study done by a university in a sanctuary city.


You know why? Because whatever personal experience I have DOES NOT MATTER.

It is irrelevant to the discuss whether I have 1 day experience or 20 years experience.

I'll point out again that YOU brought this up....not me.
gungasnake
 
  0  
Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2017 04:24 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
I think you've confused Trump with Bill Clinton.


I was waiting for somebody else to say it....
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gungasnake
 
  0  
Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2017 04:26 pm
@maporsche,
Quote:
How have the democrats obstructed the Trump administration as of January 5th, 2017


The Hollyweirdos in Californicatia have hired Eric Holder as a sort of an anti-Trump tsar or something like that. ThatÅ› close to a declaration of war...
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2017 04:29 pm
@gungasnake,
What kind of war would that be? Words or swords? LOL
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Finn dAbuzz
 
  1  
Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2017 04:35 pm
@maporsche,
I never argued Obama didn't suffer from gross exaggeration posed against him, so your links are meaningless.

If you thought it was heinous behavior, as you obviously did, you had two choices when the next Republican was elected: Not participate in what you believe to have been scurrilous behavior or double down

Obviously you chose the latter, and, in doing so, have teed up an even more extreme reaction when the next Democrat is elected.

What goes around, comes around.
Baldimo
 
  -1  
Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2017 04:54 pm
@maporsche,
Quote:
You know why? Because whatever personal experience I have DOES NOT MATTER.

I brought up talking to a nurse about the issues we were discussing. Do illegal immigrants use the emergency room for everything, with no real fear of being deported? You said you were a nurse. I think you brought your personal experience into the discussion, I questioned whether 2 years as a part time nurse really qualified you to have a professional opinion on the subject. You said you had 9 months in an ER and further said it was in the city. So in your opinion did you see any issues with illegal immigrants having problems getting care? Did you see illegal immigrants in the waiting rooms did they seem scared? We can compare your experience to my sister, who has been a nurse in Phoenix in 20 years. Who stories am I to believe?

Quote:
It is irrelevant to the discuss whether I have 1 day experience or 20 years experience.

As I mentioned above, in the scope of the discussion where you brought up the fact that you were a nurse, who then had some experience dealing with illegal immigrants in the ER. You made your experience relevant. You don't like that I have questioned that relevance.

Quote:
I'll point out again that YOU brought this up....not me.

I said ask a nurse, you said that you were a nurse.
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maporsche
 
  3  
Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2017 05:18 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:

I never argued Obama didn't suffer from gross exaggeration posed against him, so your links are meaningless.

If you thought it was heinous behavior, as you obviously did, you had two choices when the next Republican was elected: Not participate in what you believe to have been scurrilous behavior or double down

Obviously you chose the latter, and, in doing so, have teed up an even more extreme reaction when the next Democrat is elected.

What goes around, comes around.


You said that there were no efforts to delegitimize the Obama presidency before he was sworn in. This was offered as proof that what Democrats are doing is "5 notches" worse.

The birther movement proves you wrong.

Let's just leave it at that.
Frugal1
 
  -3  
Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2017 05:20 pm
@maporsche,
The birther movement is a democrat creation, that nasty woman is the democrat that created it.

Democrats own the birther movement, let's just leave it at that.
Frugal1
 
  -2  
Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2017 05:35 pm
@maporsche,
Quote:
You said that there were no efforts to delegitimize the Obama presidency before he was sworn in.


Finn dAbuzz gave you the fact of the matter, he is being straight with you.

I remember fellow republicans being in shock that 0bama got elected. Our reaction was quiet, we crossed our fingers and hoped for the best. To our dismay, we quickly realized that Hannity, Boortz, and Rush were correct to voice their warnings about the guy that wasn't vetted any better than the so called 'refugees' that he has imported into this nation.
The interesting thing, 0bama is much worse than had been predicted - much worse for America, and her allies. 0bama has infected this nation with a death cult virus.

"Worst President Ever!" is not just a bumper sticker, it's our reality in real time.
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RABEL222
 
  3  
Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2017 07:49 pm
@Frugal1,
In 2004 a political gladfly issued a press release calling Barack Obama a complete fraud who had misrepresented his heritage. Shortly after Donald tRump also latched on to this misinformation and passed it on,
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2017 07:56 pm
@RABEL222,
Pressed on for five years. Trump, the pathological liar, has the gall to accuse our president of not being born in the US.
There are plenty of proof that Trump is a pathological liar, a racial bigot, and scammer of many.
Frugal1
 
  -1  
Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2017 08:16 pm
@RABEL222,
Quote:
In 2004 a political gladfly issued a press release calling Barack Obama a complete fraud who had misrepresented his heritage


A gladfly working with / for the Clinton crime family.

There's beating a dead horse, and then there's beating a dead horse.
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