Oh, so you don't believe that our current admin has lied at all.
At some point, the conversation becomes so meaningless that it breaks down utterly. Why don't you ask yourself how you would view what is going on in our government if it was a different government doing it?
Try some impartiality for breakfast. It tastes great!
Cycloptichorn
Cycloptichorn wrote:Oh, so you don't believe that our current admin has lied at all.
Cycloptichorn
Don't know for sure. Waiting on proof or admission that they have.
Innocent until proven guilty, you know, is the way of our Republic.
Was Iraq innocent until proven guilty?
Somehow I don't think we adopted the same approach. Isn't it a golden rule, do unto others as you would have them do unto you?
Would you like the rulers of other countries to treat the US the way we treated them, or even worse, Iraq? To decide we are guilty based upon unbelievably bad evidence, and then say that the lack of evidence doesn't matter?!?!!?
That's a serious question. I'd love to see what the answer is from people.
Cycloptichorn
Larry
Did you say proven. Do we need prove that Clinton's lies did not cause anyone's death. Except possibly some unfertilized sperm.
As for Bush he started a war that is killing thousands based on a stack of lies. If you are waiting for him to admit it you will have to wait till hell freezes over.
Cyclops, Correction: humans need only reply.
i have to wonder if all of the clinton haters considered themselves "unpatriotic" for supporting the gingrich neo-con efforts to bring down the president.
from day one...
These are the same people who argue that we can't wait for proof, because it might come in the form of another attack on America.
But when it comes to questioning whether or not we are doing the right thing? Why, we cannot even consider the possibility without MOUNTAINS of proof (which, by the way, exists) that they are lying, and even then, it doesn't mean anything unless they admit it...
It's the hypocracy the Republican party strains under these days. Why do you think the election is so close?
Cycloptichorn
Re: BBB
OCCOM BILL wrote:You may find it interesting that the only other son-of-a-Pres, John Quincy Adams, was even less popular.
Fascinating post, O'Bill, thanks.
Just could not resist.
How many members of the Bush Administration are needed to replace a
lightbulb?
The Answer is TEN:
1. one to deny that a lightbulb needs to be changed,
2. one to attack the patriotism of anyone who says the lightbulb
needs to be
changed,
3. one to blame Clinton for burning out the lightbulb,
4. one to tell the nations of the world that they are either for changing
the lightbulb or for darkness,
5. one to give a billion dollar no-bid contract to Halliburton for the new
lightbulb,
6. one to arrange a photograph of Bush, dressed as a janitor, standing on a
step ladder under the banner "Lightbulb Change Accomplished",
7. one administration insider to resign and write a book documenting in
detail how Bush was literally "in the dark",
8. one to viciously smear #7,
9. one surrogate to campaign on TV and at rallies on how George Bush has
had
a strong light-bulb-changing policy all along,
10. and finally one to confuse Americans about the difference between
screwing a lightbulb and screwing the country.
This is one of those few cases where reality is even more absurd than its parody.
In the version that's really happening, Bush is claiming that the lightbulb has done a magnificent job in the war on darkness over the last three years, never mind that it hasn't emitted any light for quite some time now. Anyway, continues Bush, Americans are now facing a clear choice: they can either vote for himself, a strong, determined leader who has the character to stay the course, and who will stand by the nation's old lightbulb without wavering or flinching. Or they can vote for this irresponsible windbag John Kerry, who voted for installing this lightbulb two years ago. But now he is flip-flopping in a time of domestic crisis and says he wants to change the lightbulb. He is even on record as saying -- get this! -- "I actually voted for the lightbulb before I voted against it. " Clearly this Kerry guy cannot be trusted to win the global war on darkness.
meself, being a dim bulb, continue to advocate for new and improved darkness. I was once blinded by the light.
Good point Dyslexia -- who outside of Massachussetts wants light anyway?
Dys
dyslexia wrote:meself, being a dim bulb, continue to advocate for new and improved darkness. I was once blinded by the light.
Oh my gawd, I forgot to remind Diane to screw in Dys again.
BBB
and after a couple of years of exaustive investigation and sacrifice, to have it announced that the intelligence used to determine that the lightbulb was burned out was faulty and that there was actually no threat of darkness posed by the bulb.
although one or two janitors continue to claim that it was.
DTOM, The unfortunate result of those few janitors who continue to claim "no threat of darkness," about half of the other light bulbs in this country have gone dead.
oh, welllll. that's what makes a horse race.